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sounds plausible. but i want to point out once again, this is a global elite operation. think bildebergs. aside from what ever you believe about 9/11, make no mistake that when they say "controlled civilian populace," they mean world-wide. it may not be apparent in all parts of the world just yet, but it is western elitists in europe and the united states that have this vision of the world. no one should mistake squables between the usa and france, as an example, as a break in relations. it is the bankers and financiers that call the shots and they have no national loyalty when it comes down to implementing their plan. iraq and afghanistan had the blessing of the world's finanaical market power brokers. thats a fact. what nation posed the biggest threat to imposing their will? the united states. a nation of "cowboys" carrying guns. "get them in place" was most likely an edict.
There is however, more than one conspiracy.
Those who believe that only a single large group controls world events are being too simplistic. The truth is, that there are competing groups, and that the more foolish ones believe their own advertising and hype a little too much.
possibly, but they're connected at the hip.
hasn't anyone wondered why the usa was so instrumental in encouraging the european union? since the 1950's american president's have promoted what a great idea it is. why? 2 reasons. what better way to dominate the world than to have 2 currencies that are joined at the hip that are the lube that oils the world financial markets.
there may be competing groups per se, but their competition has little to do with advancing national ideologies. hence world trade and globalization.
thinks bildebergs, skull and bones and free masons. they come from all countries. it's irrelevant when they meet if you're american, british or italian. their brotherhood transcends national identities.
That's sort of oversimplification that I'm talking about.
The Freemasons/Illumanati type of association with the Bilderberg business as it was the "One all and be all" of everything, as if there were no other secretive groups in competition with them and don't share their goals.
The Black Dragon Society for example DOES NOT put American-European interests first. They work in Asia, and wherever Asian business interests are.
There are also factions within these groups that don't agree with the other factions.
It's too simplistic to go by the belief that human interests and amibition won't get in the way, as if each of these groups was a single organism of a single mind. They aren't.
Sometimes one group will have the upper hand for awhile, seemingly, then other times another group will.
Nobody stays on top forever.
Nobody runs the whole world.
Chomsky and people like him are just cheerleaders for one of the factions, forgetting that the others have never gone away.
Voted : I don't believe it.
All of this is by say-so of Aaron Russo. He asserts that Rockefeller related all of this to him prior to the 9/11 attacks, with no witnesses, and we're to trust him on this because he once was Bette Midler's manager?!? Yes, of course, handling the affairs of the "Divine Miss M" would more than qualify him to understand the complexities of geopolitics, the inner machinations of the United States government, and the physics of building demolitions. Who next may we rely on? Barbra Streisand's chauffeur? Madonna's caterer?
Quite frankly, if you tried to present this in a court of law in the U.S. or Britain, it would most likely be completely inadmissible hearsay; "Then he sez to me, he sez...!" "Objection!" "Sustained, statement will be ignored by the jury!"
You really are slipping off into Richard Hoagland and Erich von Daniken land, Kenny boy. Ask Russo to spin us a few yarns about ancient astronauts yet or a few campfire ghost stories about vanishing hitchhikers.
See how Felix the cartoon cat falsely makes these absurd irelevant comparisons, totally ignoring the details in the ballot, I can promise you with near 100% certainty that he hasn't even bothered to read the ballot subtext because he is afraid to deal with reality, preferring the ersatz reality of his animated environment, next he'll be comparing me to his absurd alter ego Felix the Cat lol!
I have never taken a word that guy Felix takes seriously anyway ever since he offered to email me his tax returns to prove to me what his earnings are.
And I'm not making that up folks.
So the mere hear say of one man is devasting proof that 9/11 was an inside job?LOL Ken I think you better stick with shooting squibs and molten metal as you're proof because this means absolutely nothing.
Also Russo' argument that the Bush administration planned 9/11 in order to gain an excuse to invade Iraq makes no sense because Bush invaded Iraq under the pretext of WMDs and not Saddams connection to 9/11.If Bush was willing to kill 4000 people just to create an excuse to invade Iraq why not go the further step and directly tie Iraq to 9/11?Surely the same government that was able to pull off the worst terrorist attack in American history and keep it secret for 5 years would be able to create some false inteligence directly tying Iraq to 9/11 and use that pretext rather than the weak WMDS argument.
^yeah or lose the House and the Senate. 9/11 was far easier than stealing an election.
How're we supposed to believe the Rockefeller family, and Russo? What credibility do they have?
Ken, look at what Felix is asking:
"All of this is by say-so of Aaron Russo. He asserts that Rockefeller related all of this to him prior to the 9/11 attacks, with no witnesses, and we're to trust him on this because he once was Bette Midler's manager?!?"
