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bla bla bla do you and cranky do anything other than attack attack attack?
That's exactly why I'm not down with either party.
Voted : Liberals
Liberals, from the word 'liberty' or freedom. We tend to look forward, embrace change and have a live and let live philosophy.
Maybe something you both should realize is that you are equating current politicians to being liberals and conservatives, which is in fact untrue, they are false representations of what they pretend to be. Republicans are hardly conservative, and the Democrats for the most part aren't very liberal. This being said, it makes this ballot meaningless. Had you said "republicans and democrats" that might have been another story.
I can make a case for both trying and neither really succeeding. To oversimplify, which does the entire subject a great injustice, liberals would give a man a fish, while conservatives would teach a man how to fish. Neither solution is perfect. Time for a new model.
I think a government of, by and for the people can do a lot of good sometimes. The free market also has it's place. Overall, liberals believe more in individual rights, civil rights and human rights. When there's reason to believe a government controlled by the people can do better at provide a rational system of health care, one with more preventive care and fewer expensive trips to emergency rooms by the ininsured, that experiment should be tried. It's not like the current system is perfect. When the system is broke, conservatives say it's not broke and ignore problems.
Voted : Liberals
Real liberals. Socialists/leftists/fascists seek to give the state ownership of the individual.
Voted : Liberals
thc said it right. Real liberals. On most things, the major political parties are so close together on policies as to make voting pointless......
See my user page in answer to THCs misguided view of socialism
i'm a socialist, and my philosophy is that you have to do what's best for the individual AND the collective. democratic socialism.
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Voted : Conservatives
True fiscal conservatives believe in the ultimate assertion of the rights of the individual over any notion of collectivism. However, they are most interested in equality of competitive opportunity, not equality of final results. So, a true fiscal conservative would be unwaveringly against engrained social racism, but not so concerned by social stratification, provided that there was always a significant opportunity for the most talented "have nots" to advance & that institutionalized racism wasn't so endemic that this was impossible. If you work at the Quickie Mart, not just because you're black or Hispanic, but because you aren't very bright and didn't bother to advance your education or training, then that's just fine with a true fiscal conservative. In no way are any of the current "conservatives" in D.C. true fical conservatives. Certainly the neocons are miles away from this.
You've written quite the load on your page steel. The fact remains, the government owns ALL means of production in a socialist state. You and your hands are a means to produce. Socialists support state ownership of the people.
Voted : Liberals
Im guessing even when you write this sort of stuff, you know it to be untrue THC, slavery is a capitalist invention not a socialist one. Freedom is only possible when people have a stake in the society they live in, and capitalism excludes too many people.
Voted : Conservatives
Well, my family's in the top 3% of income earners, and we earned every bit of it, no thanks to the state and federal government's attempt at grabbing as much as they can to subsidize foreign interventions and useless citizens. When I was growing up, my family was firmly in the bottom 10% of income earners. All of this Marxist garbage generally is spouting by utter losers, who lack the intellect or spine for a truly competitive society. You want the rest of us to carry you along, and to blame those who succeed and whose success creates economies of scale--providing low-wage work for you socialist wankers.
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