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"JERUSALEM" JOE LIEBERMAN: "I SEE PROGRESS (IN IRAQ)." TROOPS DISAGREE.

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"JERUSALEM" JOE LIEBERMAN: "I SEE PROGRESS (IN IRAQ)." TROOPS DISAGREE.


[+] serious ballot by cranky
ACTIVE Fri Jun 01, 07 - Wed Feb 24, 10

Lieberman Confronted By Troops In Iraq: ‘When Are We Going To Get Out Of Here?’

Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) made an unannounced trip to Iraq today, telling reporters, “what I see here today is progress, significant progress.” Hours later, he was confronted by U.S. soldiers with a very different message: “We don’t feel like we’re making any progress.”

McClatchy reports tonight on Spc. David Williams, who collected questions for Lieberman from 30 other troops.

At the top of his note card was the question he got from nearly every one of his fellow soldiers:

“When are we going to get out of here?”

The rest was a laundry list. When would they have upgraded Humvees that could withstand the armor-penetrating weapons that U.S. officials claim are from Iran? When could they have body armor that was better in hot weather?

Williams missed six months of his girlfriend’s pregnancy when he was given six days’ notice to return to Iraq for his second tour. He also missed his baby boy’s birth. Three weeks ago, he went home and saw his first child.

“He looks just like me,” he said. “I didn’t want to come back. . . . We’re waiting to get blown up.”

Next to him, Spc. Will Hedin, 21, of Chester, Conn., thought about what he was going to say.

“We’re not making any progress,” Hedin said, as he recalled a comrade who was shot by a sniper last week. “It just seems like we drive around and wait to get shot at. … It’s just more troops, more targets.”

In the past two months, the unit has lost two men. In May alone, at least 120 U.S. troops died in Iraq, the bloodiest month in 2007 and the highest number since the battles of Fallujah in 2004.

Spc. Kevin Krasco, 20, of Medford, Mass., and Spc. Kevin Adams, 20, of Moosup, Conn., chimed in with their dismay before turning the conversation to baseball.

“It’s like everything else in this war,” Adams said, referring to Baghdad. “It hasn’t changed.”

Later, Lieberman walked in to see the soldiers “wearing a pair of sunglasses newly purchased from an Iraqi market that the military had taken him to in southeast Baghdad.” In response to their questions about leaving Iraq, Lieberman said it would be a “victory for al-Qaida and a victory for Iran.” (Think Progress)

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Who is right? Are we making progress in Iraq, like Jersualem Joe says, or are the troops right, that we aren't making progress?

Jerusalem Joe is right
The troops are right
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COMMENTS:
I think it was stupid to go in without a plan
by aya on Fri Jun 01, 07 11:04am [+]

Voted : The troops are right
joe lieberman is a mouthpiece for a certain special interest lobby. he's no democrat or liberal -- he's a sell out. the man's so out of touch with reality. he should be drive from office.
by Kev24 on Fri Jun 01, 07 11:08am [+]

Voted : The troops are right
Welcome back cranky I'm glad to see you still like to throw around racially charged lanuage.Why must you always bring up Liberman's ethnicity when you talk about him?

Anyway Liberman is dead wrong about this war,there has been very little progress made.
by Corrupt on Fri Jun 01, 07 11:13am [+]

Joe has made it clear, by his actions, which nation is at the top of his priority list, and how much he is willing to sacrice in American lives and money to support that nation.
by cranky on Fri Jun 01, 07 11:45am [+]

Voted : The troops are right
The guy loses in the primary election last year and the tribe still finds a way to get him elected. Amazing.
by _Beelzebubba on Fri Jun 01, 07 12:00pm [+]

Voted : The troops are right
Call me stupid, but I'll take the word of the people who live there, as opposed to that of someone who pops in from time to time for a fast visit.
by Truthseeker013 on Fri Jun 01, 07 1:47pm [+]

In that photo, Joe looks like Mr. Magoo.
by cranky on Fri Jun 01, 07 3:55pm [+]

^ doh! he does look like mr. magoo. only difference is, mr. magoo was a hell of a lot smarter than jerusalem joe lieberman.

and if joe lieberman is saying they're making "great progress" in iraq, obviously he's got even worse vision than mr. magoo had.
by Kev24 on Fri Jun 01, 07 5:07pm [+]

Voted : The troops are right
Listen to the troops...
by thesoothsayer on Fri Jun 01, 07 5:38pm [+]

Joe is wrong not because of his religion but because he is wrong.
by skylab on Fri Jun 01, 07 6:37pm [+]

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