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Similar question to ballot #94871
This is a question similar to questioning whether the allies in World War 2 were more immoral than the axis powers because the allies killed more people. You don't determine the morality (or justification) of a war based on the number of casualties. Should the US have not entered World War 2 because they knew they would likely inflict far more casualties on the enemy than they would take? Of course not. Was Nazi Germany wrong in their thinking of not worrying about number of people they killed while taking over most of Europe? Of course they were wrong.
If Britain were attacked and responded in a way that caused more casualties to the enemies than the ones the British would suffer, would they be wrong in fighting back or even seeking to topple the government of the country or organization that attacked them? Of course not.
There are a multitude of excellent reasons by which to criticise the war in Iraq. Trying to criticise it by "proportionality" is by far the weakest method. It then makes any war that a country engages in as automatically morally wrong even in the case of self-defense.
Come on keith. You can do better than this in criticising Iraq, Bush, Blair, etc. FAR better.
The U.S. occupiers won't even count the Iraqi dead, that's how little regard they have for their lives.
To a government, the lives of its citizens naturally take priority over those of other nations.
Having said that, there is a point where concern for ones citizens becomes reckless disregard for the lives of foreign citizens.
Fiddle conveniently forgets to make the important distinction between the casualties in the second world war and those of the Muslim world.. the vast majority of the former were SOLDIERS. A large percentage of the latters have been civilians.
Fiddle conveniently forgets to make the important distinction between the casualties in the second world war and those of the Muslim world.. the vast majority of the former were SOLDIERS. A large percentage of the latters have been civilians.
Good point accept you forget that this is a civilian war unlike any other war that in the last 200 years this war is being fought by Civilians quote so called insurgence they are not an army they are not under any country or government they are civilians that hate the western world and hates any one that is not radical Muslim so because of that you will have a greater number of civilian casualties also unlike any other war in the since Vietnam those that are so called insurgence they have no regards for the civilian population and feel that it would be better to destroy the Civilians than to let democracy take hold here or in any other middle east country. so because of all this you will find that they will kill their own father and mother if it means that they will make an impact on the soldiers that they are fighting so basically what it boils down to is they have not boundaries as to what they will do to wipe us out but we do care about the civilian population we have our hands tied in knots and then have to hear from everybody about how we do not care about the civilians and all other kinds of hateful attitudes because it is not going the way we want it to
I agree that it would be nice to get out of there but I do not see it happening real soon but when it does you watch they will organize a union and put someone like Syria in charge or A king over it all and it will be because we left
So as long as we are there it is keeping them unorganized which is what we want and the sad thing is the western world does not have the stomach to fight like the middle eastern people do see you have to keep in mind they have been in some kind of war or unrest over there for thousands of years
FiddleFaddle: apologies for very slow response, and you'll probably never see this, but I hope you will....
I'm not criticising the war for proportionality, I'm criticising the media, which seems constantly to be telling us how awful it is that another 5 US / UK soldiers have died (and it IS awful) and mentioning just in passing that another 200 or so Iraqis have been killed when few of them wanted this war.
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