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KILLING GAYS IS OK, SAYS MUSLIM IMAM

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KILLING GAYS IS OK, SAYS MUSLIM IMAM


[+] serious ballot by herzog
created Thu Oct 26, 06

Manchester's leading Imam has confirmed that he thinks the execution of sexually active gay men is justified, reports Outrage. Mr. Arshad Misbahi, who is based at the Manchester Central Mosque, confirmed his views in a conversation to Dr John Casson, a local psychotherapist.

Dr Casson said: "I asked him if the execution of gay Muslims in Iran and Iraq was an acceptable punishment in Sharia law, or the result of culture, not religion. He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: if the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts."

"I asked him what would be the British Muslim view? He repeated that in an Islamic state these punishments were justified. They might result in the deaths of thousands but if this deterred millions from having sex, and spreading disease, then it was worthwhile to protect the wider community."

"I checked again that this was not a matter of tradition, culture or local prejudice. 'No,' he said, 'It is part of the central tenets of Islam: that sex outside marriage is forbidden; this is stated in the Koran and the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) had stated that these punishments were due to such behaviours.'"

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Now obviously this man is a barbarian, unfit for life in the civilized world. I think that goes without saying, although no doubt some will try to defend this as a 'cultural thing'.

But he isn't simply an individual citizen. He is an imam, a muslim leader, who represents more than simply himself.

So what obligation, if any, do the moderate muslims of Manchester have to distance themselves from this guy, who is currently representing them to the world? In the same way fred phelps is a disgrace to christianity and is denounced by all mainstream christians, should this guy likewise be denounced by mainstream british muslims?

Yes, they should distance themselves from this guy publicly
No they shouldn't
It's a cultural belief, we can't criticize this
I agree with muslim Imam. Killing gays should be justified - added in by you know who!
Killing anybody they don't like..is OK.....
face the reality - Islam is psychitic.
Killing Muslim Imams is OK, says Gays!
I guess Orlando Bloom won't be converting to Islam then...
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COMMENTS:
And just to avoid confusion, this is *not* like a republican politican saying he thinks homosexuals shouldn't marry, or are immoral, as many would have liked to claim.

This man is calling for the deaths of all homosexuals, round them up in to camps and murder them the same way the nazis did. There is a difference.
by herzog on Thu Oct 26, 06 1:49pm [+]

so let me get this straight, this is not a quote, but someone quoting and paraphrasing what someone else said?

I would quote some jews saying rediculous things (heck I can always find someone in the asylum taking crazy) and quote him to paint all jews as psychopathic childmolesting devilworshipper, but then I got better things to do.
by LCD on Thu Oct 26, 06 1:53pm [+]

Ok LCD, find instances of rabbis saying these same things in modern, western nations, while all other jews look on and do nothing to counter it.

You don't seem to get the question.
by herzog on Thu Oct 26, 06 1:55pm [+]

Voted : Yes, they should distance themselves from this guy publicly
these camps. would there be a gym, a pool for free-swim and other amenities, like a dance club, an abercrombie & fitch outlet and a starbucks? could be cool having a whole group of gay men gathered together in the same place if the atmosphere is right. no lesbians though. would they let cher come and sing for us?

kidding of course.

yes, they should come out publicly against the statements of this mad imam. this is 2006, not 1806. it's very scary to know that there are people out there that have these sick and hateful views.
by Kev24 on Thu Oct 26, 06 1:56pm [+]

No gym, the dance halls only play country music, and there's only one mirror that everyone has to share.

I told you this guy was a barbarian.
by herzog on Thu Oct 26, 06 2:02pm [+]

he is a cretin! country music? i'd slit my writst. one mirror? forget it man, the conditions sound sub-human.
by Kev24 on Thu Oct 26, 06 2:26pm [+]

IC_tune
by SmoothDiamond on Thu Oct 26, 06 4:36pm [+]

Herzog, why are you so worried about gays being murdered by Muslims?
Opps, my bad--maybe you should quit wearing your pink bowling shoes during Ramadan.
by elvislennon on Thu Oct 26, 06 5:15pm [+]

Voted : Yes, they should distance themselves from this guy publicly
It would be nice to see CIAR actually stand up to the bigots in their community but that's never going to happen.In a related story Austrialian Muslims have condemned an Austrialian Imas statement's says that women who do not wear the head dresses are responsible for their own rapes.
by Corrupt on Thu Oct 26, 06 5:22pm [+]

