ONE IN 10 INDONESIA MUSLIMS BACK VIOLENT JIHAD-POLL

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political : ONE IN 10 INDONESIA MUSLIMS BACK VIOLENT JIHAD-POLL

[+] serious ballot by herzog
created Mon Oct 16, 06
JAKARTA, Oct 15 (Reuters) - Around one in 10 Indonesian Muslims support jihad and justify bomb attacks on Indonesia's tourist island of Bali as defending the faith, a survey released on Sunday showed.

Indonesia is the world's fourth most populous country, with 220 million people, 85 percent of whom follow Islam, giving the Asian archipelago the largest Muslim population of any nation in the world.

"Jihad that has been understood partially and practised with violence is justified by around one in 10 Indonesian Muslims," the Indonesian Survey Institute said in a statement.

"They approved the bombings conducted ... in Bali with the excuse of defending Islam," it added, saying the percentage of such support "is very significant".

While the vast majority of Indonesia's Muslims are relatively moderate, there has been an increasingly vocal militant minority and political pressure for more laws that are in line with hardline Muslim teachings.

The poll surveyed a random sample of 1,092 Muslim men and women.

Bombings in Bali in October 2002 blamed on the militant Southeast Asian Jemaah Islamiah network killed 202 people, mostly foreign tourists. Suicide blasts in Bali a year ago killed 20.

The survey found one in five Indonesian Muslims more generally supported the aims of Jemaah Islamiah -- an armed movement backing the creation of an Islamic superstate linking Muslim Indonesia and Malaysia, and Muslim areas in the Philippines and Thailand.

In the past, it has cooperated closely with al Qaeda's global anti-Western campaign, but in recent years many in Jemaah Islamiah have focused more on the regional struggle.

Indonesia has had a major attack against high profile Western-linked targets each year from 2002 through 2005. Authorities tied all the attacks to elements of Jemaah Islamiah.

Indonesia is not officially an Islamic state.

-Reuters

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Reuters is usually a pro-Islamic source, so it's unlikely they're lying this time to make the situation seem worse than it is.

Does 10% consitute a significant level of support that is worrying and should be carefully watched, or is it trivial?

10% is trivial
That is a somewhat significant amount
very significant, very worrying

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COMMENTS:
Imagine for instance if 30 million americans (10%) sympathized with the actions of the klan and described them as necessary to defending their race/religion. Would this be A) trivial and ignored or B) a damning condemnation of american culture for being so tolerant of such violent bigots?

Somehow I think many people who see no problem with 10% of muslims in indonesia supporting islamic terrorism would see a major problem with 10% of americans supporting domestic terrorism.

by herzog on Mon Oct 16, 06 10:15pm [+]

33% of americans believe in ghosts.

your point?

by LCD on Mon Oct 16, 06 10:18pm [+]

go back to the 50's and do that klan poll in Alabama, and I bet you get a lot higher percentage.

heck, I can name a few communities in usa right now that you'll get higher percentage than 10%.

We shouldn't judge the whole US by them though should we.

by LCD on Mon Oct 16, 06 10:23pm [+]

Voted : That is a somewhat significant amount
LCD- Noone said anything about judging the whole of Indonesia. What was merely asked is, do you think this a significant number. Yes, indeed it is a minority, but would you describe it as a significant minority?

I would.

Now, answer the ballot question. No, tangents (I don't care how interesting it may be- If an answer doesn't actually respond to the question asked, I reject it as a total failure.)

by xxxxxxxx on Tue Oct 17, 06 3:13am [+]

This is kind of disturbing and significant lets look at the numbers.

The population of Indonesia is 220 million of which 85% is Muslim. So 187 million out of 220 million is Muslim. Of that 187 million, 1 in 10 advocate violent jihad. Thats about 18.7 million people (or 10% of the total Muslim population) Applying the stats to the whole nation , which is the way to look at it, the result is that of Indonesia's total population of 220 million, 8.5% (18.7 million) advocate violent jihad. Another way to look at it is that out of 220 million people 201.3 million don't advocate violent jihad or 91.5% of all Indonesians do not advocate jihads.

by TomSmith on Tue Oct 17, 06 5:48am [+]

Voted : That is a somewhat significant amount
Interesting points all around. I will challenge LCD on one point though. You could do a poll in the US and have 5% or even 2% supporting the Klan. That is still a worrying amount isn't it?

by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Tue Oct 17, 06 8:04am [+]

Everyone who hates us or disagrees with us must be a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer. rolleyes

by Cathexis on Tue Oct 17, 06 10:03am [+]

'33% of americans believe in ghosts.'

Irrelevent as belief in ghosts affects only those involved. Supporting terrorism affects thousands of others.

'go back to the 50's and do that klan poll in Alabama, and I bet you get a lot higher percentage.

heck, I can name a few communities in usa right now that you'll get higher percentage than 10%'

I doubt you could name those communities.

But lets say you could. Let's say you find a town with 10% approval rating of the KKK. Would you blow this off, or would you be worried? Would you launch in to tirades against the person who related this fact to you, or worry that so many support such an extremist terrorist organization? Like I said, you are a hypocrite on this issue. Prove me wrong, condemn this as you would condemn any signficant support of the klan in the US.

by herzog on Tue Oct 17, 06 10:46am [+]

Voted : very significant, very worrying
But what are we to expect, with so many around the world demonizing them and their faith?

by Truthseeker013 on Tue Oct 17, 06 5:33pm [+]

"Everyone who hates us or disagrees with us must be a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer."

Ok, since you made the assocation there is no difference between disagreeing with bush and supporting the bali nightclub bombing. Is that it eh cath? Or was your comment just more attempts at diversion and refusal to answer a very simple question posed to you?

Now, please answer the question (it's sad that I have to include this line to you in every single one of my ballots, but this is what you've led us to).

by herzog on Tue Oct 17, 06 7:35pm [+]

Any time now.

by herzog on Wed Oct 18, 06 6:09pm [+]

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