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COLIN POWELL SAYS "TERRORISTS ARE NOT GREATEST THREAT TO NATION"

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COLIN POWELL SAYS "TERRORISTS ARE NOT GREATEST THREAT TO NATION"


[+] serious ballot by Kev24
created Mon Sep 10, 07

"What is the greatest threat facing us now? People will say it's terrorism. But are there any terrorists in the world who can change the American way of life or our political system? No. Can they knock down a building? Yes. Can they kill somebody? Yes. But can they change us? No. Only we can change ourselves. So what is the great threat we are facing?"

Powell adds, in an interview with Walter Isaacson, that to improve its image in the world, the USA should focus on welcoming newcomers. He takes on the immigration debate that has become a hot-button issue in the presidential race:

"America could not survive without immigration," he says. "Even the undocumented immigrants are contributing to our economy. That's the country my parents came to. That's the image we have to portray to the rest of the world: kind, generous, a nation of nations, touched by every nation, and we touch every nation in return. That's what people still want to believe about us. They still want to come here. We've lost a bit of the image, but we haven't lost the reality yet. And we can fix the image by reflecting a welcoming attitude -- and by not taking counsel of our fears and scaring ourselves to death that everybody coming in is going to blow up something. It ain't the case."

As for the Iraq War, Powell -- a retired general and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff -- tells Isaacson that as he and others in the Bush administration debated strategy in the lead-up to the war, he did not think the Pentagon and then-secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld had planned for what would happen after Baghdad fell.



^ this is part of an article about to appear in gq.

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COMMENTS:
Powell is a turd. He didn't say anything to stop the plunge into war in Iraq and in fact was a Bush stooge. Why didn't he say anything at the time? So what does he think is the biggest problem?
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Mon Sep 10, 07 7:12am [+]

^ what that fine gentleman said
by mojo on Mon Sep 10, 07 7:15am [+]

well he did say what he sees as a bigger threat --

"No. Only we can change ourselves. So what is the great threat we are facing?"

and besides, hardly any politicians said anything about iraq and powell at least did speak up and look what happened to him? he left the administration. how can you say he's a bush stooge faddleman? that makes no sense at all. at least he voiced his opposition at a point and left the administration.
by Kev24 on Mon Sep 10, 07 7:32am [+]

here's more of what he says in the interview --

As for the Iraq War, Powell -- a retired general and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff -- tells Isaacson that as he and others in the Bush administration debated strategy in the lead-up to the war, he did not think the Pentagon and then-secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld had planned for what would happen after Baghdad fell.

"That was the big mistake. Don had written a list of the worst things that could happen, but we didn't do the contingency planning on what we would do about it. So we watched those buildings get burned down, and nobody told the divisions, 'Hey, go in there and declare martial law and whack a few people and it will stop.' Then the insurgency started, and we didn't acknowledge it. They said it wasn't an insurgency. They looked up the definition. They said it was a few dead-enders! And so we didn't respond in a way that might have stopped it. And then the civil war started at the beginning of last year. I call it a civil war, but some say no, it's not a civil war, it's a war against civilians. In fact, we have total civil disorder."



^ seems to me like he's a pretty honest guy faddleman.
by Kev24 on Mon Sep 10, 07 7:36am [+]

Voted : i agree with colin powell
Colin Powell a Turd?
Colin Powell served as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1989-1993). He served as President Ronald Reagan's National Security Adviser (1987-1989). He received the Defense Distinguished Service Medal with two Oak Leaf Clusters, the Distinguished Service Medal (Army), the Bronze Star, the Purple Heart and other awards. He was chosen as senior military assistant to Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger during the Ronald Reagan Administration.
He served the Jimmy Carter Administration as an executive assistant in both the Energy Department and the Defense Department. Earned an MBA from George Washington University in 1971. While in college, he joined the ROTC, and received a commission as a second lieutenant upon graduation. Served 2 tours of duty in Vietnam, and received the Purple Heart. Served as US Secretary Of State under George W. Bush from 2001 to 2005.
(from infoplease)
62,040,606 Americans voted for Bush--those are the real turds. Fiddle, you'd have to move 10 steps up the food chain to be one step beneath turd.

by elvislennon on Mon Sep 10, 07 10:56am [+]

Voted : i'll comment below
Okay, turd might be too strong a word. I totally respect the man's credentials, and used to think he'd make a fine presidential candidate for the Republican party.

