WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO INTEGRATE MUSLIMS INTO EUROPEAN SOCIETIES?

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WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO INTEGRATE MUSLIMS INTO EUROPEAN SOCIETIES?


[+] serious ballot by xxxxxxxx
created Sat Feb 10, 07

A softer stance: more affirmative action, legally enforced sensitivity, welfare, patience and so on
Through a tougher stance- complete expectation of respect for European freedoms and rights
Muslims in Europe should feel no need to integrate into European societies
Deportation for those who won't integrate
Have classes and groups for them to move the process along
Why do it in the first?


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"The mass immigration of Muslims to Europe was an unintended consequence of post-World War II guest-worker programs. Backed by friendly politicians and sympathetic judges, foreign workers, who were supposed to stay temporarily, benefited from family reunification programs and became permanent. Successive waves of immigrants formed a sea of descendants. Today, Muslims constitute the majority of immigrants in most western European countries, including Belgium, France, Germany, and the Netherlands, and the largest single component of the immigrant population in the United Kingdom. Exact numbers are hard to come by because Western censuses rarely ask respondents about their faith. But it is estimated that between 15 and 20 million Muslims now call Europe home and make up four to five percent of its total population. (Muslims in the United States probably do not exceed 3 million, accounting for less than two percent of the total population.) France has the largest proportion of Muslims (seven to ten percent of its total population), followed by the Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and Italy. Given continued immigration and high Muslim fertility rates, the National Intelligence Council projects that Europe's Muslim population will double by 2025.

Unlike their U.S. counterparts, who entered a gigantic country built on immigration, most Muslim newcomers to western Europe started arriving only after World War II, crowding into small, culturally homogenous nations. Their influx was a new phenomenon for many host states and often unwelcome. Meanwhile, North African immigrants retained powerful attachments to their native cultures. So unlike American Muslims, who are geographically diffuse, ethnically fragmented, and generally well off, Europe's Muslims gather in bleak enclaves with their compatriots: Algerians in France, Moroccans in Spain, Turks in Germany, and Pakistanis in the United Kingdom.

The footprint of Muslim immigrants in Europe is already more visible than that of the Hispanic population in the United States. Unlike the jumble of nationalities that make up the American Latino community, the Muslims of western Europe are likely to be distinct, cohesive, and bitter. In Europe, host countries that never learned to integrate newcomers collide with immigrants exceptionally retentive of their ways, producing a variant of what the French scholar Olivier Roy calls "globalized Islam": militant Islamic resentment at Western dominance, anti-imperialism exalted by revivalism.

As the French academic Gilles Kepel acknowledges, "neither the blood spilled by Muslims from North Africa fighting in French uniforms during both world wars nor the sweat of migrant laborers, living under deplorable living conditions, who rebuilt France (and Europe) for a pittance after 1945, has made their children ... full fellow citizens." Small wonder, then, that a radical leader of the Union of Islamic Organizations of France, a group associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, curses his new homeland: "Oh sweet France! Are you astonished that so many of your children commune in a stinging naal bou la France (fuck France), and damn your Fathers?"

As a consequence of demography, history, ideology, and policy, western Europe now plays host to often disconsolate Muslim offspring, who are its citizens in name but not culturally or socially. In a fit of absentmindedness, during which its academics discoursed on the obsolescence of the nation-state, western Europe acquired not a colonial empire but something of an internal colony, whose numbers are roughly equivalent to the population of Syria. Many of its members are willing to integrate and try to climb Europe's steep social ladder. But many younger Muslims reject the minority status to which their parents acquiesced. A volatile mix of European nativism and immigrant dissidence challenges what the Danish sociologist Ole Waever calls "societal security," or national cohesion. To make matters worse, the very isolation of these diaspora communities obscures their inner workings, allowing mujahideen to fundraise, prepare, and recruit for jihad with a freedom available in few Muslim countries.

As these conditions developed in the late 1990s, even liberal segments of the European public began to have second thoughts about immigration. Many were galled by their governments' failure to reduce or even identify the sources of insécurité (a French code word for the combination of vandalism, delinquency, and hate crimes stemming from Muslim immigrant enclaves). The state appeared unable to regulate the entry of immigrants, and society seemed unwilling to integrate them. In some cases, the backlash was xenophobic and racist; in others, it was a reaction against policymakers captivated by a multiculturalist dream of diverse communities living in harmony, offering oppressed nationalities marked compassion and remedial benefits. By 2002, electoral rebellion over the issue of immigration was threatening the party systems of Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, and the Netherlands. The Dutch were so incensed by the 2002 assassination of Pim Fortuyn, a gay anti-immigration politician, that mainstream parties adopted much of the victim's program. In the United Kingdom this spring, the Tories not only joined the ruling Labour Party in embracing sweeping immigration restrictions, such as tightened procedures for asylum and family reunification (both regularly abused throughout Europe) and a computerized exit-entry system like the new U.S. Visitor and Immigration Status Indicator Technology program; they also campaigned for numerical caps on immigrants. With the Muslim headscarf controversy raging in France, talk about the connection between asylum abuse and terrorism rising in the United Kingdom, an immigration dispute threatening to tear Belgium apart, and the Dutch outrage over the van Gogh killing, western Europe may now be reaching a tipping point."

(Source: 'Europe's Angry Muslims', from the prestigious Foreign Affairs)
by xxxxxxxx on Sat Feb 10, 07 8:38am [+]

Voted : Through a tougher stance- complete expectation of respect for European freedoms and rights
The soft approach seems to have been a little bit naive. A harder line must be taken to make it clear that there are values on freedoms and rights that should be respected.
by xxxxxxxx on Sat Feb 10, 07 8:39am [+]

Voted : Through a tougher stance- complete expectation of respect for European freedoms and rights
Make it clear that while their religion will be tolerated, as all are, they must meet western standards in regards to respecting the rights of others, tolerating other religions, and not abusing their women.

They should limit immigration until those already in europe have assimilated. And they should respond to any terrorism, rioting, or radical religious leaders decisively and quickly.
by herzog on Sat Feb 10, 07 8:41am [+]

Europe has (had?) something worth preserving, hopefully they'll figure that out before it's too late. You don't make the barbarians love you by tearing down the walls and throwing parades in their honor.
by herzog on Sat Feb 10, 07 8:42am [+]

Integrate muslims? The only way this is possible is by cremating their evil intolerant asses & using their body fat as a green alternative to oil - integration at it's most ultimate!
by SmoothDiamond on Sat Feb 10, 07 10:04am [+]

^ Just being funny, i didnt mean that, i'm not a nazi
by SmoothDiamond on Sat Feb 10, 07 10:25am [+]

^ no need to apologize, son: we understand how you feel!
by aplmac on Sat Feb 10, 07 12:40pm [+]

SmoothDiamond- I hope that was supposed to be a joke. If so, it wasn't a very funny one. Even as a joke that is insensitive and unacceptable.
by xxxxxxxx on Sun Feb 11, 07 8:28am [+]






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