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COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes
I would forgive them. Not pardon them, not set them free. Just forgive them. Forgiveness is not for the forgiven, it is for ourselves. By forgiving, we free ourselves from the burden of damaging emotions and chains of the past.
For me, forgiveness requires repentence. If they were truly repentent ... perhaps. But I doubt that would be the case.
I think when anyone takes human life, they have a lot to answer for, after all of the rationalizations have been stripped away.
Anyone.
If like Cathexis said they are repentent, I have forgiven someone that killed, it's a lot better than hating.
Voted : NEVER
So, I'm a mean bastich. Tell me something I don't *already* know.
Voted : NEVER
I'm not mature enough. So sue me.
Voted : NEVER
Never.
Voted : Yes
Forgive? Yes. Forget? Never.
^True never forget and I'm not saying person should go unpunished.
No. They were despicable people and if there is a hell I certainly hope they are rotting there now.
You can forgive, perhaps, a cheating wife, or a neighbor that accidently runs over your cat, but someone who intentionally murdered 3000 of your countrymen simply because they didn't approve of their religion? No.
Nine of the alleged "hijackers" are alive, so what makes you think that any of the alleged "hijackers" were on those planes?
No
it's not up to me to forgive them, and even it were, i'm not sure i could. there is a very cold place in my heart regarding some things - it is not anger or hatred or any such negative emotion. but it is cold and hard and indifferent and pitiless. if we were still a society that banished wrong-doers - it would be that part of me that turned my back on them as though they were non-existent (provided of course they had been rendered harmless).
besides - what good is my forgiveness to them - we must all bear the burden and answer for our own crimes, regardless of what others forgive or do not forgive.
Tank girl.. if they are alive where are they????? I would like to know how they survived the plane crash. Good trick to know when I fly.
YES, NINE OF THE HIJACKERS ARE STILL ALIVE - as most people should know by now (and I can hardly believe that you don't) they were vicitms of IDENTITY THEFT
Tracking the 19 Hijackers. What are they up to now? At least 9 of them survived 9/11
welfarestate . com / 911 /
Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
news . bbc . co . uk / 1 / hi / world / middle _ east / 1559151 . stm
'Suicide hijacker' is an airline pilot alive and well in Jeddah
news . independent . co . uk / world / middle _ east / story . jsp ? story = 94438
FBI probes hijackers' identities
news . bbc . co . uk / 1 / hi / world / americas / 1553754 . stm
QUOTE= "The FBI has said that the identities of some of its list of 19 hijackers behind last week's devastating attacks are in doubt.
It believes that some of the hijackers used false identities, possibly even names of people who are still alive,"
which means that you have no evidence of any of the hijackers being Arabs, nor that there were any hijackers at all
hurricane
Don't encourage these people.
I would like to point out that ALL of lovelynice's sources are from the confusion of the weeks after 9-11 (e.g. "behind last week's devastating attacks") check it out for yourselves.
Right now, today, there is no confusion and we know FOR SURE who the hijackers were.
It's ONLY the conspiracy theorists who are quibbling over this - using 5 year old news sources.
It's a fact that NOBODY has ever successfully simulated the collapses of WTC 1, 2, & 7 without considering controlled demolition, and that means NOBODY. Not NIST, not, NOVA, Dr Eagar, FEMA, MIT, Bazant & Zhou, nor Dr Frank Green, nor anyone else. NOBODY has succeeded; those who have claimed to have done so, have ALWAYS been proven to be LIARS when their mathematical formula were checked.
Until you idiots can cite a link, source, and quote from SOMEBODY, ANYBODY, whose mathematical simulation or computer simulation based on the EMPIRICAL DATA (without distortion, deviation, or bullshit fictions) that can PROVE that there was enough energy for a gravity-driven collapse, YOU HAVE NOTHING!
Oh dear. When you show up one piece of "evidence" for the hollow sham that it is another one leaps up to take its place.
The fact that nobody has made a mathematical model is irrelevant. Nobody (including the conspiracy theorists) has all the necessary data to construct such a model. Why? Because we don't actually know the PRECISE extent of the damage done to the towers by the plane impacts. This is now being modelled by researchers at Purdue University (a model which conspiracy theorists have dismissed without even understanding).
Models actually prove nothing - especially when key data has to be assumed. Conspiracy Theorists will NEVER accept ANY mathematical model of the collapses for this very reason.
Meanwhile we are all left wondering when anyone is going to show us one piece of solid, physical evidence that backs up any of their claims.
And before anyone copy and pastes some irrelevant stuff the following things are NOT solid physical evidence:
1) Eyewitness testimony
2) Speculation over video footage
3) Anomalies you can't explain or don't accept the official explanation for.
4) Distorted or cherry-picked versions of the events.
These ARE acceptable examples of solid, physical evidence:
1) DNA identified remains of victims
2) Pieces of aircraft
3) Personal items belonging to victims
4) Flight recorders
5) Physical traces of a controlled demolition
6) Fragments of a missle or aircraft
We'll wait.
Voted : At least half of them are still alive -FACT! ;o)
This is one of those (many) things which you silly shills are avoiding;
EVERY OTHER OCCASSION both before and since Sept 11 2001, when STEEL-FRAMED tower buildings collapsed down at near free fall speed into their footprint, it has been due to a controlled demolition.
Can any of you cite a single exception to this?
With a photo, video, or anything else.
and I'll repeat this nice and big since you seem to have problems reading it NO MENTION OF THE WORD "FIRE", YOU'RE IMAGINING IT!
Now please hurry and respond with some FACTS to back your bullshit!
Here's another one for you;
WTC1
AA Flt 11
8:46:40 UTC - FAA last primary radar contact
8:46:30 UTC - seismic event/NIST
Both times are real and accurate
QUESTION- What caused the 8:46:30 seismic event?
(It can not be the aircrash since that happened at 8:46:40)
Now, please don't start in here with any long-winded arguments; logically, because your beloved NIST embraced the 2005 revision of the seismic time by Dr. Kim (which infers UTC), the only way you win is you MUST discredit the 8:46:40 last primary radar contact that occurred (and no radar "sweep/refresh problem" exists as the contact was recorded (it's the last little triangle in the graph in the flight path study; it's all in the paper)).
Ginny Carr audiotape has a ~9.2 second gap between initial explosion and aircrash.
The 9/11 Commission avoided the time of the initial seismic event.
The 9/11 Commission avoided the many witnesses who testified of explosions in the basements.
NIST avoided the 9/11 Commission’s time.
NIST avoided the many witnesses who testified of explosions in the basements.
ANSWER- The only possibility: EXPLOSION(S)
Meanwhile we are all left wondering when anyone is going to show us one piece of solid, physical evidence that backs up any of their claims.
And before anyone copy and pastes some irrelevant stuff the following things are NOT solid physical evidence:
1) Eyewitness testimony
2) Speculation over video footage
3) Anomalies you can't explain or don't accept the official explanation for.
4) Distorted or cherry-picked versions of the events.
These ARE acceptable examples of solid, physical evidence:
1) DNA identified remains of victims
2) Pieces of aircraft
3) Personal items belonging to victims
4) Flight recorders
5) Physical traces of a controlled demolition
6) Fragments of a missle or aircraft
We'll wait.
Voted : Yes
But only of they told us truthfully everything we asked them about 9/11, Bin Laden, the Taliban, Al Qaida, Sadam Hussein, weapons of mass destruction, and anything else of concern.
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