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COMMENTS:
It's a crime issue.
Voted : There are legit reasons to scrutinize who we do and do not let in
Execute the bastard
Voted : There are legit reasons to scrutinize who we do and do not let in
Too many Mexicans** choose to enter our country by sneaking in and NOT going through all the inconvenient paperwork and hoop-jumping to either live/work here legally or become citizens.
Some Mexicans are fine, hardworking people who value family life, some come for the free medical care and welfare benefits, some are carrying on their drug trafficking, some just want a chance at a better life, some are scuzball criminals, some want their babies born here just to claim a citizenship (a law I would do away with!), and so on.
Absolutely, we need to know about people who leave their home country to come to the U.S. Is it for vacation? Do they have relatives here? How long will they stay? Will they be working here? Are they criminals seeking to avoid apprehension? Do they have violent criminal histories? Are they terrorists? Are they infected with virulent diseases? etcetcetc
It wouldn't matter to me if it was **Norwegians or Chinese or Africans who were our immediate neighbors. In my opinion, it is the motives and the behaviors of the foreigners that count. In other words, "Who are you and why are you here?" Very simple.
I'm all for increased border security. I have always maintained, and continue to maintain that this is something we should have started focusing on on September 12th, 2001.
*tick-tock *tick-tock *tick-tock...
Is racism the only reason? No.
Is it one of the most common, hidden reasons? Yes.
BTW, taking one anecdotal story and generalizing it to an entire group is mentally sloppy.
Or are you seriously suggesting that all us caucasions are serial- killer cannibals?
^ Whats anecdotal about properly reported news? If the news is anecdotal then what isnt? and how are you supposed to find out the facts on, say, violent crime? Go hand around a dark street in downtown Compton and see if you get murdered or not?
Also, the term caucasian refers to RACE, whereas Mexican (if we assume that was the nationality of the immigrant in question) is a geographical/nationality term. Your comparative example is flawed in that respect.
hand = *hang*
Would the individuals who voted for the first option do me the favour of revealing their identity please?
I need to make sure I avoid having any form of communication with you in future.
Thanking you in advance.
What Cathexis is saying is that, from a purely statistical and sociological standpoint, one would never base their conclusions about a large group of individuals based on the actions of a single individual. It's inaccurate.
When people take polls countrywide (U.S.), for example, they don't poll one person, or a dozen, or even a hundred -- they poll a thousand or more and determine the margin of error. The more people polled, the smaller the margin of error.
(I'm not even referring to this specific case, since Herzog isn't implying that illegal immigrants tend to shoot people more than other groups. Nervertheless, I could find hundreds upon hundreds of similar incidents involving caucasian males and then falsely conclude that caucasian males tend to be violent murderers.)
People do this all the time with the media. Of course, I'm basing THAT assumption on my own experience, so I understand that what I just said is a generalization.
CATHEXIS!!
Here you go, again. First, it was not the first Houston Police Officer killed by an illegal immigrant. Almost daily, an illegal immigrant is involved in crime in or near Houston. (Look at archived issues of THE HOUSTON CHRONICLE.)
Oftentimes the crime is brutal - killing, raping - and often the illegal immigrant runs from the scene.
How do I know this? I am currently living near Houston, Texas, and have friends there including a Harris County Deputy Sheriff.
Voted : There are legit reasons to scrutinize who we do and do not let in
Interesting ballot. You have showed me a new side of logic towards this situation.
Voted : STOP this illegal immigration!
I'm afraid we will only learn when it's too late.
Cath: you believe the 'most common reason" for not wanting to allow in everyone without a single background check, in the midst of a war on terror, is racism? The majority do not follow the perfectly legitimate reasons of national security and crime prevention?
And the point is this guy would have never been here to kill americans if border patrol had done their job. You do not have a right to cross our border at will and murder americans. And if you think this is the first and only case of this, well send me your address and I'll buy you a subscription to some newspaper because you are obviously out of the loop.
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