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CEMETERY TO BURY ALL, CHRISTIANS TOO, FACING MECCA

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CEMETERY TO BURY ALL, CHRISTIANS TOO, FACING MECCA


[+] ballot by herzog
created Mon Sep 25, 06

Robin Hood must be spinning in his grave.

A new, $4.7 million cemetery in Nottingham is the first public graveyard in the UK to have all its burial plots aligned with Mecca and to inter those of all faiths in the Muslim tradition.

All headstones at the 40-acre burial site will face northeast, enabling the dead to look over their shoulder toward Mecca, the manner prescribed for followers of Islam in the UK.

Church leaders have criticized the decision by local officials, saying that imposing a Muslim model on Christians, who traditionally are buried facing east, is discriminatory.

"This is a sensitive issue to all people. I hope the situation will be reviewed with wide consultation and a policy introduced that takes account of the needs of all," the Rt. Rev. George Cassidy, bishop of Southwell and Nottingham, told the London Daily Mail.



WND Cemetery to bury all, Christians too, facing Mecca
Headstones aligned toward northeast so dead can look toward Islamic holy city
Posted: September 24, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Robin Hood must be spinning in his grave.

A new, $4.7 million cemetery in Nottingham is the first public graveyard in the UK to have all its burial plots aligned with Mecca and to inter those of all faiths in the Muslim tradition.

All headstones at the 40-acre burial site will face northeast, enabling the dead to look over their shoulder toward Mecca, the manner prescribed for followers of Islam in the UK.

Church leaders have criticized the decision by local officials, saying that imposing a Muslim model on Christians, who traditionally are buried facing east, is discriminatory.

"This is a sensitive issue to all people. I hope the situation will be reviewed with wide consultation and a policy introduced that takes account of the needs of all," the Rt. Rev. George Cassidy, bishop of Southwell and Nottingham, told the London Daily Mail.

(Story continues below)

Steve Dowling, the official with the Nottingham city council, said that he met with the city's Cemeteries Consultative Committee, a multi-faith group, before deciding on the Islamic burial plan. He made his decision, in part, on esthetics and the need for symmetry.

"For people of the Muslim faith this fits in with a religious requirement, but it will also ensure a tidy appearance for the site," he said. "People can choose to be buried facing another direction but if they do not specify that, they will be buried facing northeast. The vast majority of people do not express a preference."

Nigel Lymn Rose, past president of the National Association of Funeral Directors, said he had been surprised when he asked Dowling if the new cemetery had made accommodations for Muslims and Dowling answered, "Oh yes, we're burying everyone so they are aligned to Mecca. It will make things easier."

"It's one thing to be buried facing northeast because that is the way the cemetery lies, or the plot within it – it is quite another thing to learn that you have been buried facing that direction because it follows Islamic law," said Rose.

Even Raza Ul Haq, imam at the Madni Masjid Mosque, is bewildered by the decision.

"It is part of our religion for the dead to be aligned with Mecca. It is very important. But for Christians, if they want to face somewhere else we support them," he said.

Muslims make up less than five per cent of the Nottingham region's 500,000 population.

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Does this seem a little bizarre to you?

Yes, that is very odd
No, seems perfectly normal to me
Does it matter?
Yes, it's pandering to Islam


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COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes, that is very odd
More than a little.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Mon Sep 25, 06 4:38pm [+]

Voted : Does it matter?
We are all worm food in the end.
by Steelhamster on Mon Sep 25, 06 4:48pm [+]

Voted : Does it matter?
I don't care what happens after I'm dead.
by skylab on Mon Sep 25, 06 4:48pm [+]

Voted : Does it matter?
I don't the dead mind.
by margaret123 on Mon Sep 25, 06 4:58pm [+]

Well! I don't think the dead mind. This was my comment before the cyber demons twisted it.
by margaret123 on Mon Sep 25, 06 4:59pm [+]

I didn't ask if the dead minded. I asked if the practice of burying everyone according to a minorities religious beliefs was odd, or normal.
by herzog on Mon Sep 25, 06 5:54pm [+]

I just dont believe its important, hence my answer
by Steelhamster on Mon Sep 25, 06 6:24pm [+]

Voted : Yes, that is very odd
Wouldn't the cemetery be digging it's own grave, so to speak? Meaning that plot sales could plummet.
by MO_ on Mon Sep 25, 06 6:24pm [+]

"All headstones at the 40-acre burial site will face northeast, enabling the dead to look over their shoulder toward Mecca, the manner prescribed for followers of Islam in the UK."