"people jumping out of windows from a hundred floors up - they don't care," said the director."
--based on what?? What evidence is there of that?
by aya on Thu Nov 16, 06 7:50am
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Honestly, this sounds like the work of an overactive imagination, and besides, Russo, being the movie director he is, might consider making a movie on this. Besides, let's say that this is all true, what has the Bush admin done to silence Russo and Rockefeller? Or are they protected because they have so much money, so the CIA won't come after them to silence them?
by aya on Thu Nov 16, 06 7:52am
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"11 months to a year he predicted an event that would allow them to invade Afghanistan so we can run pipelines through the Caspian sea." You do realise that the pipeline agreement was signed in 1996 while the Clinton Admin was in office, right? Man, Rockefeller must have been claravoyant predicting something that was already been in the newspapers 4 years earlier. LOL!!!! But I guess you already knew that being that you research everything you believe. Keep it up Ken. I need a good laugh once in a while.
With respect Closet and Corrupt - weak replies as usual, try again.
You guys are so naive, anyone with reasonable intelligence knows it was an inside job, I actually believe you two are just afraid of the horrific truth.
I can sympathise - If I was an American - I would be too, and would be tempted to bury my head in the sand - just like you two guys.
Try again? No need. I already discredited this ridiculous theory by mentioned the date the pipeline contact was signed. Its you that needs to try again (which I'm sure you will).
Oh I won't try, I will just do, the guy is a high profile Hollywood player - but a layman never the less, that he got one retrospective detail wrong while commenting on his experience - that you in your desperation latched onto - proves absolutely nothing.
What would you say to Edna closet?
^How does that quote prove that the fire wasn't a blazing inferno?
What a stupid question. If it was a burning inferno, flames would be shooting out of the building killing everyone and melting the steel. That clearly did not happen. It might help to open your eyes and look at the picture.
Ken
This isn't the only conspiracy theory linking the Afghanistan War and the oil pipeline. Google: Afghanistan War and oil pipeline and you find numerous tales none of which takes into account when the contract date was set. Why bother? Gullible people aren't going to question it. Or will you Ken? I didn't think so.
If anyone's leading a cartoon existence, it's spamming idiot Kenny O'Mulder, aka Kenny from Tinfoilhatland, who lives in a fantastic world of complicated conspiracies that involve thousands of people all sworn inviolably to secrecy and mass cover ups. There's nothing "irrelevant" about impeaching the credibility of a source. You seem to imply it's just an ad hominem attack, but you miss the point: not all sources of information are created equal, nor are all of equal reliability. Furthermore, this man Russo's personal account has much in common with the people who claim that they were abducted by aliens (hundreds of such documented reports, as see the very amusing film, "Fire in the Sky," for one allegedly factual account). In other words, he spins us quite a yarn, but, at the end, we have only his word that such happened. Ever heard of Occam's razor, Kenny? Your conspiracy theories violate it utterly: the simplest explanation, with the fewest assumptions, matches a terrorist attack. Russo adds nothing to that: his account's absurd, unsubstantiated, and he has zero credentials in this area.
The biggest problem I have with your claims is that most of your source material appears to come from conspiracist websites or from watered-down versions of "Loose Change." We never see ANYTHING from a peer-reviewed professional journal, nor from a major professional convention or seminar, nor from an investigative news story from a well respected media source. It's always one lone quack professor who's lost tenure under mysterious circumstances or some twat who spends most of his time posting internet spam and compiling file cabinets full of "data" and screaming "Ah-ha!" from time to time. Now, in my estimation, you've hit utter rock bottom in terms of the credibility of your source. I fully expect you to give us a report transcribed from the Ouija board next.
Oh, and you can piss off if you don't like alias, Kenny boy. I picked it after about 5 seconds of reflection and about all it represents is my love of 1920's pop culture. If the best you can do to challenge me is to state I have a silly alias, then your even more of a literal-minded twit than I thought. Oh, and I was kidding you around re: the tax return, but, of course, you've the sense f humor of one of the Spanish Inquisitors, so you missed it.
Correct: "you're" for "your."
Oh, and what EXACTLY is there to respond to in Russo's rambling set of weird claims, Kenny? Yes, I read it, and it seemed to be the lunatic relations of an unhinged mind. I don't try to argue down homeless schizophrenics screaming at me when I walk down the street, either. Some of us have actual lives, O'Mulder.
 What's wrong with you? I believe you okay - you don't have to send me your tax returns! Strewth!!! some people!
"There's no way that Building 7 came down without a controlled demolition....
