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PNAC will fail miserably. Before they do though, they will see this country beaten into submission by a world fed up with conflict. Ask people around the globe and they'll tell you that after the Cold War, people expected relative peace. The USA, under Bush, have done nothig but destablize the world through armed agression. One more false move on our part and the rest of the world will put us in our place. How? Easy. They will no longer invest in the USA. They will no longer watch our movies, listen to our music, drink our Coca-Cola, buy our jeans. Things like that.
These Neocons are ignorant. They come from the working class. Ignorant of the true agenda of Republicans like Bush, Cheney and PNAC, they follow blindly, not realizing that they have the most to lose. They sadly think men like Bush and Cheney care about what they really think. They do not. To them, these Neocons are laughingstocks that serve their purpose. Amazing they don't see it.
I've heard no one advocating "perpetual war" by the United States. This idea is clearly not mainstream, and seems dubious at best. Could the U.S. support perpetual war? If we seized the natural resources of each country we defeated and used the profits from that to fund continued war, then maybe we could. However, no one has the stomach for this, and Americans have shown themselves unwilling to support protracted conflicts. So, your ideas here seem pretty, well, cranky.
Voted : No, the U.S. doesn't have the resources to sustain the neocons "perpetual war"
I have never pushed for a war against any.
What I want is sanctioning on Iran and North Korea. I honestly don't know what to do about Sudan. Syria I'm not as worried about, yet. Syria is a state supporter of terrorism, but they have not been blatantly violating international agreements like the other three yet.
However, no one has the stomach for this, and Americans have shown themselves unwilling to support protracted conflicts. So, your ideas here seem pretty, well, cranky.
by margaret123 on Fri Oct 13, 06 8:13am
I suggest you go back to the Ballot about the U.S. government building prison camps on American soil. ballot #103165.
I urge you to visit this link as well. buzzflash. com / farrell /06 / 02 / far 06003 . html
It explains it all. How will the American people speak up against the PNAC initiated war, when protesting and civil disobedience will be a crime? They've thought of it ALL Margaret.
Its not a conspiracy theory. It is in fact, an actual conspiracy by men who believe that they can and should do anything possible to ensure America's dominance in the world. They know that Americans will speak up and out. How convenient they've already laid the ground work for "taking care" of those of us who would protest and speak up. Scary, but all true.
Voted : No, the U.S. doesn't have the resources to sustain the neocons "perpetual war"
Sure. And then we'll all get a pony! 
Why the hell are you rolling your eyes at my comment? You need to use that rolley eyes thing sparingly. Very often you give the wrong impression. Now clarify!!
Margaret:
Leo Strauss (a foundation of the neocon pilosophy) was also a strong believer in the "Realism" form of International Relations made prominent by Thomas Hobbes. Like Hobbes, he thought that human nature was intrinsically aggressive and could be restrained only through a State formed via a powerful military industrial complex . "Because mankind is intrinsically wicked, he has to be governed," he once wrote. "Such governance can only be established, however, when men are united - and they can only be united against other people."
"Strauss thinks that a political order can be stable only if it is united by an external threat," Drury wrote in her book. "Following Machiavelli, he maintains that if no external threat exists, then one has to be manufactured. This is what Henry Kissinger was referring to in that often quoted statement he made about creating external future threats in order to guard the world order he wishes to see become more prevalent and powerful, the system we often refer to as the "New World Order". Thus for the Neocons, when the Soviet Empire weakened and a Unipolar world order was emerging, a new threat had to be there lurking to allow them to further their Straussian vision.
"In Strauss' view, you have to fight all the time ," said Drury. "In that respect, it's very Spartan. Peace leads to decadence. Perpetual war, not perpetual peace, is what Straussians believe in." Such views naturally lead to an "aggressive, belligerent foreign policy", she added.
The BBC earlier this year aired a series of documentaries that went some way to explaining the rise of the Neocon movement out of Straussian Philosophy. It was entitled the Power of Nightmares and concluded that the War On Terror is a complete fraud and Al Qaeda is a largely manufactured threat as part of the agenda to scare people into accepting the Neocon vision of the New World Order.
Strauss was a German Jewish political philosopher whose views were elitist, amoral and hostile to representative democratic government. Strauss, as revealed in a major New Yorker article by legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh, believed the world to be a place where "isolated liberal democracies live in constant danger from hostile elements abroad", and where policy advisers may have to deceive their own publics and even their rulers in order to "protect" their countries. (infowars)
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Also, it is interesting to note, that Henry Kissinger has been making visits to the White House, as of late, to consult with the Bush Administration on foreign policy and Iraq.
Bush and the neocons would be ill-advised to publicly promote the concept of "perpetual war." It is, however, a fundamental principle upon which the neocon ideals are based, and if you read between the lines, the idea shows up in much of what Bush and neocons say and do.
The whole "War on Terror" IS a perpetual war. It's a war on something ill-defined, i.e. a concept, rather than a country. By Bush's admission, it will go on indefinitely, and there is no sure way to know when it is over or what victory even is, or even who we are fighting. The "War on Terror" does, however, justify just about any external military action, and any internal repression.
Voted : No, the U.S. doesn't have the resources to sustain the neocons "perpetual war"
No
WE CAN DO ANYTHING! Now lets go out and get ourselves killed!
{Its not a conspiracy theory. It is in fact, an actual conspiracy by men who believe that they can and should do anything possible to ensure America's dominance in the world...
by Beauregard on Fri Oct 13, 06 8:35am}
1- Exactly why it's so plausible that 9/11 waS done by this same group.
2- Also why their overconfidence and stupity is so clear to everyone else, because the USA is barely able to fight the war in Iraq, let alone try and take on anyone else at the same time.
3- These powerhungry maniacs are so out of touch with reality that they believe their own advertising about the power of the USA, and stick their heads in the ground when proven wrong REPEATEDLY.
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