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Voted : I don't know
I really don't understand why.
Voted : US support of Israel
"Death to America, death to Israel." Yadda yadda yadda.
I think all of the above and the straw that broke camels back was US troops in Saudi Arabia.
That's my opinion for their feelings for what it's worth.
1. US support of the state of Israel. 2. US support of repressive states such as Kuwait and occasionally Iran or Iraq.
Im not trying to justify what they did and I dont think that there are simple solutions to the problem of tyrants and land grabbers everywhere but this to my best knowledge were there basic reasons for attacking when they did and how they did.
^Not that I'm saying it justifies
911, just answering your question.
sorry blue, we must have been typing at same time.
Yes relief, it is very important to not get hysterical even in these desperate times. To say we were attacked because "they hate us" or "they hate our freedoms" is simply childish. We have to start facing up to the realities of the situation.
I am all in favour of many of the decisions President Bush has made and I am proud to have served my country but we have to fight intelligently as well as resolutly.
Domestic terrorists were responsible for 9/11, PNAC's New Pearl Harbor, will you OCT tin foil hat wearing clowns will ever open your eyes to that fact?
MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job
Attack Was 'Coup de'tat,' Buildings Were Demolished By Controlled Demolitions
Former MI5 agent David Shayler, who previously blew the whistle on the British government paying Al Qaeda $200,000 to carry out political assassinations, has gone on the record with his conviction that 9/11 was an inside job meant to bring about a permanent state of emergency in America and pave the way for the invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and ultimately Iran and Syria.
David Shayler joined MI5 in October 1991 and worked there for five years. He started at F Branch (counter-subversion) in January 1992, and worked in T Branch (Irish terrorism) from August 1992 until October 1994. He left the organization in 1996.
Shayler delved into his past investigations and the evidence that led some within MI5 to conclude that the Israelis bombed their own London embassy in July 1994. Shayler said that the Israelis framed two Palestinians who remain in jail to this day.
"The same thing has happened with two Palestinians who were convicted of conspiracy to cause the attack on the Israeli Embassy in Britain in 1994 but MI5 didn't disclose two documents which indicated their innocence. One document indicated another group had carried out the attack and the other document was the belief of an MI5 officer that the Israelis had actually bombed their own embassy and allowed a controlled explosion to try and get better security and these documents were never shown to the trial judge let alone the defense."
Shayler said that his suspicions were first aroused about 9/11 when the usual route of crime scene investigation was impeded when the debris was immediately seized and shipped off to China.
"It is in fact a criminal offence to interfere with a crime scene and yet in the case of 9/11 all the metal from the buildings is shipped out to China, there was no forensics done on that metal. Now that to me suggests they never wanted anybody to look at that metal because it was not going to provide the evidence they wanted to show people that it was Al-Qaeda."
Shayler then went on to dismiss the incompetence theory.
"The more I look at it, you realize that it's not incompetence. There were FBI officers all over the country, Colleen Rowley is obviously the one who managed to get a congressional hearing, but there was plenty of evidence certainly."
"There are so many questions that need to be answered, protocols being overridden within national defense, people actively being stopped from carrying out investigations. This wasn't an accident, they were aware there was intelligence indicating those kind of attacks, there were FBI intercepts saying it in the days before the attacks. When you look at it all, that is a big big intelligence picture and yet these people were crucially stopped from doing their jobs, stopped from trying to protect the American people."
Shayler elaborated by saying the evidence suggests the attack was originally meant to be much wider in scope and was an attempt at a violent coup intended to decapitate the entire government as a pretext for martial law.
"So you're looking at a situation in which you almost have a coup de'tat because you've got to bear in mind that there were weapons discovered on planes that didn't take off on 9/11. Now people have obviously postulated that they were going perhaps to attack the White House, Capitol Hill. That looks to me like an attempt to destroy American government and declare a state of emergency, in fact a coup de'tat, a violent coup de'tat."
"There are so very many questions about this and you realize again that none of the enquiries ever get to the bottom of any of these things, they don't take all the evidence, they don't often take any evidence under oath when they should be taking it under oath."
Shayler was forthright in his assertion that the attack was planned and executed within the jurisdiction of the military-industrial complex.
"They let it happen, they made it happen to create a trigger to be able to allow the invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq and of course what they're trying to do now is the same thing with the invasion of Iran and Syria."
Shayler ended by questioning the highly suspicious nature of the collapse of the twin towers and Building 7, the first buildings in history, all in the same day, to collapse from so-called fire damage alone.
"I've seen the results of terroristic explosions and so on and no terrorist explosion has ever brought down a building. When the IRA put something like a thousands tonnes of home-made explosives in front of the Baltic Exchange building in Bishopsgate and let off the bomb, all the glass came out, the building shook a bit but there was no question about the building falling down and it doesn't obey the laws of physics for buildings to fall down in the way the World Trade Center came down. So you have the comparison of the two, Building 7 compared with the north and south towers coming down and those two things are exactly the same, they were demolished."
