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IS THE DEHUMANISATION OF THE ISLAMIC CULTURE ANY DIFFERENT TO...


[+] serious ballot by quirk99
ACTIVE Sun Apr 29, 07 - Mon Apr 28, 08

The german dehumanising of the jews?

Before anyone starts with the "but the jews dont blow themselves up and kill people" rhetoric, be aware that the jews did just that in the first world war.

For anyone who doesnt know the story here it goes.

Before the first world war germany was one of the few, if not only, countries that would accept jews. The UK certainly didnt want jews living there. During the second world war britain even used jews to get information and then abandoned them (another story) But the jews betrated this trust in ww1 by revealing many sectrets to the us which inevitably brought them into the war. So for 30 years the jews lived in germany even though they brought down the collapse of germany. Hence its not hard to imagine someone like hitler emerging to lead the country. (if you dont believe this then I dont really care, a bit of research will show you the truth. Its not a conspiracy its fact)

But the real question remains. Is it possible that we are in the middle of another example of dehumanising to the point of mass murder?

No, its different cause but not effect
Yes, and im going to explain why
WTF are you talking about??? Comparison is totally invalid!!!!


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COMMENTS:
Dehumanization is dehumanization is WRONG.
by Truthseeker013 on Sun Apr 29, 07 4:28pm [+]

^ Indeed
by quirk99 on Sun Apr 29, 07 4:30pm [+]

( Before anyone starts with the "but the jews dont blow themselves up and kill people" rhetoric, be aware that the jews did just that in the first world war. )

True, Israel was founded by the actions of zionist terrorist groups. They killed a lot of innocent people.
by Daughter_of_Khitai on Sun Apr 29, 07 4:48pm [+]

^yeah its called exodus
by quirk99 on Sun Apr 29, 07 5:13pm [+]

Voted : WTF are you talking about??? Comparison is totally invalid!!!!
Where in the world do you draw this comparison? This is utterly ridiculous.

What Muslims are being systematically rounded up and shipped off to concentration camps to be slaughtered by millions? What countries are doing this?

You are so completely ignorant, you are trying to race bait people with your anti semitism.
by jappy on Sun Apr 29, 07 5:16pm [+]

I would say it's more about dehumanizing muslims themselves by focusing on cultural extremes and repeatedly broadcasting these events over and over.It has a bewitching effect on the less informed,intentionally.

A well balanced system of checks and balances is a precious thing.By design we have a system of checks through executive,judicial and legislative branches.In reality checks and balance includes not just-

*executive

*legislative

*judicial

but also

*corporate/financial institutions

*communication/media

*voter


The system is badly skewed because the corporate/financial component also controls the communications/media component who in turn have sway over the voter who in turn have power over the executive and legislative.Ifamericansonly knew provides some solid evidence of how slanted the corporate media is.
by robotthinker on Sun Apr 29, 07 5:20pm [+]

^and so we produce a jappy.

Tho this is a specific question. Irrelevent but still it got a response. But the answer is still yes.
by quirk99 on Sun Apr 29, 07 5:48pm [+]

as in yes its the same. as opposed to no it's no different. :D
by quirk99 on Sun Apr 29, 07 5:49pm [+]

Voted : No, its different cause but not effect
I don't think there should be a bias against a large group of people.
by skylab on Sun Apr 29, 07 5:59pm [+]

^agreed
by quirk99 on Sun Apr 29, 07 6:18pm [+]

jappy will you please stop using your aliases to agree with you, nob head
by quirk99 on Sun Apr 29, 07 6:18pm [+]

Voted : WTF are you talking about??? Comparison is totally invalid!!!!
You mean like you debase and ridicule people who adhere to a religous faith?

I clearly recall you stating that religous fundamentalists should be wipe off the face of the earth, Hitler.
by passiveson on Sun Apr 29, 07 6:41pm [+]

who do i ridcule? as fpr fundamentalists?.. i think if we could wipe them out in one go thats a good thing. flood or something.

by quirk99 on Sun Apr 29, 07 6:59pm [+]

"who do i ridcule?"

Anyone can claim to believe in god. Thats the beauty of it. really stupid people can believe because they dont need to prove they know anything about it.
by passiveson on Sun Apr 29, 07 9:59pm [+]

(yeah its called exodus
by quirk99 on Sun Apr 29, 07 8:13pm)

No it's called Terrorism, you know by Terrorist Groups, such as Irgun. Zionist terrorism, blowing things up, killing innocent people, that kind of thing. Israel's founding zionist leaders were all terrorists.
by Daughter_of_Khitai on Sun Apr 29, 07 11:34pm [+]

Voted : Yes, and im going to explain why
Yes, there are strong similarities here. How many times have you heard ignorant rednecks howling that we should "nuck the towelheads," "nuke the A-rabs," "nuke the Middle East," etc.

