IS DRINKING OR DRUGGING TOGETHER SPIRITUAL? READ/THINK BEFORE YOU ANSWER! [+] serious ballot by contragrain ACTIVE Sat Aug 25, 07 - Sun Aug 24, 08 This is not necessarily about the persons who drink or drug excessively; although since those behaviours are so pervasive in our western cultures these folks are certainly not excluded from this discussion, and will be discussed here in the description. It is also NOT intended to be discussed as a MORAL issue. First it may be necessary to think through exactly what spirituality itself involves. Native Americans met together in Sweat Lodges and sometimes used peyote for religious purposes. Actually, peyote (mescaline) is still legally permissable for this purpose; but, only on the Indian Reservations. Additionally, in a letter from Swiss Psych. M.D. Carl Jung (b. 26 July 1875 d. 6 June 1961) to Alcoholics Anonymous co-founder Bill Wilson, he addresses the non-sectarian universal spiritual aspect of the 12 step program as it relates to alcohol and alcoholism. In that letter he specifies that it is no accident that alcohol is commonly referred to as spirits, and that the spirituality has, for some folks ie. the ones with whom Wilson was working, turned negative. He uses a latin phrase spiritus contra spiritum to emphasize the point of how the 12 steps tackle the alcoholism issue. So, was the Old West practice of smoking the "peace pipe" to seal the deal spiritual? Is having a cocktail or two with your buddies after work spiritual? What about passing around a joint? Is spirituality always positive? Some people may feel they've had very positive experiences doing these very things. Others may have a quite opposing view of the social behaviours to which I refer. I have heard people--in my 44+ years of travelling around our Sun--joke about getting high and "getting closer to God." But, is there any aspect of that statement with merit? I'm sure to get some pranksters on this ballot; but, I'm looking for the serious answer. Is calling beer, wine, whiskey, gin, vodka, tequila, rum etc. spirits a misnomer? What do you think? Spiritus Contra Spiritum, or not? Yes, drugs are spiritual, we look to them for answers. No, drugs are not spiritual. Hmm... I never thought of it this way... may be... this is way too wierd for me to consider other, see comment Ballot #117349 : SEE RESULTS Comment: show your vote with comment?

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