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Voted : Put the disclaimer on your ballots that only votes with comments count
Sounds like the best solution to me.
Voted : Put the disclaimer on your ballots that only votes with comments count
It's probably the best route for right now. This way, the disclaimer sort of negates any potential vote spamming.
Voted : Who gives a crap if a ballot is vote spammed
"The Yes choice was wiped, in order for the ballot to reflect the true results. I happen to suppor that."
You support wiping a choice because you suspect it was vote spammed? Thats pathetic. Were you the one who wiped it? Of course, no ultra-user will admit to it.
So, who made you judge, jury and executioner? Its some "mysterious" ultra-user's right to wipe a choice because they don't like it?
In case you didn't know, other websites have linked to ballots on here. Here is a perfect example: Which major American political party is the most racist?
ballot #74816
Some users have outside websites that link to here as well. SFLibra was one. But wait. Patch the judge thinks the vote totals aren't accurate so now its ok to disenfranchise everyone who voted for the choice. Face it patch, you support wiping it because you didn't like that choice. You also didn't like the fact that the yes votes were winning. I'm sure you wouldn't have wiped a pro-palestinian choice even if it was spammed.
Its obvious to me that if a ballot gets 100 or more votes a day that it has been linked to by an outside website. There aren't even 100 users plus their aliases active on this site.
Your proposals are ridiculous and pointless. First 4 items. Who cares? Why do you care?
No guest votes? Great way to attract outside visitors. I know of one ballot of mine specifically that draws users in from google. Oh shit, with your proposal they won't be able to vote and will never come back. Now only 20 people will vote on a ballot. Same applies for votes only with a comment. Glad that didn't apply when I first came across this site. I would have been gone as quickly as I came here. Who cares how long a ballot is up? I'm glad I could vote more than once on the "Do girls poop?" ballot #19203
As I said before. I don't give a rat's ass if someone votes multiple times on my ballots. I'm glad they enjoy them. I'm glad some idiots vote multiple times. I have the second most popular ballot right now. I don't get my panties in a bunch because I'm sure some users have voted 100 times on it. Its not a "real" election. Its just some dumb ballot on a website that lots of idiots and ass-clowns visit. What irks me is when some "mysterious" "unnamed" self-righteous ultra-user decides without any proof and without asking the ballot maker first that they should wipe a choice because they "think" it was spammed. I know that this was done - for a FACT. Odd, isn't that although there were several hundred votes for "no" you, I mean someone didn't wipe that choice.
Hey patch, I've seen dozens and dozens of ballots where the pro-Israel choice was losing and according to your "logic" the ballot was being spammed. Even if I could, I wouldn't wipe it. Who gives a shit.
YAY! No guests can vote! The website dies! What a moronic choice.
Oh wait. I mean I have to comment to vote on a joke ballot? That's idiotic. That is soooo workable. You will see 10 votes or less on almost every ballot.
No wonder this website is almost totally down the toilet.
yeah I noticed that too.
I am thinking that I should express the vote results by registered users and guest users in separate chart, since registered users are limited to voting once per name.
then the cheating choice will become pretty obvious.
by LCD on Tue Jun 12, 07 9:21pm
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"blah blah blah ... No wonder this website is almost totally down the toilet."
and I wonder why you care so much about a website almost down the toilet.
a tip for ya: a little subtlety goes a looong way.
by LCD on Tue Jun 12, 07 9:27pm
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I'll be honest and tell you a story about how I found this website. I did a search in a google on comedian. Somehow it linked here to a ballot. I liked the ballot and voted several times for my choice. So shoot me. I stacked the votes. But I also stayed and registered and I think added a lot to this site. I have voted several times on other ballots like certain unnamed users did on herzog's ballots. Its obvious when the typical ballot gets maybe 15 votes in a day and one of his would get 50 with the votes heavily tilted towards the ridiculous barbaric choice. Often by accident. Some times on purpose (never 600 times like a certain user named cranky think I did on one ballot) and certainly never in one day). And I REALLY DOUBT THAT I AM THE ONLY ONE. And I expect any pro-Israel choice to lose on every ballot because this site is full of leftists and ass-clowns like lovelynice. If its winning, it isn't my doing. I have even voted for the sabotage choice on my own ballots multiple times to make it win. Why? Because its fun. Its fun to vote. You know... CNN, MSNBC, and other news sites let you vote on polls now. The don't ask for your license and ID number. They always say "Note: This poll is not scientific and reflects the opinions of only those Internet users who have chosen to participate. The results cannot be assumed to represent public opinion."
