GIRL RAPED, PARADED IN THE NAME OF 'HONOUR'

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GIRL RAPED, PARADED IN THE NAME OF 'HONOUR'


[+] serious ballot by herzog
created Sun Feb 04, 07

Karachi, January 31: A group of Pakistani men has been accused of raping a teenaged girl and forcing her to parade naked through her village because one of her relatives eloped with a young women from the men's family, police said on Wednesday.

Such attacks, known as honour crimes because they are committed in response to a perceived slight on a family's honour, are common in Pakistan, especially in backward, rural communities.

Police said the girl's father had filed a complaint on Saturday in Ubaro town, 530 km (330 miles) from the city of Karachi, saying a group of 11 men had kidnapped his daughter, raped her and forced her to parade naked.

The father told police the men were furious because the girl's cousin had eloped with and married a young woman from their family.

"Some villagers have said the girl was raped and her clothes torn off," investigating police officer Aftab Farooqi said.

"They also claim she was forced to walk half naked in the village streets before some older woman covered her with a blanket," he said.

The girl is in hospital in Ubaro, police said.

Another senior police official, Mushtaq Khoso, said police had arrested four of the 11 men named in the complaint and police were awaiting a medical report to confirm the 16-year-old had been raped.

Another police officer said certain influential people were pressing the girl's father to drop his complaint.

The case brings to mind a similar attack on a village woman in 2002.

The woman, Mukhtaran Mai, was gang-raped on the orders of a traditional village council in Punjab province as punishment because her brother had had a relationship with a young woman without the approval of her family.

Mai pressed charges against her attackers and rose to international prominence as a women's rights campaigner.

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Do we have a right to objectively judge this act, and at least this part of their culture, barbaric, or are there no objective standards of behavior, in which case this is merely their culture and cannot be criticized?

There are objective standards, this can be judged barbaric
This cannot be criticized
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Voted : There are objective standards, this can be judged barbaric
Does the question really need to be asked?
by himself809 on Sun Feb 04, 07 5:47pm [+]

Voted : There are objective standards, this can be judged barbaric
Why don't they punish the guy? It seems they are not really angry at what guys do, They are just looking for reasons to express women hating.
by forgetmenot on Sun Feb 04, 07 8:05pm [+]

Himself: 7 out of 17 people have voted that this cannot be criticized, apparently the correct answer is not as obvious to some people as it should be.
by herzog on Mon Feb 05, 07 6:38am [+]

Voted : There are objective standards, this can be judged barbaric
It was plain wrong. Even the incompetent UN would (theoretically) aknowledge that due to the universal declaration of human rights? Or was that declaration bigotry according to all the people that voted that this sort of thing cannot be criticised?
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Feb 05, 07 10:29am [+]

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Rape is an offshoot of human sexuality. Sex is part of human nature; it's not endemic to any one culture. The only difference between gang-rape in Pakistan and gang-rape in the United States is the cultural context and societal interpretation. And an article which represents the rape of a single individual is not statistically significant, though assumptions can be made through subjective interpretation and/or more extensive research -- either to prove one's point or to seek the truth.
- That's not to say the manner in which these events manifest themselves aren't deserving of study and consideration. But measurable bias, spoken or unspoken, compromises the integrity and objectivity of this consideration.

In answer to your question, of course rape, murder, theft, greed, dishonesty and so forth can be judged on a general moral spectrum.
by Applerod on Mon Feb 05, 07 6:17pm [+]

"The only difference between gang-rape in Pakistan and gang-rape in the United States is the cultural context and societal interpretation."

So the only difference, is that according to their culture it's acceptable, even encouraged, according to ours it's one of the worst crimes you can commit. I'd say that proves my point. Every culture has evil men, does that culture punish them, or elevate them to a respectable status in society? That is an important difference.

"And an article which represents the rape of a single individual is not statistically significant, though assumptions can be made through subjective interpretation and/or more extensive research -- either to prove one's point or to seek the truth."

This one is an isolated event, and the one I posted prior to it was an isolated event, and the one before that, and so on and so on until you're sick to death of hearing about gang rapes. But when you put all those "isolated events' together you get a trend, and from that you can make certain assumptions.

A nation killing one jew isn't a trend that is statistically significant. If they commit 6 million isolated, unrelated murders then perhaps there is something worth investigating.
by herzog on Tue Feb 06, 07 8:54pm [+]

herzog, you are so right. A trick that some people use to cloud an issue is to isolate incidents so that it becomes difficult to see a pattern.
by forgetmenot on Tue Feb 06, 07 9:05pm [+]






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