Won't that give them stiff necks?
by Bostonian on Mon Sep 25, 06 6:42pm [+]

Voted : No, seems perfectly normal to me
If you don't want your loved one buried there, find another burial plot. Myself, I plan on having my ashes placed in a nave facing west, just to thumb my nose at the rest of the dead. Still, doesn't matter what any of us think on the matter. When you all get up there, you'll be mderately surprised to see that there's only one Deity, with a very long nameplate on Its Desk.
by Truthseeker013 on Mon Sep 25, 06 6:54pm [+]

Voted : Yes, that is very odd
It seems strange to make a majority belief conform to a minority belief.

In my point of view the cemetery would just be better divided into sections catering to different desires. A Muslim section that faces Mecca could be done. A Chinese section that uses the traditional shrines. And a Christian section that faces east. And etc.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Sep 25, 06 9:31pm [+]

^ To all the insensitives above

Burying the dead has more to do with the people left behind than it does the person who died. The people left behind- loved ones, family of the dead, may feel strongly about what is the right way to pay tribute to the one they loved. Their emotions, even if somewhat overly sentimental, need to be considered.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Sep 25, 06 9:33pm [+]

Mr. Herzog: "Odd or normal"? Actually, you asked if it seemed "a little bizarre." I don't know what "normal" is for planting folks. I suppose if you deviate from the standard practice you could be odd or bizarre. My comment was merely to express that it seemed fairly silly to care.
by margaret123 on Mon Sep 25, 06 11:45pm [+]

margaret123- even if it is silly that family members of the dead care, the fact is that nonetheless that they care. If a small request of which direction it is to face will give them a little bit more peace of mind, I see no problem with fulfilling that, even if it does seem silly. For that reason, cemeteries should have different sections, in which there are different areas customed to different religious beliefs.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Sep 26, 06 1:16am [+]

Does it matter? Personally not to me.

But to some traditionalist Muslims and Christians, they may indeed care. And they should be allowed to care, and cemeteries should cater to both.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Sep 26, 06 1:19am [+]

Voted : Does it matter?
Let's see ... standardizing a practice because:

* It is important to one group, and
* It is a non-issue for all other groups.

IMO, one would have to be looking for something to whine about to get ones' panties in a bunch over this.
by Cathexis on Tue Sep 26, 06 7:22am [+]

Geez, herz, if it bothers you so much, have them bury you backwards with no pants so your backside is facing Mecca.
by Cathexis on Tue Sep 26, 06 7:24am [+]

Cathexis- "* It is important to one group, and
* It is a non-issue for all other groups"

- It says in the article that Christians prefer to have theirs face east. I've never heard about it... but apparently that's what that article said. Not sure myself. The article also said that Muslim leaders would like Christians to be buried the way that Christians would like as well. It is clear that both Muslims and Christians would like the other to be able to their burials in the manner that they like. There is no conflict. It is just a mere issue of this cemetery learning to cater to more than one set of tradition. Most cemeteries that have already adapted to multiculturalism, and provide different sections inside them- Muslim section, Christian section, a specific Catholic section in many cases, Jewish, Chinese, etc.

I don't think the issue in this article was to make Muslims or Christians look bad. Both sides showed interest in the feelings of the other. The issue is merely that of cemeteries needing to adapt to multiculturalism so as to satisfy all groups- as has been done successfully in many other places that have longer been accustomed to multiculturalism.
by xxxxxxxx on Tue Sep 26, 06 8:22am [+]

What cath means is that it's an issue to a protected minority group and only opposed by evil white christians, so they can be ignored. That's a pretty standard line of reasoning.

Imagine if they were to bury everyone facing east, even muslims, that would not be a 'who cares' type of question, the usual suspects would be up in arms about how this is unfair and discrinatory. It's just the usual rhetoric from the left.
by herzog on Tue Sep 26, 06 3:28pm [+]






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