In other words... its not real, its just entertainment. How about keeping it fun. Like I said... if someone votes 500 times on a ballot of mine I don't care. If it bothers me enough I close it. I don't delete the choice. The voting on this website is not real nor do I ever pretend it is. Do what you want LCD. Its your website. I just think that you are and have been making this website less fun. That's my opinion. And certain ultra-users appear to have free reign to delete legitimate ORIGINAL choices selected by the ballot maker. At least cathexis was too PC to do anything at all.
So who wiped the choice? Tell us. And why do I care? Of course because its unfair, but also because I know certain ultra-users have done this before anonymously. In fact to ballot choices I have entered. Of course, the most rabidly anti-semitic hate choice alway stay. Or the cut and pastes nazi website comments.
You know... that ballot maker didn't care about how the totals were going. What did piss them off is that "someone" (tell us who is was patch or fess up to it) who won't fess up, wiped the choice. But even though the ballotmaker didn't care, in your self-righteous judgment it was "justified". I know why you care. Because you get rabid when any pro-Israel choice is entered (especially if it is winning) and even those NOT ON YOUR OWN BALLOTS pisses you off to no end. Your hate becomes you.
You owe the ballot maker an apology. It wasn't even your f*cking ballot.
So, if the ballot maker doesn't care, then why do you care patch? What gives you the right to trash and sabotage their ballot or at the minimum defend whoever did??? Tell us. Or is your reasoning the same as when you wiped a perfectly legitimate ballot choice I entered on another ballot (once again not your own)? (In other words, you hate Israel, so you wiped my choice).
Odd isn't that you think it is ok to wipe a choice on a ballot about Israel that you in YOUR judgment think was spammed, but you have never did on ken_from_dublin's or blackcat06's 9/11 ballots even though the votes were obviously spammed. Why the difference... Never mind. I know why. Its obvious. Plain as day.
i don't think it was a good idea to wipe a choice because it was being spammed, because by doing so you hid the attempt at spamming. I suggest that you don't do it in the future.
at the same time, FFLSD, answer this. in the years on this website, have you ever complained about someone spamming votes on ballots YOU cared about??
by LCD on Tue Jun 12, 07 11:09pm
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Oh one last thing. Were the results of that ballot more accurate when the "no" votes had 98% of the votes? Of course NO ONE spammed the "no" votes did they patch? Odd isn't it that you think the "yes" was spammed but your beloved "no" wasn't. Odd isn't it.... one side is obviously spammed and the other isn't... yeah sure. It shows your true bias.
Voted : Who gives a crap if a ballot is vote spammed
I overall agree with FiddleFaddleOnLSD. I just dont understand why he's expressing his point of view with so much hostility.
Fiddlefaddle, you're entitled to your opinion, but I really don't care much for your agressive tone and hostility. It's not a crime to disagree with someone and it's not the end of the world if a choice was removed or if a ballot has vote spamming, but there's no reason either why we can't address it all camly. Thanks for your comments though.
"Face it patch, you support wiping it because you didn't like that choice. You also didn't like the fact that the yes votes were winning. I'm sure you wouldn't have wiped a pro-palestinian choice even if it was spammed. "
Fiddlefaddle, that is outrageous and very rude. You are WRONG! First of all, it is very odd that all of a sudden, that same ballot now has several hundred yes votes in only a few days. Dont' insult our intelligence. Furthermore, YOU complained non-stop when results were things YOU did not like and you accused several members of vote spamming.
Secondly, do not presume to know how I feel or how I would act. Your insesent need to attack anyone and everyone because you believe they are Anti Semetic or whatever, is really very wrong. I would suggest you stop lashing out like this.
Fiddlefaddle, I see you have added me to your ignore list. Obviously, you feel you are justified in going on one of your irrational attacks.
Do you have any idea at how hypocritical you are acting? You complain about everyone and everything. It's pretty clear that you only want the rules to apply when they suit you.
It's is very sad that you had to turn this ballot into such a hostile environment. You want to ignore me? Fine, since that tells me you're irrational and not thinking straight, so it's better we ignore each other.
Voted : Put the disclaimer on your ballots that only votes with comments count
^^^^ What the Wise Michigan Grad said.
