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ISRAELI WOMAN SAYS HER GRANDSON IS NO NAZI

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ISRAELI WOMAN SAYS HER GRANDSON IS NO NAZI


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created Mon Sep 10, 07

My Jewish grandson's no Nazi, says Holocaust survivor

PETAH TIKVA, Israel (Reuters) - She escaped the Holocaust at age six by hiding from the Nazis under a pile of dead bodies in her Ukrainian village.

Now the Israeli pensioner's grandson stands accused of joining a neo-Nazi gang which allegedly attacked Orthodox Jews in Petah Tikva in metropolitan Tel Aviv and painted swastikas across the walls of the local synagogue.

Her 17-year-old grandson is one of eight young Israelis, all from the former Soviet Union, arrested in connection with neo-Nazi activity, in a case that has stunned the Jewish state. All denied involvement at a court hearing this week.

Some one million immigrants from the former
Soviet Union have moved to Israel since the fall of Communism in 1990. Many, including some of the suspects, were not born to a Jewish mother -- the Orthodox definition of a Jew -- but qualified for Israeli citizenship because they had at least one Jewish grandparent.

The accused's grandmother said on Monday her family had been Jewish "since Adam and Eve".
"I went through a first disaster when I was six years old and now I'm going through a second disaster when I'm 72," she said in a telephone interview. "It was just chance the fascists didn't shoot me ... Now I'm very sorry they didn't kill me."

The accused's mother said her son was persuaded to join the gang after connecting with hardcore members on the Internet. She said he tried to leave when he found out about the attacks but was bullied into staying.

"He was always interested in history and the War," his mother told Reuters. "He made a mistake ... he thought they were just a bunch of history freaks."

"GOD WITH US"
The mother could not explain why her son tattooed "God with us" onto his arm in what she said was Yiddish. In German, which is close to Yiddish, the same motto -- "Gott mit uns" -- adorned the belt buckles of German soldiers in World War Two.

"This is incredible to see this here -- we didn't even see this kind of thing in Russia," said 32-year-old barber Mark Elazarov, who moved to Israel from the former Soviet Union 15 years ago and now attends the synagogue that was vandalized.

The case has revived calls for tougher immigration rules to ensure only bonafide Jews move to Israel.

While many Russian-speaking Jews have succeeded in Israel's booming hi-tech industry, others, including many not regarded as Jewish by religious authorities, have struggled to integrate.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said the neo-Nazi case was an isolated incident and cautioned against tarnishing the entire community of Russian-speaking immigrants.

But many in Petah Tikva want tougher action.
"People who are not Jewish should be kept out of Israel," said Elazarov.

Shopkeeper David Ness, 58, said he "panicked in his heart" when he saw the swastikas emblazoned across the synagogue.

"This is a Jewish country and it's my home, For someone to do something like this, it hurts," he said. "The police should get them and throw them out."


^ do you think this kid just got caught up in something? and do you agree what the people quote above are saying in that that israel is a jewish country and should only be for jews?

these kids knew what he was doing
they all made an honest mistake
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COMMENTS:
Voted : these kids knew what he was doing
I've never heard of neo-Nazis who did subtle ad campaigns. They got the whole pitch, most likely, and went in with eyes wide open. No excuses available for them, IMO.
by Truthseeker013 on Mon Sep 10, 07 3:41pm [+]

Voted : these kids knew what he was doing
i agree truth. i can't blame people in israel for being so wigged out by this. i blame the internet.
by Kev24 on Mon Sep 10, 07 6:27pm [+]

^ I blame the lack of open dialog married with this unprecedented and imposed multiculturalism in the west.These kids would simply be dull and violent individuals(and easier to deal with) instead of organized groups of skinheads with a cause.To ignore half of the problem,like our global corporate media does,is not helping.They're owned by the same corporations that are part of the problems in the first place.

I doubt this problem exists in Switzerland or Iceland.I say let Israel be for Jews.I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Jewish interest groups have pushed multiculturalism in host countries and that there is a lesson for all here.

I certainly wouldn't blame free speech on the web for this.
by robotthinker on Mon Sep 10, 07 7:10pm [+]

Tough one. Like robotthinker, I certainly wouldn't blame free speech. Especially when you consider the alternative.

Let's face it, these people ARE kids. And many kids will always rebel. I guess some kids rebel more than others. If you seriously wanted to shock and attract attention in Israel, how better to do so? Let's hope it is a cry for attention more than a genuine belief.
by keithsheen on Mon Sep 10, 07 7:22pm [+]

yeah, i guess free speech is not the issue per se. i guess it was that these kids had to have had some warped sense of being first and maybe sought out internet sites that blostered their mis-guided thoughts? i just don't know. they say that the kids who did the shooting in columbine already had issues and what they read on the net just validated those thoughts? i have to admit, i'm at a loss to explain it.
by Kev24 on Mon Sep 10, 07 7:48pm [+]

Voted : these kids knew what he was doing
But kids go through a stage where they think playing the devil's advocate is cool. The devil doesn't need any advocates, kids, thank you very much.
by forgetmenot on Mon Sep 10, 07 11:34pm [+]

Voted : these kids knew what he was doing
Maybe some people just have bad brains.
by skylab on Tue Sep 11, 07 1:30am [+]

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