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IS IT MORE PATRIOTIC TO LIVE FOR A CAUSE, OR TO DIE FOR THAT CAUSE?

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IS IT MORE PATRIOTIC TO LIVE FOR A CAUSE, OR TO DIE FOR THAT CAUSE?


[+] serious ballot by contragrain
ACTIVE Sun May 06, 07 - Mon May 05, 08

Just a question. Reestablishing some basic, core beliefs. Certainly someone who poses a threat to our own life must be apprehended, or removed completely. But, what about giving up our own lives "for a cause." If we go into the thing planning to die, isn't that, in most cases, a bit foolhardy?; and, in the most extreme cases, one might say it represents an act of cowardice, as we never planned to come back and make account for what we did in the first place.
Isn't it true that Living for a cause is far more patriotic than Dying for that cause? What's worse is that so many HAVE NO CAUSE at all.

Yes, you're right.
No, you're not right.
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COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes, you're right.
Especially if you have a family then i think dying for any cause is stupid. You should always come first in your life, and your family. Fight for yourself and for your family, that's the way i see it (if you have to fight at all) i don't see why people have to fight anyway...
by socal_sweetie on Sun May 06, 07 1:47am [+]

Voted : other, see comment
I don't know. John Brown died (and killed) for a cause. The cause was a good one, the abolition of slavery. So he and his band killed 5 pro-slavery people at Pottowatomie Creek, Kansas. And Brown died in his suicidal raid on an arsonal at Harpers Ferry, VA. I think people who were willing to die (and kill) for a cause got much more respect in that otherwise backward day and age than now. For better and worse. I don't agree with what the old man did, at least not entirely. But he was brave, if homocidal.
by skylab on Sun May 06, 07 2:34am [+]

"one might say it represents an act of cowardice"

I disagree. Indeed, I think it requires such stupendous bravery as to only be undertaken by the most desperate, or possibly insane/brainwashed of individuals (think suicide bombers).
by kingAlfredTheGreat on Sun May 06, 07 5:33am [+]

Voted : Yes, you're right.
You die for the cause only as a *last resort*.
by Truthseeker013 on Sun May 06, 07 10:06am [+]

Voted : other, see comment
Better to 'Live on your Knees' or to 'Die on your Feet'?
by spanky on Sun May 06, 07 12:01pm [+]

^spank, yep. I agree. But, "living on your knees" doesn't fit my description of "living;" it's only existing. Too bad some die for a cause without ever having "lived" at all.
by contragrain on Sun May 06, 07 1:45pm [+]

^and, if you don't like being a 'doormat;' then get off the freakin' floor.
by contragrain on Sun May 06, 07 1:47pm [+]

What greater sacrifice can you make, but to give your own life?
by kingAlfredTheGreat on Sun May 06, 07 4:15pm [+]

Voted : Yes, you're right.
IF death is your first answer then you place no value on life. If death is your last resort but something you are willing to give, then you place a great value on life - your own and the lives of others.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Sun May 06, 07 4:31pm [+]

kag, when you quoted me, you left out the important adjectival phrase, "in the most extreme cases" (an important qualifier, if you know what I mean)
by contragrain on Sun May 06, 07 10:58pm [+]

It really depends on what the cause is and what the context is.
by Applerod on Mon May 07, 07 6:21am [+]

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