...it takes weeks to do the controlled demolition, they couldn't have done it in a few hours like Larry Silverstein said - it blows the whole game - concrete doesn't turn to powder unless its exploded."
"We all know that 9/11 was a fraud - an inside job," concluded Russo
Well, don't look now, Kenny boy, but there must be quite a few mad hatters running about here with me. The vast majority of those who've responded to your little spam ballot here think Russo's full of it. Checked the percentages lately? It's the same on your main "911" ballot.
You've not an ounce of crediblity, old fellow.
LOL!, poor Felix thinks that a 52%/48% split on 19 votes is a vast majority! - now who's mad as a hatter? 
Here's what the real deal is in the real world, suck on this Felix the cat! ......
^^A perfect example of an intentionally dishonest representation of a poll for deceptive reasons.
This poll had abslutely nothing to do with whether or not people believed the US government planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks.
The subject that was being discussed at the time of this poll was whether or not certain government departments had foolishly ignored, or been negligent in their security, and the handling of useful intelligence tips, reports and information regarding a possible Islamic terror plot and strike against US targets.
Around the time of this poll and before, an investigation and inquest was underway to determine where mistakes and errors may have been made with regards to tips that may have helped prevent an Islamic terror attack by Al-qaeda on the US, and whether or not intelligence reps where covering up any possible ineptness, goof-ups and negligence in their jobs.
Your dishonest use of this poll is shameful to say the least, or perhaps you are simply ignorant of its original basis. My guess is that it is the former more than it is the latter.
^^^ Jeez Jinn, that's really weak - even by your standards, you insult the intelligence of Best and Worst users with that clap trap.
SEE? The poll question is unequivacle and speaks for itself, that's the way polls of this nature are - no bells and whistles, and people click yes or no to the poll question only, and the results and the American people can speak for themselves, and don't need anyone to interpret their votes for them.
That's not the only high profile public opinion poll in which a vast majority of Americans express their belief that there is a US government cover-up surrounding 9/11.
"Jeez Jinn, that's really weak - even by your standards, you insult the intelligence of Best and Worst users with that clap trap. The poll question is unequivacle and speaks for itself"
by Ken from Dublin.
Ken. You call my comments weak, however you are trying to promote people's beliefs and a silly poll as a factual proof that the US government planned and carried out 9/11. Sorry, but that is the weakest argument of all. Now Ken, who is really insulting the intelligence of others? Intelligent people base their beliefs on their facts, not their facts on their beliefs.
You have no evidence to support your conspiracy theory, so meaningless polls is all you have?
Aside from being unscientific, the poll question is unprofessional and completely ambiguous. It implies both everything and nothing. Typical media game and hype for news and attention. It is useless, as virtually all polls are. Why don't you show me the results of a poll that asks if people believe the U.S. government deliberately planned and intentionally executed and carried out the 9/11 attacks, in order to kill it's own innocent people on purpose? Why has there been no such poll in the main stream American media? Seems a straight forward question to me.
Besides, like I said, what people believe does not prove anything other than what they believe. Same with ghosts. Same with UFOs. Same with Gods and religions. Belief is not an argument to prove a single thing. And in a democracy all citizens have a moral responsability to understand that "just because you believe in something, that doesn't make it so".
Just like the 9/11 conspiracy theorists. They have a belief, yet they are unable to show any unrefutable evidence that prove what they want to believe is actually truth and fact. So Mr. Charlie Sheen believes there is a conspiracy. So what? The Pope believes in a god, but that doesn't prove there is a god. And the Pope is an educated authority on the Bible and the history of Christianity. What's Charlie Sheen's expertise?
Beliefs and faiths are not scientific, credible, valid, factual evidences nor proofs of anything. Show the proof, not meaningless polls.
Still waiting after five years.
"You have no evidence to support your conspiracy theory, so meaningless polls is all you have?" (I've produced evidence all over this website duh!!!)
...groan....
I nearly stopped reading after that, what do you do about people like Jinn? - not just in denial - but in denial of his own denial....
You are a lost cause Jinn, you are obviously too afraid to face up to the facts.
I bet if those polls were in your conspiracy theory's favour you'd be extolling their virtues.
I'll leave you to stew in your own ignorance, after all it's bliss for some.
I'm holding an enquiry ballot to discover the truth
"There is going to be an event sometime next year1!!11!!" "Dem0litions must've made it fall!1!11!!"
I nearly stopped reading after that, what do you do about people like Jinn? - not just in denial - but in denial of his own denial...."
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hah, you act as if you're speaking to an audience that actually agrees with you.
How about ranting on something worthwhile, like what Saddam Hussein did to his people?
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