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THIS HAS GOT TO STOP NOW

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THIS HAS GOT TO STOP NOW


[+] serious ballot by Cantona
created Sat Jun 30, 07

With yesterdays near car bombing in London and now today"s in Glasgow airport, its time we put our foot down. Time to contact the British Muslim Council, get them involved in stoping all this homegrown terrorist business. If not, then I think its about time we round up all these radical Muslims and give them the boot! Why are these turban heads roaming our streets and causing all sorts of trouble! If they dont like OUR culture then they can bloody leave! Agree?

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If you allow your hatred to draw you to racism then you're on the path to being as bad as they are. There has to be a difference between us and them otherwise none of us are justified in our desire for peace.
by RobinGaylord on Sat Jun 30, 07 12:32pm [+]

Voted : Agree
RobinG, Cantona didn't say he wanted to get rid of all Muslims. He said, "round up all these radical Muslims and give them the boot!" See the difference? RADICAL Muslims!
by Bostonian on Sat Jun 30, 07 12:40pm [+]

^I wasn't calling him a racist, only suggesting that such hatred is dangerous. Such language "Round em all up and..." What? Line them against the wall? Just seems to be going down a dangerous line of thought. Who gets to decide who is a radical? Why not "boot" radical Christians for abortion clinic bombings. I don't think Pat Robinson would blow one up but he is a radical. Why should we let a little thing like common sense stop us from exercising our xenophobia?
Any time someone starts painting with such a broad brush and making suggestions as to what should be done with members of a racial group it's time to start worrying.
by RobinGaylord on Sat Jun 30, 07 1:09pm [+]

In between. I'm glad terrorists were stopped, and I hope this continues. But I hope people don't start to hate anyone wearing a turbin.
by skylab on Sat Jun 30, 07 1:17pm [+]

So far, I've seen or heard nothing to connect this to any Muslim terrorists. If I'm wrong, please pvt msg me and let me know.
by Truthseeker013 on Sat Jun 30, 07 1:37pm [+]

Robin,
They hate us want to kill us all if they could. Getting rid of evil people like that is not a dangerous line of thought. Im not talking about young Ali who supports Man Utd and eats fish and chips! Im talking about Mohammed who lives in a Mosque and preaches day in and day out about killing "infedels" on OUR own streets.
by Cantona on Sat Jun 30, 07 3:11pm [+]

Voted : Disagree
Justice is needed, and justice is not punishing a majority to right the wrongs of a minority. No offence Cantona, but to do you what you suggest would be absolutely foolish, and I will explain why.

1. To do what you suggest is EXACTLY what the terrorist camps in Pakistan want us to do. They want to start a Jihad, a religious war in the west. To achieve this, they would need a catalyst to provoke the Muslim community in Britain to rise up in anger. At the moment, we hold the moral high ground because we are the victims in these atrocious attacks. If we started "rounding up" Muslims we would become the oppressors. This would turn the majority of a vastly law abiding Muslim community against us. Trust me, we would have a guerrilla war in the UK by doing what you suggest.

2. We cannot round up every single Muslim in the country, even if we wanted to. And we cannot keep them out, it would be an impossible task. We simply do not have the man power needed to do what you suggest.

3. Britain stood alone against the might of Nazi Germany for nigh on two years, suffering thousands of deaths and losses, to fight those who would judge a book by its cover. If we do what you suggest, their battle would have been in vein. We would have become like those who we fought sixty years ago.

Trust me, the vast majority of Muslims are normal, law abiding citizens. The vast majority condemn the London bombings, but there are those who take enjoyment at seeing our dead lying still on the street. To solve this situation, we need to stop these young Muslim boys, about the same age as you and me, from becoming brain washed and corrupted. We need to punish those who are to blame severely, justice needs to be given. But it is never right to punish the majority for the crimes of a minority.
by winston on Sat Jun 30, 07 4:36pm [+]

Voted : Agree
100%
by JohnnyReb on Sat Jun 30, 07 4:42pm [+]

Voted : Disagree
"turban heads"?

I don't think that's a good way to start the dialogue.
by LCD on Sat Jun 30, 07 5:12pm [+]

Voted : Agree
I agree we you Cantona but what the hell was with the turban head comments?Muslims don't even wear turbans,those are Sheiks,people who have absolutely nothing to do with radical Islam.It's time for the people of the U.K to step up and defend themselves however it must be done in a rational way.
by Corrupt on Sat Jun 30, 07 5:27pm [+]

^ I agree completely with your assessment Corrupt, especially with the uncall "turban heads" reference...
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Sat Jun 30, 07 6:09pm [+]

I'm just sick of it all. If I want to call them turban heads I bloody well will. Im sick of this PC bullshit! When I see a Muslim lady completly coverd up it offends me, so im calling them turban heads. Big deal. Winston, I see where you are coming from and understand what you said. However, something drastic must be done, or our Great Britain will not be so Great anymore. We need to be like the French, if you dont like it here, go home!
by Cantona on Sat Jun 30, 07 6:51pm [+]

I agree that something needs to be done about the matter. However PC has nothing to do with hateful name calling, it is not appropriate and as Corrupt stated, "Muslims don't even wear turbans,those are Sheiks,people who have absolutely nothing to do with radical Islam."

I have seen the outward and blatant hatred that is spewed by these radical Muslims in Great Britain and it is in deed an ugly sight. However, lets be clear about the turban heads reference, it does not apply to this group.

What is the answer regarding these raical Muslims, I propose that Great Britain and the other countries that are being attacked by these groups to brace yourselves, it will probably get worse before it gets better.