But I think he let himself and his country down when he presented the WMD argument to the United Nations council. He himself wasn't convinced -- in fact, he said right beforehand that the documentation he was given was a pile of crap. And going to war based on those untruths has cost a lot of innocent lives.

I won't comment on George W. Bush -- I don't want anymore negative K! 019
by mojo on Mon Sep 10, 07 11:51am [+]

* any more (two words) -- excuse my poor grammar.
by mojo on Mon Sep 10, 07 11:53am [+]

He's a turd because of all those credentials and then didn't speak up. Obviously those criticizing my comment missed that.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Mon Sep 10, 07 11:54am [+]

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And I sincerely wish that he'd had the cojones to have said this while he was still SecState...

I'm sick of this business, people who were intimately involved in crucial decisions that have since guided us down the wrong path, popping up and saying in retrospect, "You know, he was wrong about that." If you're a man, you stand up and say that *when* it happens, not years later.

IMO, there is no longer a terrorist threat. It's an insurgency threat, brought about by our own mismanaged policies over there and our lust for oil.
by Truthseeker013 on Mon Sep 10, 07 12:04pm [+]

He's a turd because of all those credentials and then didn't speak up. Obviously those criticizing my comment missed that.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Mon Sep 10, 07 11:54am


^ that's your opinion. right? or do you still labor under the delusion that you're the final word on all matters? and last time i checked, tough guy, disagreeing with someone was not criticizing a comment -- it's in fact, expression of a different opinion. if you can't handle that, don't come here.
by Kev24 on Mon Sep 10, 07 12:07pm [+]

by mojo on Mon Sep 10, 07 1:14pm [+]

Voted : i agree with colin powell
Given that he's one of the few who knows for certain that so-called 9/11 was committed by the US government and military, he's finally talking some sense.
by keithsheen on Mon Sep 10, 07 4:28pm [+]

^ uh yeah. anyway. back to reality.
by Kev24 on Mon Sep 10, 07 5:00pm [+]

yeah and of course we made the hijackers do it. i mean why else would osama himself be reading their last will & testaments as covered in a news story today --


CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Osama bin Laden will appear for the second time in a week in a new video to mark the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, presenting the last will and testament of one of the suicide hijackers, al-Qaida announced Monday.

Each year, al-Qaida has released videos of last statements by hijackers on the anniversary of the 2001 attacks, using the occasion to rally its sympathizers.

But this year's releases underline how bin Laden is re-emerging to tout his leadership - whether symbolic or effective - of the jihad movement. While past anniversary videos featured old footage of bin Laden, the latest appears likely to include a newly made speech.

Al-Qaida's media arm, Al-Sahab, announced the impending second video Monday with an advertising banner posted on an Islamic militant Web forum where the group often posts its messages.

The video was likely to be released within 24 hours to coincide with Sept. 11, said Ben Venzke, head of IntelCenter, a U.S. group that monitors and analyzes militant messages.

"Coming soon, God willing, from the testaments of the martyrs of the New York and Washington attacks: The testament of the martyr Abu Musab Waleed al-Shehri, presented by Sheik Osama bin Laden, God preserve him," the banner read.



^ so yeah, the u.s government did it and osam and his cronies helped and the hijackers willingly gave their life just cuz the u.s government told them to.

next!
by Kev24 on Mon Sep 10, 07 5:40pm [+]

Voted : i'll comment below
One of the GREATEST threats to the Nation is the a abrogation of the U.S. constitution by those individuals responsible for and duly sworn to uphold it...there are "instruments" and "mechanizations" in place that should be followed if changes are needed...as time goes on this will become far more clearer to those who cannot see what is happening right now...
by thesoothsayer on Tue Sep 11, 07 8:05am [+]

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