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COMMENTS:
Voted : Antifeminist are more bigoted
Antifeminists would be more biggoted because they would be defending their egos and their right to abuse women while femisists would be defending their right to live without the abuse. One is based on serving the self; the other is based on survial.
^Survival? C'mon guy, what decade/century do you think we are living in? Maybe 50-100 years ago. Feminists nowadays are mainly insecure, lonely women who have had some bad experiences with men, and decide to brand the whole male race as chauevenist pigs. THATS bigoted.
Anti-feminists (nowadays) are people who form part of the backlash against the de-masculisation of the male race by over zealous man hating "feminists" who need an outlet for the chip ON THEIR OWN SHOULDER.
From my experience Feminist are more bigoted since they believe the only just way to treat women is according to their dogma.There is no compromising with the majority of Feminist,they want the entire society to be remade into their ideal and when society rejects this radical restructuring they cry sexism.Moreeover as bad as antifeminist are I have yet to hear one call for the extermination of the female gender or a segregation of the sexes while many Radical,Seperatist and Lesbian Feminist often call for the murder of the male gender ort atleast secession from the "patriarchy".
Feminists nowadays are mainly insecure, lonely women who have had some bad experiences with men, and decide to brand the whole male race as chauevenist pigs. THATS bigoted.
What about those feminists who laud the rights of women in the Middle East? Fatima Mernissi and Wafa Dufor aren't lonely, insecure women who've had bad experiences with men and have decided to brand all of mankind as chauvinist pigs. Besides, what you're saying is a sterotype.
by aya on Thu Nov 30, 06 7:22am
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Radical,Seperatist and Lesbian Feminist often call for the murder of the male gender ort atleast secession from the "patriarchy".
I"ve never heard that, to be honest. Which feminists say that?
by aya on Thu Nov 30, 06 7:23am
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^Feminists oftne joke about how much better the world would be without men, how useless men are aside from providing children, how all a girl needs is a vibrator and chocolate ice cream rather than a man, etc etc. In my opnion this all stems from the fact that most of them CANT get a man, so are bitter and resentful. This also explains why they attack beautiful women who decide to model, telling these women that they are being treated as meat, that their human rights are being abused etc, when in fact the women are quite happy. Its the feminists who WISH they received that sort of adoration.
And yes, there are a few exceptions, but I believe to be a feminist nowadays means to be one or more of these things. The "feminists" who are more reasonable and not man haters arent, in fact, feminists, and are instead supporters of equal rights. Which is a respectable thing to be.
This also explains why they attack beautiful women who decide to model, telling these women that they are being treated as meat, that their human rights are being abused etc, when in fact the women are quite happy.
Not to sound like a 'feminist' here, but it's true that most models parade around half naked, and the pressure on them can lead to anorexia. Even Tyra Banks admitted that "that's part of the industry we work in." That's why you wouldn't have a heavy set girl being considered a model.
by aya on Thu Nov 30, 06 8:18am
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Besides, an answer to a question like this: it would depend on which gender you ask. Women are probably more likely to say "antifeminists" men "feminists"
by aya on Thu Nov 30, 06 8:20am
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Voted : Antifeminist are more bigoted
Neither is perfect, but even in the west, women don't get paid the same. One study shows that 70% of minority women in law firms quit because they get work that noone else wants to do.
Ok, but women are more likely to win custody of children, to win increasingly large and UNJUSTIFIED amounts of their husbands money after a divorce, get more lenient sentences for the same crimes as committed by a man. The courts are certainly in womens favour, even if the job market isnt. Women have advantages as well.
Im not saying things are exactly equal, but there is no need for militant feminism nowadays, and as such it says more about the insecurities of the Feminist than the inequalities between men and women.
Aya
I think you're probably right, its natural to have a tendency to support those you have most in common with I guess, however objective you try to be.
Anyway, my beef is not with the whole idea of feminism as a means to securing EQUAL rights for the sexes, its with militant man hating feminists who basically want women to be dominant in every area of life and have all the advantages. The sort of women who applaud gold diggers like Heather Mc Cartney when they heartlessly rape their husbands wealth and fame. What a fucking scum bag that women is.
Aya Radical,Separatist and Lesbian Feminist are the one's who often call for the genocide of the male gender.Those are the schools of Feminism that I was refering to.Marxist Feminist or Anarcho Feminist don't say those sort of thing because they view the battle for women's rights from another perspective.
Corrupt, I've never heard of any feminists calling for the genocide of the male gender. I've heard of radical feminists, who want to advocate that women reproduce entirely through invitro, but the only feminists I've personally run into are my TA and my prof, neither of whom are militant. But yeah, radicalism is never a good thing.
by aya on Thu Nov 30, 06 10:48am
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Voted : Feminist are more bigoted
I remember in the early 90s, "every man is a potential rapist' bandied about on university campuses especially during those ridiculous Take back the night marches. If a man were to say "every woment is a potential thief/murderer/poisoner, etc... on a university campus, in a lecture, or a graduate thesis, the repercussions would be horrific.Why the double standard?And docDraw, you are absolutely correct as to systemic inequalities perpetrated against men.
Anyone who spends so much effort in attack, attack, attack, in promotion of their ideology...especially when claiming to represent people which they were never elected to do, never given permission to do, and which they frequently attack, is in my opinion far more bigoted.
Feminist leaders claim to represent women. This claim is false. They only represent their own particular brand of ideology and have tried to hijack the role of representation.
I didn't elect them to represent me, so why do they claim that they do? I didn't see any women elect feminists to represent them. When was the election held?
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