COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes
Supporting the troops means caring about our fellow citizens, about our young men and women, without regard for the justness (or lack of) of their cause. Soldiers may be poorly led, but they are still OUR soldiers.
Voted : No
I've always kept the two mutually exclusive in my head, because I could support the War if it were just, while I can support the troops for doing their sworn duty, even in an unjust cause.
Voted : Yes
The troops are just doing what politicians tell them to do, so why not put the blame where it belongs?
Voted : No
Its not possible to support both, it is because the war is based on a lie and that lie is killing the Troops I care deeply for and support... BTW, execllent ballot question RG...
There is some confusion caused by the ballot title here. It should have read "Can you support the troops and NOT support the war in Iraq?"
Do those of you who oppose the war in Iraq, still support our troops? Ballot #111277
Voted : Yes
The problem is that you fail to see the good that is being done there. Remember this term: "1000 to 1"
What good is being done there Jappy? What? This President lied about invading Iraq, Troops are dying and continue to die because of that lie, not to mention returning back to the states physically and psychologically f*cked up... Now, maybe you believe that BS, which it is your right to think so, however, while so call good is being done there, America is going to sh*t in the process...
1,000 to 1. 1,000 Iraqis are dying for each American.
Jappy, you fail to see the evil. I suspect you've danced with the devil so long you no longer recognize evil.
Voted : Yes
The United States is helping with nation-building, consolidating democracy, and attempting to help stop the cruel attacks of insurgents against the Iraqi people. Calling that pointless seems a bit strange. But of course one can support the such roles of the troops jobs in Iraq while simultaneously supporting the troops. It is not difficult to understand this concept. Can one support firefighters and the risky act of fighting fires? Yes, of course one can do that.
Soc- This war has cost us billions, killed our soldiers and Iraqis, crippled our military and increased terrorism worldwide. Simply granting the Iraqi's the right to govern themselves without our interference would take us miles ahead of where we are. The war has failed because it was executed by incompetent leaders and there is no way to steal a nations oil without violence. Asking them to die needlessly is not supporting them.
^ and lets not forget we wouldn't be nation building (or should i say haliburton wouldn't be nation building) if we hadn't gone in there and blew it all up. on a lie. let's not forget that part. a lie. as for the insurgents, come one socrates, there wouldn't be insurgents if we hadn't gone in and screwed it all up. on a lie. let's not forget the lie part. right champ?
Robin - "The war has failed because it was executed by incompetent leaders and there is no way to steal a nations oil without violence. Asking them to die needlessly is not supporting them." - Incompetent leaders? Bush was elected and then re-elected. The US should elect someone better next time. Stealing oil? Show me evidence of this. And buying oil does not count as 'stealing' it. "This war has cost us billions, killed our soldiers and Iraqis, crippled our military and increased terrorism worldwide. Simply granting the Iraqi's the right to govern themselves without our interference would take us miles ahead of where we are." - Yes, it is costly, difficult, and will require a long-term commitment.
kev- "^ and lets not forget we wouldn't be nation building (or should i say haliburton wouldn't be nation building) if we hadn't gone in there and blew it all up." - Yes, Iraq is in even more need of nation-building because of the war. All the more reason why the US cannot withdraw- it broke it, now it has to fix it and take part in a nation-building project. "on a lie. let's not forget that part. a lie." - I opposed the Iraq war from the beginning, and saw the lies as obvious. However, I am increasingly feeling that a pull-out now would be most inappropriate. "as for the insurgents, come one socrates, there wouldn't be insurgents if we hadn't gone in and screwed it all up." - It is true that the regime of Hussein did a good job of oppressing opposition and enforcing brutal methods to force national unity. However, the idea that the Saddam regime is gone is still a good thing. Both the insurgents and Saddam stood in the way of any Iraqi democracy.
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