Ethnic bigotry is all pretty much alike, and once it has spun out of control, the end result is likely to be similar, also.
by cranky on Mon Apr 30, 07 6:52am [+]

Voted : WTF are you talking about??? Comparison is totally invalid!!!!
You see in Nazi Germany, even before the 'final solution' Jews were forbidden from owning radios, etc, etc. There signs on pubilc benches that said 'not for Jews', there were direct references to race and national identity and that Jews could never be 'German'. Jews were explicitly labeled inferior, there were laws saying they had less property rights, explicitly less right to business, etc.

Is this happening to Muslims now? No. Rather French editors are being fired for allowing publication of silly cartoons critical of Islam. So your comparison is nonsensical.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Apr 30, 07 7:43am [+]

(there were direct references to race and national identity and that Jews could never be 'German'. Jews were explicitly labeled inferior, there were laws saying they had less property rights, explicitly less right to business, etc.

Is this happening to Muslims now?
by Socrates on Mon Apr 30, 07 10:43am)

Some of that is. See how often anyone supporting Islam is called un-american or other derogatory types of segregation comments by the USA's media, and the way some people are treating Muslims. The police and many authorities in western countries seem to behave with the attitude that all muslims are potential terrorists who have to prove themselves innocent. If they have dark skin and get on a plane, and start praying in Arabic they could be arrested and imprisoned for a couple of weeks. If some neighbor makes an accussation of terrorist associations, a muslim man might very eaily be "disappeared" into some CIA-run torture prison in a foreign country.
by Daughter_of_Khitai on Mon Apr 30, 07 8:54am [+]

Its funny, that bit about bringing down Germany must have missed the tens of thousands of jews who fought for Germany in World War One...
by Chomsky on Mon Apr 30, 07 9:58am [+]

Voted : WTF are you talking about??? Comparison is totally invalid!!!!
"but the jews dont blow themselves up and kill people" rhetoric, be aware that the jews did just that in the first world war"

Another BLATANT example of lovelynice/DOK's insanity. Just when I think you can't be any more stupid than I already think you are, you come up with another idiotic comment like that.

There is no comparison as Jappy and socrates have explained. Really... some of you need to crack open a history book once in a while.
by TinCan on Mon Apr 30, 07 3:52pm [+]

Daughter- "Islam is called un-american"

- No, more specifically, it is Wahhabism that is labelled un-American, and deservedly so. Not all Muslims or interpretations of Islam are Wahhabist, so it is not Islam as a whole that is being segregated. Most American Muslims themselves are against the likes of Wahhabism. It deserves to be ideologically criticised and alienated.
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Apr 30, 07 11:54pm [+]

"If they have dark skin and get on a plane, and start praying in Arabic they could be arrested and imprisoned for a couple of weeks."

- And you have an actual example of this strange new theory?
by xxxxxxxx on Mon Apr 30, 07 11:56pm [+]

("but the jews dont blow themselves up and kill people" rhetoric, be aware that the jews did just that in the first world war"
by TinCan on Mon Apr 30, 07 6:52pm)

That's YOU idiot taking someone else's comment and trying to pretend that I said it. I didn't. The other person's post was deleted.
by Daughter_of_Khitai on Sat May 05, 07 9:58am [+]

(No, more specifically, it is Wahhabism that is labelled un-American
by Socrates on Tue May 01, 07 2:54am)

That's not the entire truth and you know it, so you're deliberately misrepresenting the reality there. Islam as a whole is being treated as Un-American, even when the Islamic people themselves are American citizens. The racism and religious hatred being preached against Islam is everywhere in the USA these days.
by Daughter_of_Khitai on Sat May 05, 07 10:01am [+]

(Really... some of you need to crack open a history book once in a while.
by TinCan on Mon Apr 30, 07 6:52pm )

You should. Read up about Jewish terrorists, the bombing of the King David Hotel, and the massacres of Palestinian villagers.
by Daughter_of_Khitai on Sat May 05, 07 10:02am [+]

("If they have dark skin and get on a plane, and start praying in Arabic they could be arrested and imprisoned for a couple of weeks."

- And you have an actual example of this strange new theory?
by Socrates on Tue May 01, 07 2:56am)

Not a "theory", reality! That's the sort of thing that really happens. It's in the news. Read it sometime.
by Daughter_of_Khitai on Sat May 05, 07 10:04am [+]

can you explain to me again in what way the jews brought down germany?
by Chomsky on Tue May 08, 07 3:20am [+]

^ they brought america into the fight. even tho these were jews living in germany under its protection at the time. Bit of a shitty thing to do considering no other european country would let jews in.
by quirk99 on Sun Dec 16, 07 9:04am [+]

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