'You will see 10 votes or less on almost every ballot' Lol, that's kinda what we're seeing already.
But, Fiddle, more importantly, Do girls poop? You didn't give us the answer.
Voted : Put the disclaimer on your ballots that only votes with comments count
strange the question caused so much hostility.
by Jyl on Wed Jun 13, 07 6:42am
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Face it, FiddleFaddle. Everybody knows you're the obsessed vote spammer who has been hammering every Israel and Jimmy Carter-related ballot.
Who do you think you're kidding?
You're busted.
Now go sit in the corner.
wtf? someone is need of a good enema. dude eat more bran if you're having trouble pulling that fucking stick out of your ass -- maybe you can crap it out. don't be a total tool faddleman.
Voted : Jimmy Carter
 Vote often!
Voted : Put the disclaimer on your ballots that only votes with comments count
Question: how many people are going to back and look at these ballots? I mean, I'm not saying vote spamming is right or anything but even ballots that were made a couple of months ago get forgotten due to the number of new ballots every day.
Why are people obsessed enough to do stuff like that, anyway?
"Face it, FiddleFaddle. Everybody knows you're the obsessed vote spammer who has been hammering every Israel and Jimmy Carter-related ballot."
Yeah Jimmy cranky Carter and you aren't. You accuse everyone who disagrees with you as being a racist.
Tell me how when after I added the choice back on that particular ballot that it gained around 600 votes in a matter of hours in one day. Tell me where those votes came from. There aren't 600 users here. I obviously did not vote spam the ballot.
You are irrational cranky. You accused me of voting around 600 times on beelzebub's worst president ballot. First when I added your beloved Jimmy Carter to the ballot you stomped your feet and cried like a little school girl. You then accuse me of voting for him repeatedly, then when its obvious that isn't the case then you accused me of somehow voting for all the other choices. That's just ignorant and idiotic. The others were good choices some from the ballot maker and some I added. But I guess it was all part of my conspiracy that Idi Amin and Mahmoud Amadjihad and a couple of others were the runaway leaders. I was voting several hundred times for them. You are just stupid. You run around ranting about a user doing one thing and when its obvious they aren't then you accuse them of something else. You are just obsessed and paranoid.
Why the hostility? Because Patch has done this before. He has wiped a ballot choice of mine that was perfectly legitimate simply because he didn't like it. I'm quite sure he did it this time as well. Then he tries to rationalize it to fit his agenda. Odd isn't it that while patch wiped the "yes" choice, he never added it back. So when I looked at the ballot it was about 98% "no" 2% "comment". The intent was NOT to correct for spamming. It was to bias it the other way. If it had the other choice would have been added back. Also, why does someone care so much as to delete a winning choice on a ballot that isn't even their own? And I'll add... against the ballot maker's wishes. It ought to be up to the ballot maker what to do, not some self-righteous judge with an agenda. No one asked the ballot maker did they?
Have I complained about ballot spamming before? Yes, but I have never wiped a choice on someone else's ballot in retaliation.
Well FiddleFaddle, you have alot of nerve. One, you opt to add me to your ignore list, yet you have the audacity to continue to participate on my ballot.
Secondly, you accuse Cranky of accusing everyone of being a racist, yet you yourself accuse everyone of being an Anti-Semite or a Nazi. So really, it's very hypocritical of you to do that.
Third, the choice of yours I wiped, I TOLD you about it and thought you added it as a "spam" choice. You added it right back since...I TOLD YOU ABOUT IT!
And on that note, how dare you say I wiped your choice and make such an spectacle of yourself about this issue, when YOU have asked me numerous times to wipe comment, ballots AND choices of other users, simply because YOU did not agree with them. Are you made because I never did?
Stop trying to deflect this back onto me and please stop with the hysterical accusations of bias. You are one of the most biased people on here. To you, anyone who dares to speak of Israel is an Anti-Semite. That's really nervey of you, considering I bet living in NYC, I have WAY more Jewish friends than you...and you're NOT even really Jewish! How come it is that they NEVER say I'm Anti-Semetic? How come they, born Jewish, have NO issue criticizing Israel, but you do?
Please go away. You're really crossed the line here and it is unacceptable that you are trying to make this about me in your usual rage...rages that you have subjected me to for the last time.
You vote spammed and you got caught. Deal with it and stop trying to deflect.
