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Voted : Glass Ceiling Is Myth In Today's Times
THERE IS NO GLASS CEILING! It is just a wedge the Feminist use to get women better jobs through a guilt strategy. If a company has only white workers, the minorities claim it discriminates because it is not diverse. That accusation is WRONG! Employee divisity is based on qualifications and WHO APPLIES FOR THE JOB! If no minority or WOMAN applies for that job, of course there are none there. You can't hire people who don't apply for a job. My employer has no Hispanics, so they sponsored a Hispanic Diversity Program to try to get more Hispanaics to work there. There are still no Hispanics here. WHY! BECAUSE NONE OF THEM APPLIED FOR A JOB! My area has a large Asian population nearby, but we have NO Asian employees. WHY! BECAUSE NONE OF THEM APPLIED FOR A JOB! If an employer is located in predominatley white are, of course their going to have very few monority employees because MOST PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE CLOSE TO WHERE THEY WORK. Minorities who live 50 miles away aren't going to apply for a job there. DUH! The truth is VERY FEW WOMEN apply for higher level jobs because they put FAMILY OBLIGATIONS first! Because of THAT priority, is the reason you see few woman in top positions. IT'S their CHOICE to put their family first and career second! So there is NO GLASS CEILING! It all comes down to the choices women MAKE! Not discrimination! The Glass Ceiling is WAY overhyped. Just like minorites overhype racial discrmination and use it as a wedge to better their lot. A woman's natural timidity and lack of assertivenss is the BIGGEST hindrince to their upward mobility. STOP BLAMING CULTURE! I'm sick of women blaming everything but themselves for their lack of achievement. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Stop blaming the west of the world.!
11. There are fewer female politicians and CEO'S than men. Why is this so, and what can women do to help break through this? Becoming a CEO often takes years to achieve. Women are more likely than men to suspend their careers to raise (and obviously have) children. Costing them years of job experience. Also our culture tends to stress importance of family over careers for women, but this double standard is not as strongly imposed on men. 12. Are dual standards a help or a hindrance? Yes, our culture would improve vastly if, for instance, men were given paternity leave on the same level women are offered maternity leave. This could work wonders to end societies views on gender roles in the work place. 13. Women earn 78% of what men earn. What can an individual woman do about this? She can: -1. Get a full time job. Women are more likely to work part time than men. -2. Get a better job. Women are less likely to pick college majors that will garner them high paying jobs. -3. Get a dangerous job. 94% of on the job fatalities happen to men. Hazard pay is a big factor in wage disparity. That's why more dangerous male dominated jobs like truck driver pay better than less risky female dominated job like child care worker. -4. Work more over time. Men work more overtime and thus get more overtime pay. 14. The Just income coalition is actively lobbying the government for an increase to $10 minimum wage. An increase alone won't help working women, what other initiatives could be taken by the coalition? Raising minimum wage ultimately raises wages for everyone. I don't believe legislation is the answer to this particular problem. Our society has to make cultural moves and that is a choice people must accept. 15. On a personal level, are there attitudes among women that hold themselves back from achieving mobility? No. Nothing universal but the fact that society puts more pressure on them to be domestic rather than career oriented may put undo guilt and pressure on them to make decisions based on how it will affect their family live rather than their careers. 16. Given the way society perceives the proper masculine and feminine way of behaviour, this may be a hindrance to achieving positions as Sargent, general, etc. What can women do about this? Men are usually raised as destroyers while women are taught to be nurturers. Biology plays the biggest role in this. If you had a group of fifty men and they lost all but one woman. They could only reproduce one child every nine months whereas if the inverse were the case and you had fifty women and only one man you could seemingly produce fifty offspring every nine months. As a result society has traditionally viewed men as being more expendable and testosterone has given them a physical advantage. Our society has to learn to accept women as soldiers first and that will be our biggest step toward equality in that field. 17. On the question of becoming a politician, there may be a certain level of political correctness among the general populace that may not believe that a woman can fulfill the role of leadership, but won't say so because of political correctness. What can women do about this? Everyone who has had a maternal role model in their life understands a woman's ability to lead. Stressing a woman's maternal role and contributions could actually help. As long as she spends an equal amount of time on her applicable job qualifications. 18. What can the older generation of women do to assist the younger generation in becoming more successful in breaking the glass ceiling? Teach men and women alike to put their family before their careers. 19. If Hilary Clinton became president, what could she do to raise women's rights worldwide? All social ills begin and end with education. I hope she understands that. 20. In your personal experience, is the glass ceiling over hyped? Have you seen or experienced this? It's misunderstood more than anything. Men making more money is not necessarily proof of discrimination, personal choice is a big factor. However we must do what we can to make sure that seemingly pink collar jobs, like educator, pay better.
how about women and the mirror floor
Robin I agree with some of your points but disagree on others. Women do not make less money for doing the same job. That is completely false. Federal law prevents pay discrimination based on gender. Have you ever witnessed this? Please give me an example. This pay difference has been claimed and repeated by Feminst Groups for so long, that now everybody believes it's true. IT'S NOT! Women in politics is simple a matter of WOMEN NOT CHOOSING TO RUN! The Parties have great difficulty finding women who want to or WILL run for public office. You can't elect women to public officer IN NONE OF THEM RUN FOR OFFICE! Once again the insinuated claim of some kind of discrimination or conspiracy is FALSE! And as you say, and I have said many times the earning disparity between men and women is due to OCCUPATION choice not discrimation. There are plenty of dirty, dangerous, physically demanding jobs, exposed to the elements, with demanding hours that pay good money BUT WOMEN WON'T TAKE THOSE JOBS! This is the reason that women outnumber men in college. Men don't need a college education to make a good living because the will take any job. Women, because the EXCLUDE a lot of jobs, have fewer choices, so they go to college as a means to make good money. I don't believe our culture inhibits women that much anymore. I saw a woman "trashman" once and I shook her hand for taking the job, one that most women won't. She replied "I had too, I have a family to support." If more women had her "can do" attitude their would be many more of them in jobs that have none now.
Grapost, I can give you one example of pay discrimination. Back when I was first hired on at Soulless Evil, Inc, a woman was also hired as a supervisor, same grade as I was. When I quit eight years later, she was still working there, and making almost $8,000/year *less* than I was, despite receiving more accolades and awards than I did. It's there (the Glass Ceiling). We just don't hit it because we have a Y chromosome.
The example you cite is not pay discrimination based on GENDER which was of your points.
^ "Hu-WHA????????"- H Farnsworth, c.3000 She was a woman, Truth was a man. Truth made more at the same pay grade than she did. Get me past that. Please.
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