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MUSLIM BOYS URINATED ON BIBLE

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MUSLIM BOYS URINATED ON BIBLE


[+] serious ballot by herzog
created Wed Dec 06, 06

TWO Muslim students have been expelled from an Islamic school in Melbourne for urinating and spitting on a Bible and setting it on fire.

The explosive incident has forced the East Preston Islamic College to call in a senior imam to tell its 650 Muslim students that the Bible and Christianity must be respected.

Anxious teachers at the school have also petitioned principal Shaheem Doutie, expressing "grave concern" about an "inculcation of hatred and radical attitudes towards non-Muslims" at the school, including towards non-Muslim teachers.

The Bible desecration took place last week at a school camp held near Bacchus Marsh, about 50km west of Melbourne, attended by 33 teenage Muslim boys ranging in age from Year7 to Year 10.

A school report of the incident, obtained by The Australian, says it happened late at night and involved three students and another two watching.

"The main perpetrator (a Year 7 student) urinated on the Holy Bible, tore some pages from the Holy Book and burnt them then finally spat on the Holy Book," the report says.

The second boy, from Year 9, "tore pages from the Holy Book and burnt them", while a third student, from Year 7, "tore pages from the Holy Bible and then he rolled it up like a cigarette and pretended to smoke it".

The boys come from a variety of ethnic Muslim backgrounds -- one is believed to be an Albanian/Malaysian, another Lebanese and another Indonesian.

Mr Doutie, whose school receives about $3.9 million in state and federal government funding each year, told The Australian yesterday that both he and the school community were appalled by the Bible desecration and that he had expelled the first two boys and suspended the third.

In a letter to all staff on Monday, Mr Doutie wrote: "The school unconditionally apologises for this horrible act as conducted by some illiterate and ignorant students while under the care of EPIC teachers.

"We regard the desecration of the Bible in a very serious light and therefore we have taken serious action against the offenders.

"The Bible is an important book both for non-Muslims and Muslims and should be treated as a holy book by all religions."

Mr Doutie said he did not believe that the boys realised the significance of their act.

But to ensure it did not happen again he had called in the assistant imam of the Newport Mosque, Oman Haouli, to tell the students that the Bible was a sacred book. "My lesson to them was to respect their neighbours and respect all religions," Mr Haouli said yesterday.

But the desecration incident has shaken the nerves of the school's teachers, about half of whom are non-Muslim.

A petition signed by 22 teachers expressed "anguish and dismay at the grave incident of the desecration of the Holy Bible".

"This whole incident implies a deep hatred inculcated in the students towards the Christians/non-Muslim teachers," it says.

The petition said there had been "previous incidents of students misbehaving towards non-Muslim teachers".

It called on the school to "take steps to rectify this explosive situation" to ensure the safety of teachers.

Mr Doutie said the school had tried to contact the parents of the expelled boys to find out why they had desecrated the Bible. But he said the school had not received a response.

EPIC is an eight-year-old primary and secondary school in Melbourne's north that caters mostly to the children of working-class immigrant Somali and Lebanese families.

The Bible desecration comes at a time of heightened tension among Australia's 300,000-member Islamic community, many of whom believe their religion is being unfairly discriminated against because of terrorism fears.

Many Muslims remain angry about the public humiliation suffered by their spiritual leader, the mufti Taj Din al-Hilali, after the Sheik likened female rape victims to pieces of meat who brought the attacks on themselves.

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Christians of B&W, how will you respond to this desecration?

Ignore it
write an angry letter
Burn muslim communities to the ground, riot, kill and pillage until it is resolved
Wipe my ass with their most sacred of toilet papers, the koran
think it's yet another lie told by a filthy jew.
Resolved?? This must NEVER be resolved!
Deprogram & Re-educate All Muslims Everywhere re: 'the Koran'..!
They were just stupid ignorant kids
Forgive Them, and Let God bring justice to them
I'm not Christian. Why should I care?
Give them more Bibles to urinate on


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COMMENTS:
Voted : Ignore it
I'm not religious at all, but I think I'll pretty much ignore this issue (except for this ballot obviously). It's not that big of deal, they're human and they screwed up, and it's been dealt with.

