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Are you sure it's Conspiracy Theorists? Maybe someone else is using their account. Cia? FBI, LCD? Log out immediately and be very careful.
Ah. I take responsibility for many of lovelynice's down-voted comments, but that has nothing to do with her conspiracy claims about Sept 11th.
It's because she's a black-hearted bitch, a Japanese war crimes apologist who kept trying to play down the inhumanity of her forebears during WWII, arguing over the numbers of people murdered in the notorious Rape of Nangking, etc. As if the numbers matter, hah.
I don't know why people get into it that much. Sometimes people disagree, and that's to be expected.
( It's because she's a black-hearted bitch, a Japanese war crimes apologist -
by ramaDUNG on Wed May 02, 07 5:16pm)
I disagree, she's not any of those things. You act like a racist, and you always did harass her in a racist manner
Rating down comments until they are karma blocked seems to be a favorite tactic of people like wideheadofknowledge and FiddleFaddleOnLSD. Worse, people like RamaDUNG, wideheadofknowledge, and FiddleFaddleOnLSD like to use racist insults, derogatory epithets like anti-semite, nazi, etc whenever they can't support their claims with logical argument or evidence.
We've cited evidence which you just keep on either ignoring, avoiding, or can't counter.
Apart from myself, evidence has been cited against the Bush Administration's lies about 9-11 by Ken from Dublin, Lovelynice, Coldcircuit, Meteor7, have already cited aerial photos, video, and the hard evidence of the thermate traces discovered by Steven Jones.
Professor Steven Jones and his X-ray spectrometry evidence from samples taken at the WTC site show a perfect match for for the highly specialized compound "thermate" (used for cutting through steel) found in the WTC debris. (And no, thermate was NOT used during the clean up operation...this stuff was in the building, and ignited, prior to collapse.) If you're new to this information, you might want to check out "Molten Metal" and "Fire Initiated Collapse - Primary Arguments Against"
stopthelie . com / the _ evidence _is _ in . ht ml
You should also look up Steven Jones lecture on the subject which is available on video.
You have been claiming that evidence collected by thousands of people is not admissible only because it goes against the 9-11 story promoted by the Bush Administration. You've tried to dismiss for no reason at all, evidence from physicists such as Steven Jones. You've tried to dismiss for no reason at all witness testimonies which disagree with the official version, and you've also tried to dismiss for no reason at all video evidence of the explosions which are visible taking out the floors in those beautiful long perfect lines well below the collapsing debris falling from above. You've tried to dismiss for no reason at all witness testimony that the first explosions (decribed as huge booms) that triggered collapse in the twin towers began not at the impact point of the planes, but well below by 3-5 floors.
You also ignore the
135 Architects and Engineers who don't believe the Bush Administration's lies.
ae911truth . org
Another 170+ Engineers who don't believe the Bush Administration's lies.
patriotsquestion911 . com / engineers
50+ Pilots and Aviation professionals who don't believe the Bush Administration's lies.
patriotsquestion911 . com / pilots
140+ Professors who don't believe the Bush Administration's lies.
patriotsquestion911 . com / professors
On your side of the fence,
So far you have a lack of credible DNA evidence from an independent analysis, and no evidence of DNA from Arab hijackers. NONE. If a huge passenger jet really hit the Pentagon, then there would videos of it. There have been none publicly released. The bodies found at the Pentagon could easily be Pentagon staff. The DNA evidence is not convincing because it has not been independently verifiable. Btw, on ballot 101154, you were asked to support your claim that all the victims from the Pentagon crash were identified by their DNA - that would include orphans, and individuals with no living relatives. When you were asked to support this claim of yours, you never did. Instead you ran away and avoided the question. How about backing your claims with links, quotes, and sources as per what is required. Your word alone in not enough.
So far, there has been almost no wreckage which fits the alleged cricumstances nor the planes which that wreckage is claimed to come from. The plane parts are minuscule, minimal, and could easily have been from another aircraft. Many of the engine parts are from the wrong kind of engine - a similar case with the engine parts from the World Trade Center crashes.
The black box recorders were not independently analysed either, and worse, there is evidence of tampering as the times are wrong.
The passenger lists do not match up, and the different versions contradict each other.They include obviously fictional names that sound similar.
The airfone calls become less credible because the cellphone calls were impossible, making the airfone calls suspicious. It's too easy to fake a phone call. For example, the notorious "Hi Mom, it's me" scam.
Expert eyewitness testimony also says those were controlled demolitions.
Lack of independent and full investigation - there has never been a full and proper independent investigation into 9-11 despite the demands of the survivors and victims relatives to this very day. Scientific investigations have not yet simulated the collapses themselves while being based only on the empirical data, nor have any mathematical or computer simulations shown there was enough energy for the gravitational collapse.
You've shown no evidence connecting Arab hijackers to 9-11. You've shown no links between Osama bin Laden and 9-11, and the FBI deny that they have found any such links. The only videos where Osama bin Laden allegedly "claims credit" for 9-11 all appear to be fakes, and go against what he said already back in 2001
“The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons. I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders’ rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations.”
—Usama bin Laden (Saudi Arabian), CNN News, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001
"I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other human beings as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people."
—Usama Bin Laden, Ummat magazine, September 28, 2001
I'm sure you will say he lied, but I could easily turn it around and say he lied when you say he confessed. I've seen the so-called confession tape, and it does not appear to be bin Laden. To me it appears to be a an imposter in the video I've seen. There have also been studies done on the bin Laden video and audio tapes, concluding that they were faked. And as of today, it's the FBI who confessesthey don't have any "hard evidence" linking him to 9/11.
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