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I see these welfare mama's with their cell phones, gold jewelry, and designer clothes using food stamps to buy their soft drinks and chips. Maybe it's people like this that causes Judge Judy to form the opinions she has of those who live off of government assistance.
Some of my friends parents receive assistance of some sort, they work and they struggle to raise their family, but sometimes things happen and they need help.
Voted : I agree with Judge Judy’s philosophy
it sounds harsh, but I do agree somewhat with that line of thought. and I guarantee you, that I have been poorer than anybody on this website by far, and I didn't collect a penny of welfare.
you asked why you don't see chinese people shopping in your area, in one of your recent ballots. Maybe because of minimum wage they earn, they CANNOT afford to shop?
and yes, they do go without dvd players, cars, cell phones, etc. until they save enough money to start their own businesses. Americans who can speak the language, remain poor and struggle because of the misplaced sense of entitlements, and blame those hard workers when they can't find a job.
As far as public assistance, they should be restricted to the BARE essentials, such as food and rent.
Those who abuse that system (I remember some korean storeowners buying food stamps from people right in front of welfare offices for pennies on the dollar, so they can take that money to buy drugs) should be locked away forever, and all their worldly posession auctioned off to pay into the system.
by LCD on Fri Aug 10, 07 7:03pm
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^ There will always people who will abuse the system, but there are also people like some of my friends parents who fell on hard times.
My great aunt lives in senior citizen subsidized housing, is she suppose to just have table, chair and bed?
Couple users on this site have said they receive government help , should they sell their computer?
I think we have to look at each persons situation separately and not just lump those who abuse with those who really need the help because of circumstances beyond their control, that’s just my opinion
My aunt has a computer, the family put together and bought it for her, I'm not saying someone should take their welfare check and go out and buy dvd players, but if they already have or given to as gifts, that is my point, Judge Judy believe they should sell all of these things
Voted : I agree with Judge Judy’s philosophy
I had to go on welfare many years ago when things got really bad, there was no extra money to buy anything, there wasnt enough to make it through the month, fortunatly for me it was a very short term thing and I was grateful for it.
Now I pay 50,000 a year in taxes and any waste pissis me right off.
by ABC on Fri Aug 10, 07 7:31pm
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Before someone says , instead of buying her a computer, why dont you buy her a house, we're not rich that's why. We help her as much as we can, we offered her to move in with us, but she wants her own place.
on the other hand, when my wife got sick, her disibility pension wouldnt even cover the cost of housing, i am curious how this person could aford it
by ABC on Fri Aug 10, 07 7:34pm
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I think people are missing my point, I doubt if most people on welfare would have money left over to buy electronics, but if they either already had, or given to as a gift.
For every welfare mama as you all call them, you see in the stores with silver and gold,
20 others are home wondering if they will have enough in their food budget to feed clothe their kids that month. People see the ones who abuse the system, they don't notice the ones who don’t'.
I'm not talking about lazy people who just wont work, and I think some of you know that, I'm talking about people for no fault of their own,fell on hard times, are they suppose to live on the prarie?
But, you all have the right to your opinions and views, just as Judge Judy does I suppose
you misunderstand me larry.
what I am saying is that social security and welfare is suppose to cover the bare essential, the minimum standard for anybody living in our community.
outside that, family and community should add to that and help them out of the situation. I am not talking about someone who is sick or elderly who has contributed all their life to the society and now are eligible to a certain level of comfortk, I was talking about lifetime public assistance people.
Now, am I saying that they shouldn't have a computer? absolutely not. That person, in a free society, has a choice. Whatever their spare income, they can choose to spend it as they like. Some people might take 100% of their spare money to buy jewelry and old caddys, that's their progative. Some might use 50% of that money, put it in the bank or pay down debt. some people will take the funds/computer and figure out a way to make money off it.
In a free society people can choose to better themselves (it might be hard as hell, but it is possible) and they can choose to remain in the place, and suffer poverty.
by LCD on Fri Aug 10, 07 8:26pm
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My statement was obviously directed at those who abuse the welfare system. I don't think I even implied that I was lumping everyone into one group. Of course there are many people on different kinds of government assistance who can't work because of their health or other reasons. Unfortunately, it's those welfare mama's that I speak of, who stand out most.
I was in a bad car accident about ten years ago, which put me out of work for six months. I was newly divorced and had no savings, just my monthly child support check which was thankfully enough to pay the rent. I had to apply for food stamps to use for those six months until I could get back to work. The assistance was a life saver, but it was barely enough to get by on.
I know what you guys are saying now , but with Judge Judy, she does lump people and she tells those who are receiving any sort of assistance, from Social Security disability to food stamps, and she has said this, I’m not making it up “sell your DVD player or computer then ask for help.” As with my aunt and many of my friends, if they have such extras, it's because family and friends bought , not that they used their welfare checks to buy.
Voted : She is out of touch with everyday people
I'm sure very opinionated judges get ratings, but her judgment could be better.
Voted : I disagree
In all honesty, Your Honor, your tax dollars helped me to buy the computer on which I'm replying to this.
As for her words in general, I try to ignore the mentally deficient whenever possible. But I will ask her why the filthy rich are buying yachts and enough nose candy to raise the dead. (Full-on rant, gentles. Stay back and you won't get hurt.)