Although, if the U.S. and the other occupiers would get their arses out of ALL the Muslim countries and let them fight their own battles, perhaps that would be a good start, it is a concept that hasn't been tried to date...

BTW, good ballot question, minus the "Turban Heads," reference of cours...
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Sat Jun 30, 07 8:29pm [+]

^ Correction: *course*
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Sat Jun 30, 07 8:31pm [+]

something that isnt "appropriate" b_b_c is telling someone that they should conform to your idea of how to think and speak.
by JohnnyReb on Sat Jun 30, 07 9:11pm [+]

maybe we are offended by you cantona. So what makes you so different from those idiots?

Funny, 3 attempts at bombing and they failed all 3 times. One thing common about haters are that they are usually idiots.

We should encourage them to win the Darwin Awards without hurting everyone else. Maybe CIA operatives can sell them "a nuclear bomb" that blows up early and paint them in bright orange so that we can pick them up easily out of a crowd?
by LCD on Sat Jun 30, 07 9:40pm [+]

Too late. Englands already lost. It's theirs now.
by Les6Hithe6Wins6Again on Sat Jun 30, 07 9:57pm [+]

That is an assumption on your part JR, I don't know how you were able to extract what you did from my response to the ballot and not apply the same to the other responders of this ballot...

BTW: Do try to follow your own advice, for it would be good for you...

I believe England is one of many soft bellies of the world and it will be difficult for them to slay the beast without assistance from the international community...
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Sat Jun 30, 07 11:14pm [+]

Funny how everyone is picking up on my turban comment, I knew that would happen. So I guess none of these Muslims offend you in anyway? That you really dont mind an arab lady walking down the street coverd head to toe. I guess it dosent bother you that places in the country cant fly the union jack becuase it offends muslims. No, your all too busy picking up on a word I said. Thats exactly whats wrong with everyone, too afraid to stand up and say what you feel. Hopeless lot.
by Cantona on Sun Jul 01, 07 12:28am [+]

You are right that something needs to be done Cantona, we cannot go on living in fear in our own country, I just disagree with you on the method. Punish the perpetrators in the most severe manner. Lock up for life Imans who preach violence against Britain, and stop the Bastards that are planning these crimes. We need to take off the velvet glove and flaunt the iron fist when it comes to Pakistan; we can no longer be lenient with their government. We must force them to destroy any terrorist camps, making sure they understand the penalties of harbouring terrorists in their country.
by winston on Sun Jul 01, 07 5:39am [+]

Cantona again I agree with you that G.B should do whatever it takes to defend her citizens,if that means deporting radicals than so be it.
And yes seeing women dressed head to toe with only their eyes showing makes me sick,it's that type of backwardness that is dragging the west down.However you're comment about turban heads was uncalled for and doesn't even make sense.It's like saying " All those yameca wearing radical muslims can go to hell if they don't like Britain."
by Corrupt on Sun Jul 01, 07 10:25am [+]

Voted : Agree
I agree. I know it is only a very small minority that carries out these acts, but the more the news unfolds about what they did in Glasgow, the more I realize that zealots and out of control fundamentalists are a major problem. One guy who drove the car into the airport got out and doused himself with gasoline while punching the air with his fist and yelling out "Allah!" I'm tired of unhappy and disenfranchised people trying to force their views on other people. Why do people have to resort to violence and intimidation because other people don't follow their religion?
by patch22us on Sun Jul 01, 07 10:40am [+]

I also don't think using the term Turban heads is good, but I did read your ballot and know that you mean the radical element that uses violence. I would agree with you even if the ones carrying out the violence were radical Christians or Budhists.
by patch22us on Sun Jul 01, 07 10:41am [+]

Yeah I can agree with that winston. And you patch
by Cantona on Sun Jul 01, 07 11:54am [+]

Voted : Disagree
Wow.

This is the kind of ignorant bullshit that inspires people to want to kill someone.
by wideheadofknowledge on Sun Jul 01, 07 12:55pm [+]

Too late, I think there killing us?
by Cantona on Sun Jul 01, 07 1:58pm [+]

Sure, sure. Scaremonger.

And you think you'll heal any divisions with your ridiculuously childish insult throwing?

Grow up.
by wideheadofknowledge on Sun Jul 01, 07 11:11pm [+]

Can a motherƒu¢ker get a footbath up in this bitch?
by _Beelzebubba on Mon Jul 02, 07 12:19pm [+]

That lump in your throat is your arse widehead, wake up for christ sake.
by Cantona on Mon Jul 02, 07 6:29pm [+]

Voted : Agree
Definatly.
by socal_sweetie on Wed Jul 04, 07 1:31am [+]

It's such a pleasure when people compare disdane and hatred for a completely out of control and murderous religion with the hateful murderous acts done in the name of the religion itself. Shame on you who STILL continue to believe that Muslims are doing what needs to be done to stop the madness. They quite frankly aren't doing anything about it.
by jappy on Thu Jul 05, 07 12:51am [+]

Are you insinuating that the British Muslim Council supports and harbours terrorists?
by wideheadofknowledge on Thu Jul 05, 07 2:40am [+]

we are not doing anything when GW bush turned america into a police state and wiped his ass with the constitution. does that mean we are condoning and helping the terrorists republicans in their endeavour?

Call terrorists terrorists. don't lump people into your stereotypes, and never call them demeaning names.

if I rounded up 100 cantonas and called them names while waterboarding them daily for 5 years without trial, and let's see how many of them turn into terrorists.
by LCD on Fri Jul 06, 07 5:09pm [+]

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