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HOW DO YOU JUDGE SUCCESS?

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HOW DO YOU JUDGE SUCCESS?


[+] serious ballot by Kev24
created Mon Jul 30, 07

how were you raised or how do you raise your kids to define success? we're deep into a very competitive world and the mentality is basically an all or nothing approach to life.

my parents raised us to have a flexible definition of success. in other words, there is the definition of success set by others and then there is one you set for yourself. they don't have to be the same.

so the question is, do you push yourself or your kids to be successful based upon the criteria set by others (society, a school, a sports league, etc.) or, do you teach them or hold yourself to your own set of criteria of what determines success?


i make myself measure success according to rules set by others
i make my children measure success according to rules set by others
i make myself and my children measure success according to rules set by others
i have a flexible definition of success for myself
i have a flexible definition of success for myself and my children


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COMMENTS:
Voted : i have a flexible definition of success for myself
I think that might be me, I don't dream of being a millionaire, I want to have a good job and make decent living , I definitely want kids, so want to be sure I can provide for them, but many of my friends talk about having expensive cars making all sorts of money and such. I don't think look at success that way.
by larrynelmira on Mon Jul 30, 07 3:53pm [+]

^ I don't think or look
by larrynelmira on Mon Jul 30, 07 3:54pm [+]

Voted : i have a flexible definition of success for myself
me too larry. success is what you want it to be, not what someone else tells you it should be. you can give something your best shot, not succeed, but still be a success because at least you tried.
by Kev24 on Mon Jul 30, 07 4:01pm [+]

something wrong with the site, I thought it was me but noticed now that sentences are being cut off.
by larrynelmira on Mon Jul 30, 07 4:03pm [+]

^nevermind, they reappeared
by larrynelmira on Mon Jul 30, 07 4:04pm [+]

Voted : i have a flexible definition of success for myself
I think women percieve success as different then men; in my experience, men look at success more in terms of status and money; women look at it more in terms of quality of life
by aya on Mon Jul 30, 07 4:13pm [+]

^ no, its not just women who do. in my experience at least. i don't think you can apply sterotypes here.
by Kev24 on Mon Jul 30, 07 4:35pm [+]

aya -- do you think they are doing so according to their own definition of success, or is it according to the definition set by society, etc?
by Kev24 on Mon Jul 30, 07 4:38pm [+]

Voted : i have a flexible definition of success for myself
I think success is happiness, if it makes you happy, its successful, mission accomplished.

I have a great family, success

I like the work i do and it pays well, success

I am pretty good at badmington, success

I am horrible at hockey, not a success unless they change the rules, when they do, success
by ABC on Mon Jul 30, 07 7:15pm [+]

Dude, they weren't stereotpyes, just what i have seen.

"aya -- do you think they are doing so according to their own definition of success, or is it according to the definition set by society, etc? "

I suppose it's a socialization factor
by aya on Tue Jul 31, 07 9:19am [+]

Besides, since success is judged through money, generally, it's not surprising that men and women would look at differently
by aya on Tue Jul 31, 07 9:19am [+]

^ but those are sterotypes. it may be your experience, but not mine. i know dads that quit work to stay home with the kids while the wife worked. i know a guy who quit practicing law to be a teacher.

you keep refering to me as "dude" in your replies, which tells me you don't like my challenging. i'm not picking on your replies, just trying to dig deeper. i don't see things as black and white. i don't think everything can be categorized, put in a box, labled and filed away.

consider this comment you made --

"Besides, since success is judged through money, generally, it's not surprising that men and women would look at differently"

it's like giving up and just accepting common stereotypes. what i asked was, how do you judge success. you're telling me what the common sterotype or assumption is and it's already known. so how do you, aya, judg success? do you base the conclusion of whether you are or have been successful on what others set as the determination or what you set for yourself? see the difference?
by Kev24 on Tue Jul 31, 07 4:17pm [+]

Voted : i have a flexible definition of success for myself and my children
Flexible ofcourse but i do force them to do there best...i reward them! you want those Etnies, you better do this or that. You want that new skateboard/whatever it is, you best be on the honer roll...that sort of thing!

Our middle child has the most goals, he's a penny pinching, money hungry and manipulative child, even our finance advisor knows it, he's gotten money from him too, he gets money from everyone, he could get a nun to take off her top!!

This kid is going to make a lot of money someday!

Austen amazes everyone he meets005
by socal_sweetie on Wed Aug 01, 07 11:09am [+]

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