WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NUCLEAR THREAT NOW POSED BY NORTH KOREA?

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WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NUCLEAR THREAT NOW POSED BY NORTH KOREA?


[+] serious ballot by margaret123
created Wed Oct 11, 06

The North Korean nuclear test was barely over when the "blame game" started. Democrats and Republicans blamed each other for "appeasement" and "neglect" in dealing with North Korea. Following is a chronology of how several U.S. Administrations have dealt with North Korea. Look this time line over, and let us know who you think is MOST responsible for the current nuclear crisis in the Korean Penisula.

PRESIDENT REAGAN
Mid-1980s: First signs of North Korea nuclear program detected by US intelligence.

1986: North Korea produces plutonium in reactor.

PRESIDENT GEORGE H. W. BUSH
1991: US begins talks with North Korea to end to nuclear program.

1992: North Korea has separated an estimated 0-10kg of weapons-grade plutonium, enough for 1 to 2 bombs.

PRESIDENT CLINTON
1993: North Korea announces it will leave nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; US prepares to attack nuclear sites.

1994: Clinton Administration reaches Agreed Framework, North Korea freezes nuclear production for the next eight years.

August 1998: North Korea tests medium-range “Taep’o-dong-1″ missile.

December 1998: North Korea warns they will test another missile, but pressure from US dissuades them.

September 1999: Pyongyang agrees to long-range missile moratorium.

October 2000: Secretary of State Madeleine Albright is highest ranking US official to ever meet with Kim Jong Il.

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH
March 6, 2001: Secretary of State Colin Powell says the administration will “pick up where President Clinton left off.”

March 7, 2001: President Bush undercuts Powell, declares negotiations will take on a different tone.

January 2002: Bush labels North Korea a member of the “Axis of Evil.”

March 2003: United States invades Iraq.

April 2003: North Korea withdraws from the Non-Proliferation Treaty; soon thereafter, they restart their reactor.

April 2005: North Korea appears to unload nuclear reactor with up to another 15 kg of weapons-grade plutonium.

September 19, 2005: In six-party talks North Korea agrees to abandon its nuclear program in exchange for incentives package.

September 19, 2005: US labels bank that provides financial support for North Korean Government Agencies as “money laundering concern.” Bank freezes North Korean assets; causes collapse of September 2005 agreement.

June 2006: North Korea is believed to have now produced enough plutonium for 4 to 13 nuclear bombs.

July 2006: North Korea tests missiles: one medium-range and five short-range. Medium-range “Taep’o-dong-2 fails.

October 3, 2006: Kim Jong Il announces North Korea plans to test nuclear weapons.

October 4, 2006: North Korea asserts that nuclear test is a measure to “bolstering its nuclear deterrent as a self-defense measure.”

October 10, 2006: North Korea announces a successful test of a nuclear bomb.

They are all equally responsible
The Bush Administration is most responsible
GWB's father is most responsible
Ronald Reagan is most responsible
Bill Clinton is most responsible
North Korea is responsible for their own actions
Robert Oppenheimer


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COMMENTS:
Most of the development happened on George WMD Bush's watch, so rightly, he deserves the majority of the blame.
by cranky on Wed Oct 11, 06 11:51am [+]

Development, including research and development, began a long time ago.
by Black_Lava on Wed Oct 11, 06 12:14pm [+]

NK's programs were most overtly active in the past few years. Prior to that, diplomatic efforts were addressing the situation.

My synopsis:

1. NK started the program.
2. US diplomacy averted the situation.
3. Ham-handed cowboy-ism screwed up #2.
4. NK restarts the program
by Cathexis on Wed Oct 11, 06 12:27pm [+]

Voted : North Korea is responsible for their own actions
What is it with people that when a country does something reprehensible, that the United States is automatically to blame?

Is the woman who was raped "asking for it"? Or was it slumsh*t asshole who raped her that is to blame?

This is quite frankly asinine - the premise of this ballot and that of some the users that are commenting. A country is responsible for their OWN actions. No one MAKES them do anything! They alone are responsible.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Oct 11, 06 1:14pm [+]

" 1. NK started the program.
2. US diplomacy averted the situation.
3. Ham-handed cowboy-ism screwed up #2.
4. NK restarts the program

Yeah sure. I am quite sure that North Korea stopped doing research. You are quite the naive one in respect to North Korea and with Iran. To think that a Stalinist dictatorship is going to respond rationally and not try to cheat is rubbish.

OK... here is an ad hominem attack on you. Stop reading all the leftie peace blogs and read some of the defense strategy sites, foreign policy sites, and magazines and journals they publish. Perhaps then you will get over your naivete.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Oct 11, 06 1:20pm [+]

Voted : Robert Oppenheimer
"I have become death, destroyer of worlds"
by Steelhamster on Wed Oct 11, 06 1:24pm [+]

Good point steel.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Oct 11, 06 2:43pm [+]

NK is of course to blame for it's own actions.

Naturally most people will vote for bush, some people have lost it and feel everything is bushs fault. If you were to put up a ballot asking who was most responsible for the holocaust or the black plague bush would win.

After North Korea I'd say the so called international community in the form of the UN is responsible. For the blame to lie primarily on an american president would suggest that it is americas responsibility to police the world, and it isn't. The UN on the other hand does have that responsibility listed in their charter, and again they have failed to even attempt to live up to their obligations.
by herzog on Wed Oct 11, 06 3:34pm [+]






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