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Voted : It's fair for them to detail what is/is not acceptable
So apparently now it's racist to ask someone not to kill people.
Voted : It's fair for them to detail what is/is not acceptable
Seems fair. Not all immigrants come in with the same values we in the west share. Hence all the 'honor' killings muslim immigrants have committed across europe and north america. Letting them know exactly what is acceptable seems like a reasonable preemptive measure. At least now they can't claim ignorance later on.
"So apparently now it's racist to ask someone not to kill people." Well, if they're muslims then yes. Apparently according to their religion (which is also a race now) they are supposed to kill people, so asking them not to isn't fair to their culture (which again, is also a race apparently). Seems absurd to me, but I'm sure there are plenty on here who agree with that sentiment.
Voted : It's fair for them to detail what is/is not acceptable
When I was in the service we were required to attend newcomers orientation classes. Sounds like a great idea.
Some may find it offensive and others may find it useful. You can't please everyone.
Voted : It's fair for them to detail what is/is not acceptable
Quebec is right on this one. But I am sure Ottawa will reign in with its overly politically correct culture and force them to remove it.
old news "Herouxville, which has one immigrant family in its population of about 1,300, is 160km (100 miles) north-east of Montreal." One immigrant family, so what is the point of all this again?
by aya on Wed Jan 31, 07 1:31pm
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Montreal police are investigating an officer who wrote a song called That's Enough Already, which says immigrants are undermining Quebec culture. I would like to hear how they're undermining Quebec culture
by aya on Wed Jan 31, 07 1:35pm
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bunch of yahoos in smallville picking on one immigrant family. does canada have hate crime laws?
by LCD on Wed Jan 31, 07 4:11pm
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LCD: asking muslim immigrants not to murder the natives is a hate crime?
Voted : It's fair for them to detail what is/is not acceptable
I was sort-of operating under the assumption that Canada has already banned things like stoning and burning people alive. Why does this town even need to lay out such rules, when they are already accepted on a national level? To treat this one family with such paranoia is a fine example of xenophobia. This story does not even detail where this one family is from. It seems to me that they have no reason to assume that this Muslim family would even think about stoning somebody. I agree, though, that it is fair for it to be detailed what is and is not culturally acceptable.
I dont think that it is racist to assume that muslims treat their women in the way that you have described, because its obvious some of them do. However I think asking a fanatic muslim not to do something that he views as sacrament ridiculous. Pointing out wha is and is'nt tolerated in Britain would not have stopped the London Bombings. If muslims want to condone the awful treatment of their women then thats their business, just dont expect to get away with it over in a nation where women are valued members of society. Perhaps the best solution would be to come down extremely hard on the Muslims that do stone and rape women. As for the council that published these rules, they should ask themselves this question: What do they hope to achieve with the declaration? Surely the only thing this will achieve is straining the relationship the town has with its only immigrant family, (who I assume are muslims.) It seems to me that Herouxville council has intensionally tried to slander one family in its community, which is unnecessary and counter-productive to their aims.
"Apparently according to their religion (which is also a race now) they are supposed to kill people" According to the Old Testament, Jews and Christians are too: "If your very own brother... secretly entices you, saying, 'Let us go and worship other gods'.... Show him no pity.... Stone him to death, beacused he tried to turn you away from the Lord your God." -- Deutoronomy 13:9-11 I think I should propose an insensitive and illogical posting on my city's website for Christians and Jews about how it's not morally sound to stone people.
But I want to emphasize the fact that I *do* believe it's alright for immigrants to be told what is and is not acceptable. Just not in this fashion and for this reason.
LCD: asking muslim immigrants not to murder the natives is a hate crime? It's one immigrant familiy
by aya on Thu Feb 01, 07 8:39am
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Aya: it's not aimed at that one family, it's aimed at any immigrants who may wish to move to this town. Winston: while it's unlikely to stop many of these people, it will take away the defense often employed when caught of "well how was I supposed to know you couldn't beat your wife here? We do it all the time back home".
"well how was I supposed to know you couldn't beat your wife here? We do it all the time back home". They justify this because of their religion, it should simply be pointed out to muslims that if they want to live in Canada, Canadian law takes precedence over their religious ideologies. If they cannot accept this, then they shouldn't be allowed in the country. "Aya: it's not aimed at that one family, it's aimed at any immigrants who may wish to move to this town." So you are of the opinion that Herouxville council has intentionally tried to stop more muslims moving to their town? If this is the case then Its simple Xenophobia, i dont think that it is a hate crime.
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