Surely things of this nature, desecrations of religious texts by those of a different faith, isn't worth killing over? You'd think that would be common sense . . .
by herzog on Wed Dec 06, 06 6:33pm [+]

What's with the kids picture that shows up whenever you post a comment?

It's kind of creepy.
by herzog on Wed Dec 06, 06 6:37pm [+]

Voted : Burn muslim communities to the ground, riot, kill and pillage until it is resolved
Im a little tight around the shoulders, need to let out some tension. Not that Im Christian, I could just do with the exercise.
by Doctordraw on Wed Dec 06, 06 6:40pm [+]

Yeah, shes freaking me a little too, lol.

Actually, Is it really safe for he to be alone with some of the dubious chracters we have skulking around B and W at the moment?
by Doctordraw on Wed Dec 06, 06 6:42pm [+]

herzog, you're a disgusting, racist liar.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Dec 06, 06 7:13pm [+]

^whoooooa, wheres this coming from?
by Doctordraw on Wed Dec 06, 06 7:16pm [+]

Voted : Ignore it
It does not matter the Bible is just a book,what is important about the Bible is it's message and that can not be stained with piss.
by Corrupt on Wed Dec 06, 06 8:39pm [+]

he thinks herzog is a Jew and he hates Jews. So rather than looking the story up on the Internet to verify whether it is valid or not, he launches into one of Jew-hating rants. And he wonders why he gets negative karma. The article can be found here: theaustralian. news. com. au/story /0,20867,20879483-2702,00. html
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Wed Dec 06, 06 8:40pm [+]

If you ignore it, why the ballot?
by skylab on Wed Dec 06, 06 8:42pm [+]

Short memories herzog and fiddler etc. haven't you?

We Will Rape Your Women, Heck We Will Rape Our Women, But We Would Never Flush the Koran
by James Glaser

Washington is sounding indignant about a report in Newsweek that American Prison Guards desecrated the Muslim Holy Book, the Koran, by flushing it down a toilet. In Kabul, Afghanistan, US military spokesman Colonel Jim Yonts is reported to have said, "Any disrespect to the Koran and any other religion is not tolerated by our culture and values." That sounds good, but Muslims and most of the world are not going to buy it.

The reputation of our country hinges on our credibility and that credibility is at an all time low right about now. The Muslim world is upset about reports that our prison interrogators will desecrate the Koran, the Muslim Holy Book, their bible if you will, to intimidate prisoners into talking. In some Muslim countries, desecrating the Koran is punishable by death and several reports say American Prison Guards, have shown disrespect toward the Koran and have even flushed it down the toilet.

A few decades ago no one would believe a report like that, but today nothing is unbelievable when it comes to what our country will stoop to.

Colonel David H. Hackworth wrote, "By April 2004, rapes and assaults of American female soldiers were epidemic in the Middle East. But even after more than 83 incidents were reported during a six-month period in Iraq and Kuwait, the 24-hour rape hotline in Kuwait was still being answered by a machine advising callers to leave a phone number where they could be reached." This is how we treat American women. This is a reflection on our "culture and values."

It is widely reported that many American military women serving in Iraq, need guards in order to take a shower because of fear of sexual assaults by their fellow soldiers. Washington wants the world to believe that some of these same troops would never flush a Koran.

American Soldiers have been indicted for raping Iraqi women, but we have no numbers and because we keep no numbers on the number of Iraqi women and children killed in this war, it should be no surprise that we keep no count of Iraqi women reporting that they have been raped by Americans.

The whole world has seen the photos of American troops sexually humiliating and torturing Iraqi terror suspects. We have all read reports of prisoners being beat to death in American run prisons in Afghanistan, but we want the world to know we would never flush the Koran down a toilet.

American citizens were horrified when they saw the photos from Abu Ghraib Prison, but we were only shown the tame ones. Senator Richard J. Durbin saw the photos our government wouldn’t let us see and he said, "There were some awful scenes. It felt like you were descending into one of the rings of hell, and sadly it was our own creation." Congressman Martin T. Meehan said, "I was obviously shocked and horrified to discover that the new photos are even more gruesome than those we have seen in the media." Now Washington wants the world to believe that our values and culture are such, that we would never desecrate a Holy book. Torture, sexually humiliate, and sexually assault, Yes. Desecrate, No

Our admitted acts in Bush’s War on Terror are so criminal that it is impossible for the White House to hold the line and say that what we are accused of now, the desecration of the Koran, never happened.

