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CAN ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS EVER COEXIST PEACEFULLY?

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CAN ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS EVER COEXIST PEACEFULLY?


[+] serious ballot by Applerod
ACTIVE Sun Dec 03, 06 - Sat Jul 26, 08

Could they ever coexist peacefully* in something resembling a combined Israeli-Palestinian state? Or is the division between them so deep that such a possibility is simply unattainable?

*(disregarding isolated incidents of violence)

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COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes
In a generation or two, same as with the Irish. They'll eventually accept the Road Map.
by skylab on Sun Dec 03, 06 9:20am [+]

Voted : Other
That's a good question. I'm not sure they could, but under the right set of circumstances, maybe so.
by cranky on Sun Dec 03, 06 9:39am [+]

Voted : No
A separate two state situation is necessary.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Sun Dec 03, 06 10:33am [+]

Voted : No
The majority of the Arabs do not want peace with the state of Israel.
by UncleMax on Sun Dec 03, 06 10:36am [+]

If the Arab world can ever learn to accept Israel as a sovereign state, perhaps.

So I'm going to have to say no :(
by jappy on Sun Dec 03, 06 10:46am [+]

Depends on alot of things.

If palestine were to give up their jihad against Israel, accept that Israel is there to stay, and forget their dreams of finishing hitlers grande scheme then they could be at peace.

They could have peace today if they wanted it.

But the likelyhood of this happening is slim unfortunately.
by herzog on Sun Dec 03, 06 11:52am [+]

"...finishing Hitler's grand scheme"..."

Herzog, you're a fucking imbecile.

There was precious little conflict between Arabs & Muslims until the establishment of the Israeli state in Palestine in 1947 - which, given that Jews had been absent from the area since Roman times, was seen as another example of Western imperialism by the indigenous Arabs who have historically been given little reason to trust the West. And subsequent decades' worth of unmitigated US support for Israel has proved them right.

Not that you care of course, herzog. Your mind - inadequate little brainfart that it is - was made up long ago.
by ramaDUNG on Sun Dec 03, 06 12:11pm [+]

Voted : No
hahahahaha...Whew!!! No fair Dung, I had a comment (and it was quite a comment indeed)to share. However, your above comment kept me in stitches...Therefore, I'll go with, "No," Alex for $1 and reward Dung with Karma for maintaining his composure while putting together/submitting to his readers quite a straight forward response to this excellent ballot question...Good Job Applerod!(The reason I voted, "NO," because as long as Israel continues to be a war like people, the Palestinans will always be in the defense posture).
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Sun Dec 03, 06 12:35pm [+]

herzog - Thats rediculous.

You're saying they could have peace today if they surrendered. Thats what Hitler would have said about Polland
by Mr_Susan on Sun Dec 03, 06 2:40pm [+]

Mr S: they could have peace today if they sat down with Israel and hammered out a workable treaty. And then, and this is the tricky part, stuck to it.

So far they have many of promising starts only to violate them before the ink dried.

It's more like saying the irish could have peace with britain if they'd stop blowing up british civilians. And in fact they have, and they do.
by herzog on Sun Dec 03, 06 3:19pm [+]

Voted : No
I know I've recounted this before, but that was at least a year ago, if memory serves, so here goes.

I knew a Saudi man back when I was in college, and I once asked him, "If there were a way for Israel and Palestine to exist, separate and equal, each havign lands of their own and *not dependent* on each other in the least, *never having to see one another again*, would you still want to see Israel destroyed?" His answer, without pause, "Yes." When I asked him why, "They're Jews. All Jews must die."
by Truthseeker013 on Sun Dec 03, 06 5:30pm [+]

The Israelis will never stop manipulating the Palestinians and the Americans. They will never stop provoking the Muslims into violence and they will never stop conning the Americans into supporting them.
by cranky on Sun Dec 03, 06 7:06pm [+]

Of course, the real answer is to send a peacekeeping force made up of neocons into the area. They would keep the Palestinians in line. MAG_rofl
by cranky on Sun Dec 03, 06 7:07pm [+]

hewrzog - Good example - only difference is that Britich Troops have also pulled out of Northern Ireland - So It kind of proves my point
by Mr_Susan on Mon Dec 04, 06 3:42am [+]

Mr S: the brits pulled out once the Irish gave up terrorism and sat down to talk like civilized people. That kind of proves my point, doesn't it?
by herzog on Mon Dec 04, 06 3:43pm [+]

^ Probably the most immature synopsis of the Troubles I've ever heard.
by ramaDUNG on Mon Dec 04, 06 4:57pm [+]

And what's more, a flawed analogy.

Who are the "British" in Palestine?
by ramaDUNG on Mon Dec 04, 06 4:59pm [+]

Herzog - you make absolutely no sense - again -

Are you saying that if palestinians stopped fighting against the Isreali's that Israel would pull out of all of the land that they have forcefully invaded.

I thought you said that the Palastinians were the aggressors, yet you admit that Israel would retreat from invaded land if the palastinians stopped fighting.
by Mr_Susan on Wed Dec 06, 06 3:30am [+]

" Are you saying that if palestinians stopped fighting against the Isreali's that Israel would pull out of all of the land that they have forcefully invaded."

Gaza, the west bank, the golan heights, etc have all been laid on the negotiating table from time to time, and the Israelis have never done anything to suggest they would reneg on their promises. These deals always ended in palestine declaring a new intifida, which of course put an end to the negotiations and all offers were withdrawn. Look at the israeli "invasions" of palestine, all are in response to direct terrorist activity carried out by hezbollah and related terrorists (now their legally elected government).

" I thought you said that the Palastinians were the aggressors, yet you admit that Israel would retreat from invaded land if the palastinians stopped fighting"

I don't see how that is contradictory. Palestine is the aggressor, they launch attacks on Israeli soil, in response Israel invades to root out the terrorists that the palestinian government refuses to do anything about. They aren't particularly good aggressors, as they constantly pick fights out of their weight group, but they are definitely the ones picking the fights.
by herzog on Wed Dec 06, 06 6:00pm [+]

^ Is there no end to this buffoon's idiocy?

What's now called Israel used to be called Palestine before 1947, yet brain-ache here is claiming that the Palestinians are the aggressors.

Revisionist little piss-ant, isn't he?
by ramaDUNG on Sat Dec 09, 06 6:30am [+]

To the member above me... the only one who made himself look like an idiot buffoon, is you! With your immature comment... insulting someone in order to look superior... that actually made you look even worse!
And by the way, just to remind you, that Palestine is a Roman invention, came up on the ruins of ancient Israel. The Palestinians, as we know them today, NEVER had a sovereign country there, but the Jews did have! The Palestinians of before 1947 were all Jews, Muslims, and Christians... History teaches us that there was a solution for the Palestinian Muslims back then to have their own land, but they refused it because they wanted the whole land for themselves, when it wasn't theirs on the first place... people with big eyes get nothing in the end!
They should stop acting like crying babies, grow up, and realize that Israel is not going to disappear,stop sending suicide bombers to Israel, stop preaching for hate and the hope for the destruction of Israel in the education system for little Palestinian kids, and start talking like human beings with the Israelis!!! Israel has peace with most of the countries in this world, because they are peaceful country, so try to talk to them without hate and violence, Then the Plalestinians might get their independence in their current territories! They have enough space in the Gaza strip and the West Bank to create another peaceful and successful Muslim state in the middle east, like Jordan and Egypt! Leave the Jews and the Jewish state alone already, the Jews have only one small tiny country in this world, and they can't even live in peace there...
by Mephisto on Thu Mar 22, 07 1:40pm [+]

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