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COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes, naive
A foolish idea. The socialist government of Spain must be quite naive. Too much idealism and not enough realism. Terrorist groups such as ETA should not be negotiated with- they are dangerous and cannot be trusted, and do not even deserve the aknowledgement of being negotiated with. Terrorist groups should not be tolerated at all.
By the way, I am sympathetic toward the Basque separatist movement, however, this ETA and its terrorism is plain unacceptable- and it should not be recognised as the leader of the Basque separatist movement- it is an insult to all the non-violent Basque separatists, and is rewarding the terrorists.
cranky- "No, it's naive for gov't to think that war is the answer to everything"
- I agree. Which is why when I imply that Spain should not be negoitating with the terrorists of the Basque independence movement, I am not at all saying there should be no negoitations what so ever. The negotiations should concentrate on the non-violent Basque nationalist parties, as well the grass-roots democratic sovereigntist tendencies in the Basque region.
It is not: A) negotiate with the terrorists or B) no negoitations at all.
There are plenty of other options out there as well.
What is idealistic and lacking in realism is the myth that you can stubbornly ignore realities on the ground when dealing with serious political situations.
It's similar to the Bush Administration's refusal to talk to Iran and Syria because "We don't talk to evil." Then they go on television an lie to the world that they are working toward a diplomatic solution to the problem.
"They are dangerous and cannot be trusted" is an apt description of every government on earth.
He failed to understand that there is more than just one ETA. The core of the organization was dismantled as the top dogs were arrested. However there are smaller groups within ETA, invariably constituted of young people whose parents are arrested, who consider any negociation with Madrid a treason to those who are in jail and to the Basque cause. These lads get the street training (called kale borroka) which gives them a sense of chain of command and internal organization.
HE was a bit naive, yes but at least he tried ro reach a peaceful solution through peaceful means. The Partido Popular on the other hand tried to use ETA (they lied about the al-qaeda blasts in Madrid) to win the elections...that tells a lot about their moral fiber.
You talk to who has the power to make a deal, otherwise you are just posturing.
cranky- I believe that the moderates should be given preferential treatment. This is what helps to make them significant. Terrorists should be ignored. It is the non-violent separatists and democratic self-determination for the Basque nation that should have preference. Such a method has the capability of working. Associating terrorists as the leaders of the separatist movement is not the right way.
By the way, the so-called cease-fire with ETA? They really couldn't be trusted. They broke the cease-fire agreement, didn't they?
Voted : Yes, naive
Quite naive. It makes no sense and obviously won't work, so as socialists I'm sure they'll stick with it until the bitter end.
"It makes no sense and obviously won't work, so...I'm sure they'll stick with it until the bitter end."
That sounds exactly like the approach Bush and his neocon mentors are using in the Iraq War and the so-called War on Terror. And there is no doubt they will stick with it until the bitter end. On to Iran Mighty Neocons!
Or, should I say: "Send others to fight in Iran, Mighty Neocons!"
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