HAHA, the very MOMENT I read this article on the BBC webite I KNEW you were going to make a bllot about this! I was going to beat you to it, but I could never be so cruel xx
by lil_ape on Thu Oct 26, 06 5:42pm [+]

As for the ballot, Im sure even the most narrow minded liberal must have realised the implications of this mans statements when he justified with the very teachings of Muhammed Himself. Barbarric yes, institutionally barbaric? It appears so..
by lil_ape on Thu Oct 26, 06 5:44pm [+]

MAG_note All bound for Mu Mu Land
All bound for Mu Mu Land
(hey)
(hey hey)
All bound for Mu Mu Land (justified!)
(hey hey)
All bound for Mu Mu Land
They're Justified, and they're Ancient MAG_note go Tammy Wynette...
by MO_ on Thu Oct 26, 06 6:04pm [+]

^^^ cool song by the KLF
by SmoothDiamond on Thu Oct 26, 06 6:05pm [+]

ballot #86418
by SmoothDiamond on Thu Oct 26, 06 6:07pm [+]

Voted : Yes, they should distance themselves from this guy publicly
Smooth, WTF, this is one of numerous derogatory comments I've seen you post about gays!
by MO_ on Thu Oct 26, 06 6:14pm [+]

Voted : Yes, they should distance themselves from this guy publicly
It's damn scary, that's what it is. The whole world's collectively beginning to lose it.
by Truthseeker013 on Thu Oct 26, 06 7:12pm [+]

elvis: no, I'm not gay. My concern has to do with human rights.

Are you telling me if this guy was advocating killin all blacks (for example) you wouldn't care because you aren't black (or if you are pick some other race)?

This sort of mentality should be concerning anywhere, it's worse that it's here in the west.


You aren't concerned that people in the west are advocating mass murder?
by herzog on Thu Oct 26, 06 7:16pm [+]

"I agree with muslim Imam. Killing gays should be justified - added in by you know who!"

WTF smoothdiamond?

Is this an inside joke or do you really mean this?
by herzog on Thu Oct 26, 06 7:17pm [+]

Voted : Yes, they should distance themselves from this guy publicly
Smoothdiamond is a previously banned user notorious for his blatantly homophobic comments. Something he is quite obsessed about.

The Imam is a cretin devoid of any morality. However, he would fit in quite well in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan (under the Taliban), and several other Muslim countries.

Muslims who don't distance themselves from this "man's" comments are implicitly agreeing with him.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Thu Oct 26, 06 8:14pm [+]

fids is right. smoothdiamond really does mean it. he's a queen. a nasty queen. ugly by birth, he underwent a sex change operation but it was botched so now he's like part man, part woman, part troll. its a hideous site to behold him. but he's a queer as a 3 dollar bill.
by Kev24 on Thu Oct 26, 06 9:04pm [+]

Yea, the Imam says a lot of things. rolleyes
by Applerod on Thu Oct 26, 06 11:09pm [+]

Wtf? Whats worse the idiot Imam or the guy that added in the choice on this ballot. Both are dimwits
by TomSmith on Fri Oct 27, 06 12:30am [+]

This is not the view of an individual, this is the official view with regard to the Koran. People in the west need to realize the Middle Eastern Muslim countries DO NOT separate churcha nd state. Their laws are derived, sometimes directly, from the Koran. There are no 'politics' here, it is what they believe. They also believe, by the way, in killing all non-believers, as dictated by the Koran. This is the justification for Jihad (holy war).
by Guest User from [142.177.154.243] on Fri Oct 27, 06 12:56am [+]

I'm glad most people just want to live and let live.
by Mr_Sheepy on Tue Nov 07, 06 8:29am [+]

The religion of peace is at it again I see. God (not Allah) help the world if we don't see how utterly wrong Islam is.
by Guest User from [81.77.38.149] on Sun Mar 18, 07 6:51pm [+]

DEPORT ALL MUSLIMS - BACK to Afghanistan.
Blessed BLESSED Afghanistan!!

or Pakistan, or Kazakstan..
whereverStan...just deport them
back to a wretched Islamic country,
where they can join their equally screwed-up,backward brothers
in complete national psychosis,
and be Free At Last.
by aplmac on Mon Sep 17, 07 9:19am [+]

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