EUTHANASIA: PRACTICAL SOLUTION TO AN IMPRACTICAL CONDITIONS?

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EUTHANASIA: PRACTICAL SOLUTION TO AN IMPRACTICAL CONDITIONS?


[+] serious ballot by passiveson
ACTIVE Sun Mar 18, 07 - Tue Mar 17, 09

Inspired By Nessary_Evil's Ballot 113162, and The Censure of My Comment By A Self Appointed Nemesis, TheNewGirl. Apologize for the Graphic, I believe it's necessary to make the point.

(CNN) -- Dutch health officials are considering guidelines doctors could follow for euthanizing terminally ill people "with no free will," including children, the severely mentally retarded and patients in irreversible comas.

Netherlands was the first country to legalize euthanasia -- ending the life of someone suffering from a terminal illness or an incurable condition, with their approval.

In recent years there also have been reports of mercy killings of terminally ill babies, and officials at one hospital say a number have been carried out there.

The Royal Dutch Medical Association (KNMG) has asked the Netherlands Ministry of Health to create an independent board to evaluate euthanasia cases for each category of people "with no free will."

Doctors now follow legal standards regarding euthanasia, or assisted suicide, for patients who are able to make such a decision on their own.

Under the rules established by KNMG and the Dutch courts, the patient's decision must be freely made, well-considered and persistent; there must be unbearable suffering; and the attending physician should consult with a colleague.

There are no official guidelines for ending the lives of those who are unable to make their own decision, such as in the case of a baby, but Groningen Academic Hospital has conducted such procedures under its own, internal guidelines.

Dr. Eduard Verhagen, clinical director of the hospital's pediatric clinic, told NPR in an interview that the babies who had been euthanized were born with incurable conditions that were so serious "(we) felt that the most humane course would be to allow the child to die and even actively assist them with their death."

"They are very rare cases of extreme suffering. In these cases, the diagnosis was extreme spina bifada."

That disorder is marked by incomplete development of the brain, spinal cord and/or their protective coverings.

Because the procedure was not legal, Verhagen said, the hospital preferred that cases be assessed by a committee of experts. The Dutch parliament legalized euthanasia for adults in 2002.

"What we would like to happen here in Holland is that we put the spotlight on these decisions because they need to be extremely secure, and instead of taking these positions in a kind of gray area, we want them to be in the spotlight," the doctor said.

Eric Van Yijlick, project manager for SCEN (Support and Consultation on Euthanasia in the Netherlands), said the Groningen cases involving newborns should be referred to as "life ending without request" rather than euthanasia, because that term indicates the dying party has requested the procedure.

Van Yijlick said that to his knowledge, the killing of newborns is not common -- just a few cases yearly. No official statistics exist on terminally ill children's lives being terminated, he said.

Is Euthanasia A Practical Solution To An Impractical Condition?

Yes, It's Humane and Moral
No, That's Playing God
Maybe


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COMMENTS:
Take a Second Look at that Baby before answering.
by passiveson on Sun Mar 18, 07 4:43pm [+]

What exactly am I looking at in that picture?
by ThisIsNate on Sun Mar 18, 07 7:00pm [+]

It's a baby born that way, with no brain, I saw it once and tried to forget it.
No one should be left to suffer or lay around senseless and helpless for too long. The fact that we can save anyone from it now makes it pure Evil not to help them. Either that or all medicine is unholy and we should stop taking asperin, treating cancer or getting vaccinated.
by Jyl on Sun Mar 18, 07 7:28pm [+]

Christ, the poor little bastard :(

Surely proof that God either doesnt exist, or is a sick twisted f**k?
by Doctordraw on Mon Mar 19, 07 3:24am [+]

My friend, Don't blame God for the tweeker bitches and the toxic waste dumps.
by passiveson on Mon Mar 19, 07 5:57am [+]

God can and should be blamed for the actions of his inventions.
by Doctordraw on Mon Mar 19, 07 7:34am [+]

If that's true, Then it should be a recognized defense in court and no one should be imprisoned, don't ya think?
Or maybe we should just blame everything on the devil too. Why should people be held accountable for anything?
by passiveson on Mon Mar 19, 07 9:35am [+]

The devil didnt create human beings, God did. He also created the devil in the first place I might mention at this junction.

Now lets go through this. The Biblical/Christian God (and the "GOD" of most other major religions) is fundamentally OMNISCIENT and OMNIPOTENT. Essentailly there are no limitations to his power, throguh time and space.

Hence, when God created humans, he created them KNOWING which ones would be rapists and which would be murderers and that some would eat babies and that some, a lot less, would be good people.

If God is omniscient and omnipotent, then he foresaw every bad act committed by man from the beginning, and still chose to create his abominations. Gofd also created the Devil, knowing the trobule he would cause.

God is even punishing the entire human race for a crime he KNEW Adam and Eve would commit from the very beginning of time.

Either this is true, or God is not all powerful, and intuitively God is imperfect, meaning God can make mistakes. A virtually all powerful being that can make mistakes? Thats a scary thought for me.

So, God is either a sick fuck, or an imperfect being.

Or, as all evidence to date suggets, there simply IS NO God.
by Doctordraw on Mon Mar 19, 07 10:24am [+]

To address your specific response in light of my previous comment;


"If that's true, Then it should be a recognized defense in court and no one should be imprisoned, don't ya think?
Or maybe we should just blame everything on the devil too. Why should people be held accountable for anything?"

If its true that a biblical God exists then yes, it probably should be a recognised defence in court.

However, he almost certainly doesnt, so it isnt.
by Doctordraw on Mon Mar 19, 07 10:28am [+]

So, God is either a sick fuck, or an imperfect being.

Well, I know he does exist and the latter is true.
by passiveson on Mon Mar 19, 07 11:43am [+]

BTW Doc, I appreciate your insights.
by passiveson on Mon Mar 19, 07 11:44am [+]

How do you KNOW he exists though? For arguments sake?
by Doctordraw on Mon Mar 19, 07 1:45pm [+]

Develop an understanding of the definitions of Spirit, from that, isolate what spirits actually are and focus on how spirits operate in the real world.

Get back to me in PM if you want a precise interpretation. The Block I had on you has been removed.
by passiveson on Mon Mar 19, 07 2:27pm [+]

Voted : Yes, It's Humane and Moral
The total no-brainer answer has got to be Yes ... Hold on, I think I should rephrase that.
by britvic55 on Mon Mar 19, 07 2:43pm [+]

Voted : Maybe
Killing someone to save them a lifetime of extreme, hopeless suffering is not necessarily a dishonorable act.


^Did the parents who let this child live do the right thing? Not in my opinion; but it's hard to say categorically that they did the wrong thing.
by Applerod on Tue Mar 20, 07 12:35am [+]

That is exactly my point when I voted on Necessary_Evils ballot. But a certain user felt compelled to ridicule my answer. I just don't get it. That's why I created the Join The Club ballot. If there is an issue, they should post it there.
by passiveson on Tue Mar 20, 07 12:46am [+]

YES, euthanasia is the solution. Come on, if the person can't speak or move or live a normal life, why keep them stranded in bed suffering, while their family and friends suffer for them? They have the right to die and stop suffering.
by Cynical7 on Sat Jul 12, 08 6:37pm [+]






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