"So when I looked at the ballot it was about 98% "no" 2% "comment". The intent was NOT to correct for spamming. It was to bias it the other way."
What a load of crap! You were "watching the ballot" as you stated not because you just wanted to...it was because YOU were vote rigging it and all of us noticed it! I mean you expect us all to believe that you just happened to be watching a months old ballot that mysteriously had so many yes votes that just kept appering daily? And now...explain why after only a few days, there are now hundreds of yes votes again? Stop making yourself look bad.
"You accuse everyone who disagrees with you as being a racist."
No, I don't. The only person I regularly accused of being a racist was Phony Boy, your Kool-Aid Guru, and he was one. I've never accused you of being a racist, even though we disagree on almost everything.
"Tell me how when after I added the choice back on that particular ballot that it gained around 600 votes in a matter of hours in one day. Tell me where those votes came from. There aren't 600 users here."
Obviously, you came on and vote spammed it, again. It only took one user, not 600.
You are the only one who is claiming that it is impossible to vote spam. Clearly, some people have been vote spamming from day one. Remember those ballots about who the all-time greatest singer that always had hundreds of votes for Tom Jones? Or the ballots where Meles Zenawi got hundreds of votes?
So, Fiddle, why don't you share the secret with us, of how to vote spam?
"You are irrational cranky. You accused me of voting around 600 times on beelzebub's worst president ballot."
That's only because you did, vote spammer, Fiddle.
"First when I added your beloved Jimmy Carter to the ballot you stomped your feet and cried like a little school girl."
No, I didn't.
"You then accuse me of voting for him repeatedly,"
Only because you did.
"Also, why does someone care so much as to delete a winning choice on a ballot that isn't even their own? And I'll add... against the ballot maker's wishes. It ought to be up to the ballot maker what to do, not some self-righteous judge with an agenda. No one asked the ballot maker did they?"
Hello!!!!! That was MY ballot. Did I say it was against my wishes? And it wasn't a winning choice any more than Saddam Hussein could be declared the true winner of an Iraqi election.
"I have never wiped a choice on someone else's ballot in retaliation."
I don't think you have the authority to do that, Fiddle.
Face it Fiddle. You're busted. You're a big time vote spammer, and everyone recognizes it now. You won't be able to talk your way out of this one. And attacking Patch won't gain you any sympathy, either.
Fiddle:
And it is incredibly hypocritical to put Patch on your ignore list, while filling up his ballot with blowhard comment after blowhard comment, all full of lies and spin.
And so, all along, you've been asking Patch to delete comments, ballots, and ballot choices, and then then have the incredible nerve to complain about a ballot choice you were vote spamming disappearing? Unbelieveable!
And you are one of the most prejudiced, biased people on B&W. You seem to think that your pseudo-Jewish charade allows you to attack and, if possible, censor anyone who is ever critical of Israel, even in the slightest. Your idiotic crusade against Jimmy Carter makes you look like a total nitwit.
You got caught in a sting operation. Face it: everybody knows you are a vote spammer, Floyd Landis.
Correction: The ballot in question wasn't my ballot, it just seemed like one I would put up.
Here is what is really making me mad. In the other ballot on this same topic, Fiddle wrote "Good comments" and was all nice and normal. ballot #115535
On that same ballot he denied deleting Guest comments and said he only deleted Guest comments made by registered users.
He wrote:
"7. I never approve guest user comments attacking the ballot maker or vicious personal attacks that are obviously made by a registered user. I almost always wipe these as they are a pathetic and cowardly way of attacking another user. This situation rarely occurs to me specifically but often with other users. What I did is no different this time. The guest comment was obviously from a registered user. They should either post it under their ID or approve it themselves (as you did here)."
Not true at all. Secondly, how does he know if a Guest comment he is randomly deleting is by a registered users? Why is his statement of such complete hypocrisy? Because in this very ballot he writes:
"It ought to be up to the ballot maker what to do, not some self-righteous judge with an agenda. No one asked the ballot maker did they?"
So who appointed you judge and jury, as you ask me above? Who made you the decider on whether a Guest comment is by a Registered user or not? How do you know? You don't. The reality is, you have approved Guest comments that were clearly attack comments, as I'm sure your arch nemisis (you know who) will attest. And you have repeatedly deleted Guest comments for no reason other than YOU did not like them. The fact is, I leave them be and let someone else decide if I don't know.
