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IS THE UNIVERSE INFINITE, OR DOES IT POSSESS A CALCULABLE WEIGHT AND MASS?

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IS THE UNIVERSE INFINITE, OR DOES IT POSSESS A CALCULABLE WEIGHT AND MASS?


[+] serious ballot by contragrain
ACTIVE Tue Sep 04, 07 - Wed Sep 03, 08

The scientists at Goddard Space Flight Center at NASA seem to suggest that the Universe has a mass, a size. The commonly held position is that the Universe is expanding. So, it isn't INFINITE? If not, and apparently it isn't, if you believe these reports... then what exists beyond the Universe? Into what is it expanding?

this is an answer that must be explored beyond the third dimension
Em... that's where a Creator comes in, my friend
other, see comment

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The following is copied text, I didn't know how to say it in more understandable terms:
The Big Bang model was a natural outcome of Einstein's General Relativity as applied to a homogeneous universe. However, in 1917, the idea that the universe was expanding was thought to be absurd. So Einstein invented the cosmological constant as a term in his General Relativity theory that allowed for a static universe. In 1929, Edwin Hubble announced that his observations of galaxies outside our own Milky Way showed that they were systematically moving away from us with a speed that was proportional to their distance from us. The more distant the galaxy, the faster it was receding from us. The universe was expanding after all, just as General Relativity originally predicted! Hubble observed that the light from a given galaxy was shifted further toward the red end of the light spectrum the further that galaxy was from our galaxy.
So, what is beyond that? Einstein is commonly quoted as having said something to the affect that there are only two ways to perceive miracles, either everything is a miracle, or nothing is a miracle.
by contragrain on Tue Sep 04, 07 3:47pm [+]

I believe that space and time and energy and matter are all part of the expansion from the Big Bang. I think there is a limit beyond which not even empty space exists.
by skylab on Tue Sep 04, 07 4:18pm [+]

Voted : other, see comment
My theory is that the Cosmos (my word for the Universe, because I'm a renegade at heart) is transfinite in volume, and recurved on itself spatiotemporally. Mass, therefore, would also me transfinite (huge but measurable). But I'm a renegade in the community, so I wouldn't farm that around.
by Truthseeker013 on Tue Sep 04, 07 8:05pm [+]

*proceeds to farm this around*

I had to save that picture so I can shrink it to look at it :o
by Jyl on Tue Sep 04, 07 8:54pm [+]

Voted : other, see comment
I think at any given point in time, the universe does have a calculable mass, but it is not a valid measurement the moment after that and the moment after that and so on because it is always expanding.
by forgetmenot on Wed Sep 05, 07 12:44am [+]

Jyl, if you get any feedback, tell them that I said to "Bite my shiny metal a$$", okay?
by Truthseeker013 on Wed Sep 05, 07 8:53am [+]

^^ Matter can't be created or destroyed though. If the universe is expanding, it's decreasing in density and keeping a constant mass.

From what I understand, it's quite heavy.
by nuckinfutz on Wed Sep 05, 07 2:08pm [+]

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