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BUSH INVOKES VIETNAM WAR TO ARGUE AGAINST PULLOUT FROM IRAQ. YOUR THOUGHTS?

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BUSH INVOKES VIETNAM WAR TO ARGUE AGAINST PULLOUT FROM IRAQ. YOUR THOUGHTS?


[+] serious ballot by mojo
created Thu Aug 23, 07


After years of rejecting any comparisons to Vietnam, on Wednesday President Bush invoked the Vietnam War as a way of saying the U.S. must stay the course and not pull out. Reporter Kelly O'Donnell noted that “after years of pushback rejecting the Vietnam-Iraq comparison, today in Kansas City, before the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the President made a turn and embraced his own Vietnam analogy.

Mr. Bush's comments on Wednesday contrast with what he said last year when asked if he saw an Iraq-Vietnam connection. At a June 14, 2006 press conference: “I don't see the parallels.”

"If we were to abandon the Iraqi people, the terrorists would be emboldened, and use their victory to gain new recruits," Bush said in a speech to members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, at their convention in Kansas City, Missouri.

"The tragedy of Vietnam is too large to be contained in one speech," he said.

Bush said that three decades after Washington withdrew from Vietnam, there was a debate about how the country had got into the Vietnam War and how it had left it.

"Whatever your position is on that debate, one unmistakable legacy of Vietnam is that the price of America's withdrawal was paid by millions of innocent citizens whose agonies would add to our vocabulary new terms like 'boat people,' 're-education camps,' and 'killing fields,'" he noted.

Bush said that a terrorist safe haven on the other side of the world could bring death and destruction to the streets of U.S. cities, as demonstrated by the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

He said that unlike in Vietnam, if the United States withdrew its troops from Iraq "before the job is done," the enemy "will follow us home."

"And that is why, for the security of the United States of America, we must defeat them overseas so we do not face them in the United States of America," he said.

So, now Bush is saying the Iraqis (no, wait, I thought the terrorists were Al Qaeda -- never mind) will remembe our track record in Vietnam if we pull out of Iraq, and follow us home??? Huh?

Down the rabbit-hole . . .

Bush is shameless.
Pretzel logic rules, especially when you know you can't be impeached (thank you, Nancy Pelosi).
Invoking Vietnam is obscene in this context.
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COMMENTS:
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by mojo on Thu Aug 23, 07 10:07am [+]

by RunsWithScissors on Thu Aug 23, 07 10:15am [+]

^ lol
by mojo on Thu Aug 23, 07 10:34am [+]

Voted : Bush is shameless.
^lol, that is funny picture, who knows with Bush, nothing he says or does can surprise me
by larrynelmira on Thu Aug 23, 07 10:49am [+]

Voted : Comment
The biggest lesson we learned from Vietnam was that we should not have went in there in the first place...which was bought up to deaf ears...now we are saddled with a gun-ho President who did not heed the lessons of the past and did not adequately prepare for the consequences of the present...I'm just glad we are fighting against a "inept" force, if you spend a trillion dollars and this is all you have to show for it, against a competent foe, we would be in deep trouble with this kind of leadership...these people even cherry pick analogies to make a point. they must really think the American people are stupid, and to top it off, in spite of all the polls, how the citizenry has voted in the last elections, and World opinion, they are embarking on a fifteen million dollar campaign to blitz the media with this nonsense...
by thesoothsayer on Thu Aug 23, 07 11:00am [+]

Good ballot.
There are at least a dozen arguments that can be made for staying in Iraq or having a much slower withdrawal. The Vietnam "analogy" is not one of them. In fact its the most pathetic and irrelevant one that someone can use. It may be true that withdrawal in Vietnam precipitated (or allowed it to happen) the genocide in Cambodia. A wide scale genocide could happen in Iraq as well. However, this is somewhat tenuous. Vietnam and in fact most all of south-east Asia was of little strategic importance. The same isn't true of the middle-east. Most of the western world's oil which drives their economies comes from this area. Having it under the control of fundamentalist religious extremists like those in Iran is a legitimate threat and possibility. However, war wasn't and isn't the solution to that problem. Influencing where possible from the outside is better than what we do now which is try to pacify people that suicide bomb their own shopping areas and religious sites.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Thu Aug 23, 07 11:46am [+]

Voted : Bush is shameless.
And how did Vietnam turn out?
by _Beelzebubba on Thu Aug 23, 07 12:24pm [+]

Voted : Invoking Vietnam is obscene in this context.
Vietnam-Iraq is an invalid comparison.
I like to compare Iraq to the Texas Air National Guard. If the United States were to suddenly pull out of Iraq, it would be like a pilot going AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard... next thing you know, Texas would be full of illegal aliens.

"The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones who attacked us in America on September the 11th." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 12, 2007
by elvislennon on Thu Aug 23, 07 2:16pm [+]

Voted : Bush is shameless.
Canada, here I come...

As much as I love my country, and would gladly serve her in elected office, it's this kind of politics that push me away from the desire.
by Truthseeker013 on Thu Aug 23, 07 4:34pm [+]

Voted : Invoking Vietnam is obscene in this context.
So he's saying we should never have left Vietnam? That 40 years later, young Americans should still be dying there? That 40 years from now, young Americans should still be dying in Iraq? Sheesh!
by Uhhhhh on Thu Aug 23, 07 8:36pm [+]

Voted : Pretzel logic rules, especially when you know you can't be impeached (thank you, Nancy Pelosi).
Iraqis need and want to govern themselves. We can help them with aid and training, but they need to find their own way.
by skylab on Fri Aug 24, 07 12:12am [+]

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