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It's funny, as amnesty from death Navajo warriors were forced to use their language to help these white soldiers save the Jews. If anyone puts a reason like to defend from foreign invaders, the only best example is the War of 1812 when Canada defended itself from U.S.A, and we burnt down the original white house, n'yah n'yah!
It'd be nice to see some real estate imbursements for all the land we get to watch every race freeload on still without our permission like we were never here. Native Americans and First Nations of Canada will have our day, black people are having theirs, we will too.
"we will too" Cept for you. You'll be too busy posting drivel on this site.
Hah, once in a blue moon asshole, I come and go as I please on this site, so Fuck You, I was here when it was still in the thousands. And I just pop up with new experienced information to share when I want. If you want to know my success story just ask, I'm doing a lot better at becoming something more for my people than you know anything about Geronimo asshole! so ask away bitch!
You better respond before I don't come back for another couple of years.
Actually, I can think of a few wars that have been worth fighting, and a alot more that havn't. World War II was worth fighting, but unfortuantely the victory came to late to prevent the genocide.
*Where were those cowboy Americans to save the native people from* Hmmm, As I recall, American Cowboys, or the Cavalry never aimed to genocide the Native American Indians. Native Americans are compensated out the ass for the privatization of the land by our ancestors, Land indian culture believes you do not own. Native Americans believe, "No man owned any part of the earth, and a man could not sell what he did not own." And, "The earth is the mother of all people, and all people should have equal rights upon it." And, "The Earth Does Not Belong To Man; It Is Man That Belongs To The Earth" And, "No tribe has the right to sell, even to each other, much less to strangers ... Sell a country? Why not sell the air, the great sea, as well as the earth? Didn't the Great Spirit make them all for the use of his children?" So Native Americans Believed they didn't own the land, yet then contradict this by claiming that the land belongs to the indian and the white man stole it? You rant that that indians were genocide when decendants of every original tribe that was in North America since the Anasazi walked the land still live today. I'm sorry my friend, but your claim of genocide is nonsense and white man simply claimed what indians believed could not be owned. So quit the propaganda and live in the real world.
So white people, then, had rights to do what they did to the Native Americans? Methinks the problem the Native Americans had with white settlers was not so much that they were settling the land they lived on, but forcing them off of it. I'd be pretty mad too. Arguing that modern-day Native Americans are in no place to complain because their ancestors didn't believe in the ownership of land seems a bit ridiculous to me. Whether intentionally via force of arms or unintentionally via diseases, American Indians were practically wiped out. Millions of people died, and thousands of cultures are gone forever. Nobody deserves this.
Look, I'm not saying we did right about it. I'm saying that the indians didn't lay claim to the land and believed it was meant for every one. White people didn't just come guns a blazing. The indians were unwilling to allow settlers when the settlers began claiming ownership of the land and tensions became blood shed when the two cultures mingled. Then the American Government attempted to segregate the Native Peoples, which lead to further blood shed. We didn't steal the land. And we pay out the ass to the tribes every year, so BS ballots like this are unnecessary.
"I'm sorry my friend, but your claim of genocide is nonsense and white man simply claimed what indians believed could not be owned." Amer-indians suffered horrifically and their belief that nobody owned the land does not justify the brutal treatment they were dealt,not by a long shot.
"World War 2 was the only war worth fighting for, to save a race from being exterminated." Nope,saving a "race" is not justification for sending OUR boys and girls off to a foreign land to die.
World War 2 was not fought to save the Jews and others from the Holocaust. That was a distant secondary consideration of the allies. Removing the Nazis from occupied land and toppling the Nazi regime were primary. passive: " decendants of every original tribe that was in North America since the Anasazi walked the land still live today" This is not true. I can only provide... well at least several hundred examples to prove you wrong. I'm also interested in how you became a spokesman for Native Americans. Members of my tribe have never heard of you. The quotes you provide (claimed to be from Chief Seattle) are false. Hoaxes. Never said. They were written by Ted Perry, the screenwriter for Home, a 1972 film about ecology. The others are most surely fake as well. White settlers did slaughter Native Americans wholesale. For example, I'm wondering how a pre-conquest population of 25 million Native Americans in the central Mexico region was reduced to about 250,000 by the 17th century. Did space aliens take them away? I can provide numerous other examples. Do some homework.