She's from another generation, when the luxuries of today weren't as readily available. Therein lies half her problem. Some of those luxuries, such as DVD players, might be keeping some kid glued to his TV and not in the street, causing trouble. Said kid might even be watching "Lawrence of Arabia" on said DVD player, and coming to an appreciation of film that might turn him into the next David Lean. (Still ranting, I'm all over the map, I know. If this offends, look away.)
Bottom line (but far from the last word)- when this becomes a police state, Her Honor can shut the frell up when it comes to people spending their money as they choose. And, when it does, she still needs to shut the frell up, because I'll be leading the revolution. (censoring self, because the thought presently in my head could result in HomeInsec shining lots of bright lights in my eyes...)
Voted : I disagree
She's a wealthy self righteous judgmental bitch. She's without a clue and is also playing to people's bias and ignorance to gain ratings.
I always find the comments expressed in these ballots and elsewhere amazing and disgusting. There's also more than a little hint of racism involved. Sorry, scissors but we all know what welfare mamas you are talking about.
Let's look at reality for a minute. Welfare payments and social security (for most) fall well below the official federal poverty line. The average person is lucky if they get $500-700 a month. A note about all those welfare mamas having babies. First, it isn't true. They are less likely than the average population to have children. Having another child is likely to result in only $70 more. Can you feed, clothe, house, pay for doctor's visits out of that?
Cellphones. What a bunch of crap. Homeless people can get cellphones. In fact, they are often given them to aid in gaining employment (although some are working but can't afford housing). It can often be cheaper to use a pay as you go cell phone service than old Ma Bell.
I always like the attitudes about "gold" jewelry, clothes, etc. Of course, its easy to stereotype and judge without knowing that facts. Did you examine it to know if it was actually gold? Was it a gift (people have grandparents and other family member)? You can also often find "designer clothes" at Goodwill and other stores. Some people are nice enough to donate good stuff instead of junk. Did they own any of this prior to being on public assistance? Of course, if they match a certain skin color or other station in life, its really easy to bring your own bias, stereotypes and judgmental attitudes to the situation. All of this being done with only the barest superficial knowledge of the situation. RWS, You should know better than to make comments like you did. Contrary to the myth, the turnover is relatively high, over 60% in a year.
Regarding the food issue. What right is it of yours to judge what someone else buys to eat? Does the fact that they are on assistance give you the right to dictate what someone eats. Of course to some of you it does. You are the same ones who would ban people on assistance from having children. What are you going to do? Abort it? FORCE people to use contraception? The other issue with food is the fact that junk or empty calorie food is cheaper than good whole food. The facts are that food stamps don't buy you much. Many people on assistance rely on food banks. Ever wonder why they have food drives at your workplace? That's why. People don't have enough to eat.
LCD quite frankly, the last sentence in your comment makes you sound like you are to the right of the most conservative right-wing neanderthal. "Lifetime" public assistance is a myth. You get pushed off the welfare rolls in two years. Its the law - signed by liberal Bill Clinton. Your idea of the community covering the other things is more than a little unrealistic. With such ignorance of the facts of public assistance, welfare, social security, etc, that are being displayed here it is unlikely that the community would do anything. In fact, that is just the situation. Take a look at the food banks. Look at the real income that a welfare recipient gets. If they get $10-13,000 a year, that is lucky. Can you yourself live on that let alone a family. That is just exactly what we do in this country. Why? Because the republicans, Reagan and others have perpetuated this MYTH about welfare. It has as much to with facts as George W. Bush has brains.
I also take offense to these "I make all this money, work hard, blah blah blah". You know what? Almost all of these people did too and many of them have put more money into the system than you have. You make it sound like you are the victim when you say stuff like that.
I don't believe that someone should sell their every worldly possession if they are on welfare just because some cretin named Judge Judy says so. Welfare is there for a reason. Its in the public interest that the welfare of all be maintained and supported. We don't do this. Liberals blame Bush, but the fact is that they are as responsible as conservatives are. They also don't think that giving people a reasonable standard of living is a good idea. Make those poor bastards suffer so we get one welfare abuser of the rolls.
This is a very sensitive issue with me as I have known many people in this type of situation. When I see this kind of crud spewed about it gets under my skin because it is so wrong and so misinformed. If you are going to attach your name/alias to a comment on this issue, I'm going to after the nonsense that gets posted. I don't care much about hurting your feelings on this issue. I worry about those who are hurt by the attitudes I attack.
Thank you larry. You're the only one who has made consistent sense on this ballot. A true sensitive, compassionate and decent guy.
^I agree with Larry on this one.
Voted : She is out of touch with everyday people
Does anyone remember SocialSecurity75's story? An elderly gentleman who worked hard all his life and followed the rules, then his wife contracted a terrible illness that wiped him out financially before he was left a widower.
He was living in what amounted to a bedsit, couldn't afford his medications (largely because of the new Medicare Plan D and our sick medical / pharma / insurance system), and was forced to go on government assistance -- though it didn't help him much. In fact, this proud man had to beg for what little he got, something that should never, ever have happened in this country that's supposed to be so evolved.
He admitted that he was looking forward to death, which happened shortly after he joined this site.
Judge Judy is out of touch.
by mojo on Sat Aug 11, 07 8:09am
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^yes, I remember him, in fact when I was making this ballot he came to mind, the poorest person on the planet still has dignity and pride, I know if I were ever before her in court, I would be charged with contempt, I could never remain silent when she is giving her unfair judgements.
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