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LEGAL MINDS : SCALPER'S SEARCH ENGINE - LEGALLY LIABLE?

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LEGAL MINDS : SCALPER'S SEARCH ENGINE - LEGALLY LIABLE?


[+] serious ballot by LCD
ACTIVE Sat Mar 10, 07 - Sun Mar 09, 08

Suppose you run a search engine that lists prices for tickets that are selling for over their listed values.

Now, known as scalping, it's illegal and punishable in most states. (Funny how "Ticketmasters" can get away with doing what they are doing)

But as a "search engine" listing the prices of tickets being sold by scalpers, are you guilty by association, or are you okay legally, and be assured that you won't get prosecuted?

We have some brilliant legal minds here. I appreciate your input.

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Voted : Not Guilty
Providing the site get's no commissions and doesn't profit.

You are simply providing a tool to law enforcement to catch those who do profit.
by passiveson on Sat Mar 10, 07 7:57pm [+]

Ticket Masters buys under a distributors license as a wholesaler and retails the tickets at a regulated markup. They can't legally resell a ticket below advanced purchase price or the box office price and they pay all applicable taxes.

Scalping is illegal because the transactions are not subjected to taxation and often times scalpers exploit selling out a show then resells the tickets at super inflated prices.
by passiveson on Sat Mar 10, 07 8:13pm [+]

Voted : Guilty
Replace tickets with crack rocks. The pigs would throw that person in jail quicker than the IRS would seize his assets.
by thc2883 on Sun Mar 11, 07 4:49am [+]

A search EEngine is not selling Crack Rock, and they're not Selling Tickets either. So What is the Charge you're guilty of?
by passiveson on Sun Mar 11, 07 8:27am [+]

Voted : Guilty
As I don't know of any federal law on this, I think it's going to depend 100% on your state law, and what the statutes are and how court decisions in Arizona have interpreted these statutes. I know that, in some states, if you are abetting criminal activities online, you may be criminally liable yourself. However, I don't know the law for Arizona, so best look at this.
by Felix on Sun Mar 11, 07 10:01am [+]

Abetting criminal activities online requires more than simply compiling information already published online and scripting a list of web links for reference. For instance, as previously cited, if you earn commissions on any sales, engage in transactions or charge the "source (scalping) sites" for preferential listing, basically, anything beyond selling legitimate ad space to licensed companies, to generate revenue, then you're breaking the law.


Hmmm, let's consider sites that publish receipes for manufacturing controlled substances, directories of equipment suppliers, State law advisories, legal defense strategies and alternatives to obtain illicit materials (pharmacuticals, organics, chemicals and hacking utilities).

And what of the sites that advertise or sell components and instructions for constructing explosives, directs and refers to foreign companies selling illicit firearms and weapons prohibited by US Law. As long as you do not engage in constructing bombs, selling bombs, or distributing illegal weapons personally, you can publish anything you want (especially if it's already published on the internet).

You can even go so far as selling the company's catalog, technical manuals and supporting documents.

No, I'm sorry, it doesn't constitute Abetting. You may draw the attention of Federal agencies, but become subject to investigation, but the first ammendment and forth ammendment gives you the right to publish them on electronic media.
by passiveson on Sun Mar 11, 07 11:46am [+]

These sites come from a dog pile search for Unlicensed and unsanctioned ticket sales.

www.ticketliquidator.com/selltickets.aspx
www.stubhub.com/
www.frontrowtickets.com/
www.ticketzoom.com/

A search for classified ads selling tickets produced : All Search Engines 1 - 40 of 106 results.

Now, is dog pile and all the search engines on the net breaking the law?

How about Stubhub and hoohasit?
by passiveson on Sun Mar 11, 07 12:20pm [+]

Some laws state that you must be x distance away from the stadium (or so the police officer told me). Yeah, I was burned once 012.
by ClosetIguana on Sun Mar 11, 07 5:43pm [+]

Voted : Not Guilty
Everybody's got to make a living I guess...
by Psycho_Frighead on Tue Jan 29, 08 4:02pm [+]

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