From the fact that we attacked Iraq because of fictitious Weapons of Mass Destruction, to the torture and killing of Iraqi and Afghan suspects, American credibility has been on a steady downward path. Today with the availability of cheap video cameras and the use of cell phones to send photos, the world’s media no longer has to rely on America’s major news outlets to see what in going on in the combat zone.

In both Iraq and Afghanistan there have been independent and Arab news sources broadcasting the horror of Bush’s Wars. Horrors the American people will never see here at home. The rest of the world sees the carnage taking place every day in Iraq. The bodies of children and their mothers are shown where they died. The horror of an Iraqi hospital can be seen all over the world, except in North America. In North America, we are not even permitted to see our own Military Hospitals on television, nor the flag draped coffins of our troops who have died in Combat.

Washington and even George Bush himself will try and spin this latest charge against our country, but today the United States has too much baggage from what we have already done, for anyone to take Bush’s denials seriously.

May 18, 2005

Jim Glaser , a Marine Corps Vietnam War veteran and Commander of VFW Post 3869, works to educate the American public on the consequences of war.

His personal website is James-Glaser.com.


by Ken_from_Dublin on Wed Dec 06, 06 11:35pm [+]

*Shrugs*

I don't see what the big deal is. Yes, it is offensive to many- and people should try to be more respective. But I don't see why such a fuss is being made at such a large scale. It's like flag burning- not that much of a big deal. It's all just symbolism, and not practically anything criminal. I would think the ideas and values of the religion transcend that of just a book.

But I'm not Christian.
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Dec 06, 06 11:38pm [+]

Quick! Let's invade Iran!
by Mr_Sheepy on Thu Dec 07, 06 2:25am [+]

flagrantviolator's ballot choice, another lie told be a filthy Jew, yet he won't comment 'cause he can't back up his accusations.
by aya on Thu Dec 07, 06 8:19am [+]

Ken, this is a moral equivalency arguement, is it? Because US soldiers did it Iraq, it's ok for boys to urinate on the bible? Besides, what about the problems faced by non-Muslim teachers? Are Australian teachers and non-Muslim students somehow responsible for what US soldiers did in Iraq?
by aya on Thu Dec 07, 06 8:22am [+]

Voted : Ignore it
How nice of them. Urine is like air freshner to a Muslim, so it was probably a friendly gesture. 068
by _Beelzebubba on Thu Dec 07, 06 9:23am [+]

Voted : Burn muslim communities to the ground, riot, kill and pillage until it is resolved
Kill Hate Murder revenge!
by aplmac on Thu Dec 07, 06 9:28am [+]



It's abhorrent !
by Black_Lava on Thu Dec 07, 06 9:31am [+]

Haha, ken thinks he's clever because he got the obvious parallel that everyone else understood so clearly no one thought it even enecessary to mention.

Ken, when americans desecrated a koran (allegedly) what was the muslim reponse? I believe they rioted and killed people. When muslims desecrated a koran the response from christians was . . . nothing really. Anger from some, indifference from most, but certainly no violence.

I'm glad you worked so dilegently to prove my point, but really, I can handle it, no help necessary.
by herzog on Thu Dec 07, 06 7:05pm [+]

I draw the line at peeing on
the 1976 Atlanta Telephone Directory!
Anyone who does THAT
is gonna MY hackles up BigTime,buddy!
by aplmac on Sat Jul 28, 07 9:59am [+]

Voted : Deprogram & Re-educate All Muslims Everywhere re: 'the Koran'..!
The Jewish and Christian bibles must Not be taken 'literally', not at all..!
Likewise, Mohammed's personal composition 'the Koran', also must Not be read or interpreted, 'literally'..!
Literalists, fundamentalists, of any kind, are frequently not very bright..!
Deprogram, liberate, re-educate, free up the masses to function (far) more intelligently..! That Would be a great improvement, for individuals and for the World..!
by HocusTocus on Sun Oct 21, 07 6:31pm [+]

Voted : They were just stupid ignorant kids
They were expelled, and quite right, too.
by Andrew_Anorak on Sun Mar 23, 08 8:25am [+]

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