So, You are claiming white man genocide the American Indian FFLSD? Yet, Here you are, to make the claim. Amazing. Are you back from the dead?
Then do you deny that the Native American population likely went from millions to thousands in a matter of centuries? Like I said before, I doubt European settlers orginally came with the intent of killing off/forcing out entire populations. Gradually, though, that became the intention, especially as colonial footholds began to expand. Like it or not, whether intentional or not, European settlement of the Americas directly led to the depopulation of their original inhabitants.
Let me ask you this : You homestead and settle a farm in Oregon and you feel safe because the Native populations seem friendly enough. However, after a year, maybe two, you find that the Native Populations have set up camp on the back forty and are killing your live stock (Buffulo) and consumming it as if it were wild game. The Indians are simply doing what they've done for centuries but suddenly you approach them and explain that the land is privately owned and the live stock belongs to you. You tell them they need to leave your land and pay for the animals they've killed. They respond that the land belongs to no man and it is the right of their tribes to live anywhere they choose and eat the harvest provided by the Great Spirit, just as you. They refuse to leave your land and continue to kill your livestock. Bear in mind that it is the indian belief that you have the same right to live on the land as they do. But you see it as a trespass. What do you do?
No man owned any part of the earth, and a man could not sell what he did not own. Chief Joseph The earth is the mother of all people, and all people should have equal rights upon it Chief Joseph No tribe has the right to sell, even to each other, much less to strangers ... Sell a country? Why not sell the air, the great sea, as well as the earth? Didn't the Great Spirit make them all for the use of his children? Tecumseh Now by this we make friends and put away all bad feelings if we ever had any. We are the friends of the Americans. All the Indians are of the same mind. We look upon you as our Father. We will never change our minds, but since you have been to see us we will be always the same. Now! Now, do you send this paper.16 These are the only words of Chief Seattle recorded in the official record. www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1985/spring/chief-seattle.html
I'm wondering how a pre-conquest population of 25 million Native Americans in the central Mexico region was reduced to about 250,000 by the 17th century. Always some spin huh Fiddle? We are not talking about central Mexico here, are we? I swear to God the is about North American Natives, Not Aztecs or Incas. Spanish Conquistadors conquered the incas. Not my ancestors. There are tribes that are scattered, and are not represented or own reservation land, but they are not genocide or extinct. Their descendents live today amongst us. The quotes you provide (claimed to be from Chief Seattle) are false. Only one of the quotes are alleged to be of Chief Seattle. and the rest are documented in the National Archives. And I'm not a spokeman for the Indians. I'm a spokesman for defending myself from propagandized accusations that some how I'm responsible for the plight of all the poor unfortunate descendeants of the Native Americans wanting revenge on the white race. Quit whinning about it and get over it. It wasn't the fault of those of us living in the US today and I'm tired of getting dumped on by a bunch of damn cry babies. Understand this : I DIDN'T DO IT! So quit bitching about it.
Hahahaha, passiveson you moron, you could tell me everything the white man wants you to know about Native American/whiteman history. It's all bullshit, the truth of interactions of First Nations, French and British goes a little more deep than you think. The Spaniards have their share in bloodshed destroying the Incans and Aztecs in search of gold. In fact wasn't finding the New World all about finding more precious stone and gems for wealth, too bad these natives occupated this land already. Good thing natives didn't understand English for quite awhile, otherwise the generation that ended up allowing the white man to stay could've told them to Fuck Off! I could get into this all day but it's a covered history that even today the white man doesn't want brought up. And the identity of native people today is ridiculed with savagery jokes and bead selling and casino and alcoholism jokes. Like our whole culture could be summed up in feathers, drums, and tipi's. Well if you want the real story of our peoples tragedy, just look into it. I'm outties though, and will check this site out in awhile. I'll let some other native guy chew your klansmen-like ass passiveson.
I guess I should have checked back. Seriously, Whatever.
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