So all of this hostility, when in the ballot listed above, you were all calm and normal. You really created an unneccary mess here.
I think people spam to make it look as if their point of view is the most popular one - as if B&W somehow is a reflection of popular (and political) opinion. Or maybe to control something in their lives where usually they have no control - like anorexics or cutters.
i see that stick is still stuck up there, huh faddleman? 
To watch vote spamming taking place, just watch the front page like some of us are. You'll see them in the Most recent popular and the most recent votes. Old ballots that are supposedly long forgotten mystersiously have a huge amount of activity.
Here is a perfect example of pure bias. Though some would accuse others of bias, they obviously fail to see the log in their own eye. Check this ballot out ballot #106395
Now keep in mind FiddleFaddle calls me biased and freaks out and adds me to his ignore list because the vote scamming is exposed. But lets look at the choices one of his BIASED buddies, Mephisto has added and then you judge why it is that FiddleFaddle would keep this guy as one of his favorites:
100993. This is the most idiotic antisemitic ballot i've ever seen!!!
93951. Hey... anything is better than both Hammas and the dead (thank god) Arafat...
93951. He's a Hypocrite! nice to the Israelis in their faces, but stick knifes in their backs! TERRIBLE!
99377. You can't negotiate fair peace treaty with barbaric uneducated Muslim terrorists!
98582. Lebanon is an extremely corrupted Muslim country... can't support something like that...
100281. The extremist Palestinians will never stop fighting 'till all Israel will become Muslim land...
97123. ISRAEL - Billions of Muslims wants to take over that tiny Jewish land!
106581. There are absolutely No facts in his book! It's all lies.
72076. This is an extremely poor, superficial and pathetic ballot about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict!
72076. When you support terror and hate, this is what you get!
111229. NO, it has NOTHING to do with apartheid.
99014. Humus with Arab pee in it.
58377. The U.S need to suspend only relations with Palestinian terror government!
96504. The big problem is that no one wants the Palestinians! Not Egypt, nor Jordan...
106395. What about all the massacres of Jews by Palestinians before 1948? Arabs started the mess over there!
106395. IT NEVER HAPPENED!!! Those are lies by the Palestinian nasty propaganda!
106338. No, Muslim Palestinians view "non-muslims" as less than Human
66873. Bulgaria
66873. China
66873. Kazakhstan
66873. Syria
66873. Lebanon
66873. Jordan
99406. Wal-Mart is not a country you idiot... it's not even funny!
106581. Carter gets millions of dollars from Muslim leaders to keep his bigoted hateful views about Israel
105258. unless Iran wipes Israel off the map with nuclear weapon first, Israel will win any war!
84074. Jimmy Carter is an idiot... Doesn't matter what he says or thinks!!!
66873. EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM COUNTRY
93898. Tel Aviv - Israel (Still in the Asian continent...).
So who is biased here FiddleFaddle? Get a mirror and take a long, hard look. You might just have an epiphany.
Jesus FiddleFaddle, you're such an anus. No wonder nobody likes you.
No wonder nobody likes you.
by ramaDUNG on Sat Jun 16, 07 6:46am
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hahah, oh my, glass house anyone?
1) I like fiddle
2) He adds beneficial aspects to the website
Let's see if anyone lies.. err, I mean, says that about you rama.
More on being biased. Mephisto adds this choice to the following ballot:
WHICH COUNTRY HAS THE MOST RACIST PEOPLE?
by juggernutz
ACTIVE Aug 04,2006 - Sat Aug 04, 07
Every single Muslim country
19%
This BALLOT CHOICE created by : Mephisto
Submitted on : Nov 21,2006 1:39:57 am
Please consider this: there is no self-righteous indignation by certain individuals over that choice, but there would be if the situation had been reversed. So once again I ask: who are the people that are REALLY biased here?
Why am I not in the slightest surprised that FiddleFaddleOnLSD has been spamming the votes?
Oh what a surprise... that snivelling wretch Loo-tenant Steve is having yet another snipe.
< 1) I like fiddle
No Steve, you like kiddy-fiddling.
< 2) He adds beneficial aspects to the website
No he doesn't. He just whines, like you.
< Let's see if anyone lies.. err, I mean, says that about you rama.
Why the fuck should I care? I don't go round trying to hold everyone's hand like you do, you desperately corny little feeb.
Now, boy, you have my permission to fuck off.
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