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CHINA IS DYING


[+] serious ballot by Kev24
created Sun Aug 26, 07

for the last few years, it's bee totally in vouge to attack the united stats as the world's biggest polluter. it was justifed in some cases. but during that time, americans said about the kyoto accord "hey, if you are so concerned with actually doing something about pollution, you won't let countires like india and china off the hook." sadly, many chose to do jus that and instead blindly attacked the united states.

i urge you to read an article in today's ny times.

here are some excerpts --

Chinese cities often seem wrapped in a toxic gray shroud. Only 1 percent of the country’s 560 million city dwellers breathe air considered safe by the European Union. Beijing is frantically searching for a magic formula, a meteorological deus ex machina, to clear its skies for the 2008 Olympics.

Environmental woes that might be considered catastrophic in some countries can seem commonplace in China: industrial cities where people rarely see the sun; children killed or sickened by lead poisoning or other types of local pollution; a coastline so swamped by algal red tides that large sections of the ocean no longer sustain marine life.

China is choking on its own success. The economy is on a historic run, posting a succession of double-digit growth rates. But the growth derives, now more than at any time in the recent past, from a staggering expansion of heavy industry and urbanization that requires colossal inputs of energy, almost all from coal, the most readily available, and dirtiest, source.

China’s problem has become the world’s problem. Sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides spewed by China’s coal-fired power plants fall as acid rain on Seoul, South Korea, and Tokyo. Much of the particulate pollution over Los Angeles originates in China, according to the Journal of Geophysical Research.

More pressing still, China has entered the most robust stage of its industrial revolution, even as much of the outside world has become preoccupied with global warming.

Experts once thought China might overtake the United States as the world’s leading producer of greenhouse gases by 2010, possibly later. Now, the International Energy Agency has said China could become the emissions leader by the end of this year, and the Netherlands Environment Assessment Agency said China had already passed that level.

Land, water, electricity, oil and bank loans remain relatively inexpensive, even for heavy polluters. Beijing has declined to use the kind of tax policies and market-oriented incentives for conservation that have worked well in Japan and many European countries.

Indeed, Britain, the United States and Japan polluted their way to prosperity and worried about environmental damage only after their economies matured and their urban middle classes demanded blue skies and safe drinking water.

But China is more like a teenage smoker with emphysema. The costs of pollution have mounted well before it is ready to curtail economic development. But the price of business as usual — including the predicted effects of global warming on China itself — strikes many of its own experts and some senior officials as intolerably high.



do yourself a favor and read this article. the picture included is of a "chinese shop" in china. knowing people who have been there, they say it is filthy to the point of being surreal.

experts say that due to de-forestation, china loses the size of new jersey to deserty every 5 years.

so hate the usa all you want, but you dolts that blindly lash out at us better wake up.

agree?

huh? what? china is worse than the usa? surely you gest!!
yeah, i know it's true, but i will act like an a-hole and still blame the usa for everthing
china is screwed!
here's my wisdom

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For air quality, a major culprit is coal, on which China relies for about two-thirds of its energy needs. It has abundant supplies of coal and already burns more of it than the United States, Europe and Japan combined. But even many of its newest coal-fired power plants and industrial furnaces operate inefficiently and use pollution controls considered inadequate in the West.
by Kev24 on Sun Aug 26, 07 3:50pm [+]

The toll this pollution has taken on human health remains a delicate topic in China. The leadership has banned publication of data on the subject for fear of inciting social unrest, said scholars involved in the research. But the results of some research provide alarming evidence that the environment has become one of the biggest causes of death.
by Kev24 on Sun Aug 26, 07 3:52pm [+]

China’s environmental agency insisted that the health statistics be removed from the published version of the report, citing the possible impact on “social stability,” World Bank officials said.
by Kev24 on Sun Aug 26, 07 3:53pm [+]

As gloomy as China’s pollution picture looks today, it is set to get significantly worse, because China has come to rely mainly on energy-intensive heavy industry and urbanization to fuel economic growth. In 2000, a team of economists and energy specialists at the Development Research Center, part of the State Council, set out to gauge how much energy China would need over the ensuing 20 years to achieve the leadership’s goal of quadrupling the size of the economy.

by Kev24 on Sun Aug 26, 07 3:54pm [+]

That worst-case situation now looks wildly optimistic. Last year, China burned the energy equivalent of 2.7 billion tons of coal, three-quarters of what the experts had said would be the maximum required in 2020. To put it another way, China now seems likely to need as much energy in 2010 as it thought it would need in 2020 under the most pessimistic assumptions.

“No one really knew what was driving the economy, which is why the predictions were so wrong,” said Yang Fuqiang, a former Chinese energy planner who is now the chief China representative of the Energy Foundation, an American group that supports energy-related research. “What I fear is that the trend is now basically irreversible.”
by Kev24 on Sun Aug 26, 07 3:55pm [+]

Voted : here's my wisdom
Isn't that what you wanted?

The poisenous chopsticks will go down with her. 041
by britvic55 on Sun Aug 26, 07 5:52pm [+]

Voted : china is screwed!
Going to hell in a hand-basket! Whee!!
by TinCan on Sun Aug 26, 07 6:42pm [+]

Voted : here's my wisdom
As I understand China from speaking with Chinese people, China still a very feudal country, with each family trying to outdo each other family. There is no sense of community there. On the roads, there are few traffic rules. Drivers will try to knock other drivers off the road. So it is no wonder that the Chinese government (run by the feudal family who happens to be at the top) sees nothing wrong in humiliating all the losers with toxic air.

A feudal family would not care that their country is dying as long as THEIR family makes it.
by forgetmenot on Sun Aug 26, 07 8:15pm [+]

its not what i wanted britvic. but its time that people focused on the true issues and didn't just hang blame on the most readily available scapegoat. know what i mean? 064
by Kev24 on Mon Aug 27, 07 7:04am [+]

Voted : here's my wisdom
It seems like Chinese cities are in the condition of many American cities 70 years ago.


My city used to be at the heart of the steel industry. Thanks to globalization, we are no longer choked with pollution...

...or employment.
by _Beelzebubba on Mon Aug 27, 07 9:12am [+]

The pictures that accompanied the article were depressing too. It showed one of a village store in front of a Coal mine and the store looked really dirty and not sanitary. And according to the article Beelzebubba, there is not comparion. I read it too and it said that the condition of China now is dramatically worse than it ever was in the United States or England at the height of their industrialization. It's worse by far.
by patch22us on Mon Aug 27, 07 10:13am [+]

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