David Shayler joins a spate of recent credible whistleblowers who share the same sentiments about the real story behind 9/11. Former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds publicly questioned the unexplained collapse of WTC Building 7 earlier this month. In addition, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Reagan, Paul Craig Roberts, shared his concerns last week when he said the Bush Administration were making the same mistakes as the Nazis when they invaded Russia in the dead of Winter. Roberts seriously doubts the official explanation behind 9/11.
"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
--Hermann Goering, Nazi leader and architect of the Reichstag fire, World War two's 9/11
Oh for **** sake Ken I think we all have a pretty good idea what you think by now. Please try to say something original.
I'm waiting for the silly neocon paperpusher above to post something original.
They hate us because we are not muslims. They are directed by their 'religion' to kill all infidels.
^Be nice, Lovelynice.
Do you have your own opinion ken?
Yeah, and millions agree with it.
Inside job - deal with it. ;o)
IMO, it all comes down to the fact that the world perceives us as being filthy-rich, arrogant as all hell and wanting more. Well, consider who we send to represent us abroad. Most of our ambassadors are millionaires, most of the people in the Bush White house are, and most of those who back the Admin are. Money and power. Who has it, and who doesn't.
Conspiracy theories aside, the terrorists were all Islamic extremists who believed that they were martyring themselves for their religion; that the U.S. was the "Great Satan"; that they were doing it for God and their country; and that they were going straight to paradise as a reward for their deeds.
Heck, if I believed all that stuff, I'd have been on the plane with them.
Because we invaded their country. Well, they were from saudi arabia, yemen, syria, etc. No nations that we had ever attacked.
Well it was because they were poor. No, most were quite wealthy.
Because they were ignorant, well most had a decent education.
Hmm. I guess it was because they hate all non-muslims and the US is the single largest example of free western civilization out there. Notice they also attack lesser western nations, they just aren't as adament about it because well, it's not such a big deal if the netherlands get bombed.
They would have been the Muslim equivalent of American neocons, except that those guys had the courage to do their own fighting, unlike cowardly neocons who sit in front of their computer terminals, drinking Diet Coke and eating Cheetos, promoting wars that they would never, ever even consider actually fighting in.
"They hate all non-Muslims..." (herzog)
You foolish boy.
ramaDUNG- What makes you believe that they don't hate all non-Muslims?
Remember we are talking specifically about the terrorists who launched the 9/11 attacks. We are not talking about terrorism in general- specifically that small group of people.
Ken_from_Dublin - As to the conspiracy theories: First, I don't know what evidence could be found from the metal. And even if there was an investigation, which there could have been, conspiracy theorists would probably just argue that they were in on it too.
Next, Building 7? I'm not too certain about that one. I haven't looked into it. But, I do not find it unbelievable that in the circumstances, that building and other suffered some damage.
And the way the towers fell? I saw a documentary explaining why they did collapse the way they did. It had to do with the unique architectual design of the infrastructure of the levels/floors and the specific weak spots. Unless, the documentary makers of that show, the architects, the scientists commenting were somehow all in on it as well? That's a bit of a stretch, isn't it?
The 'official version' I've heard is that it was in retaliation for the long- standing 'desecration of holy saudi Arabian soil with the presence of infidelic Western military bases.
The 'hate all non-Muslim' thing has been used to exacerbate the problem, it was not a causal factor.
But various people want conflcit and this trope helps them accomplish this. everyone who salivates with hatred at this Pavlovian manipulation is doing exactly what they want.
They are Islam that says it all.
Truthseeker...When was it a crime to be a millionaire. Why does success need to be punished. Is it our countrys fault that they dont want to embrace democracy and capitalism. Cliton was filthy rich also.
And so was Reagan. Why do you Blame Bush for everything.
Ken from Dublin has been drinking to much potato soup and drinking to much home made beer. He is a legend in his own mind.
hurricane- I don't think the fact that they were Muslim says it all. Most Muslims do not approve of what happened on 9/11, don't they?
Cathexis - so the issue is US military bases on Saudi Arabian land, of which the Saudian Arabian government requested? That seems like a very very small thing, why would they have made make such a big deal over that?
'Truthseeker...When was it a crime to be a millionaire. Why does success need to be punished. Is it our countrys fault that they dont want to embrace democracy and capitalism. Cliton was filthy rich also.
And so was Reagan. Why do you Blame Bush for everything'
Tell me, how has the USA encouraged freedom and democracy in the middle East? Barring current attempts in Iraq and Afghanistan, which most in the region see merely as an effort to install pro US govts that will tow the line, how has propping up brutal totalitarian regimes in Saudi Arabia, Iran (prior to '79) and Iraq encouraged democracy, let alone ignoring the horrific plight of ordinary palestinians. The West exploited the middle East for 100 years and contiues to do so. That does not mean that the terrorists are justified, but to merely say that they do what they do because they hate our freedom is naive. I'm sure there are those for whom that is true but this is not true of the majority of muslems who resent the west.
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