HAS BRITAIN SIGNED AWAY IT'S INDEPENDENCE?

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HAS BRITAIN SIGNED AWAY IT'S INDEPENDENCE?


[+] serious ballot by Kev24
ACTIVE Thu Dec 13, 07 - Sun Dec 16, 07

FOREIGN Secretary David Miliband signed the hated EU treaty - hours before Prime Minister Gordon Brown arrived in Lisbon.

Due to the PM's delayed arrival, Mr Miliband was the only foreign minister to attend the televised ceremony alone, amid a stream of prime ministers and presidents from the other 26 EU states.

Mr Brown was due to put his name to the Treaty of Lisbon - which replaces the failed EU Constitution - after he joined the other EU heads of government at a private lunch following the official signing ceremony.

The news will be a blow to the country - The Sun's EU petition has received 28,000 votes saying no to the Treaty.

Today’s ceremony took place in the beautiful surroundings of Lisbon's 500-year-old Jeronimos Monastery.

Country by country, presidents, prime ministers and foreign ministers of the EU nations were called up to put their names to the document.
Only Mr Miliband went to the podium alone to inscribe his name on Britain’s behalf.

He also took part in the official “family photo” following the signing of the Treaty without Mr Brown.

The PM's absence is expected to prompt speculation that he did not want to be pictured signing the book.

Shadow foreign secretary William Hague said: “What will other EU leaders think of a Prime Minister who dithers for a week about whether he dares be photographed putting pen to paper?

“Does he think that other European prime ministers don’t have diary commitments too? Instead of leadership we have indecision, gutlessness and broken election promises. Britain deserves better.”

The developments come despite an eleventh-hour bombshell that it means surrendering control of Britain’s immigration policy.
The warning was issued to the PM last night as he prepared to wave the white flag over our right to make our own laws.

It emerged tens of thousands of foreigners facing the boot from the UK will be winners.

They will get new rights to overturn decisions by Britain’s Immigration and Asylum Tribunal.
It means failed asylum seekers will be free to take their cases to the European Court of Justice in Strasbourg — giving the final say to unelected EU judges.

And it is all thanks to a treaty critics warn is practically the SAME as the ill-fated EU Constitution, which bit the dust two years ago after the French and Dutch rejected it in referendums.


^ should they have signed? does it mean a loss of self-government and a surrender to a bureaucracy that will be calling the shots for the u.k?

it was right to sign
it was wrong to sign
we're screwed


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and comments with votes appreciated peeps.
by Kev24 on Thu Dec 13, 07 7:56am [+]

this was the headline --

"Miliband signs Britain away"
by Kev24 on Thu Dec 13, 07 7:58am [+]

here's more from the same article. it was one long ass article!


“This could mean that decisions made by UK courts to deport failed asylum seekers will be overturned by Brussels.”

The signing today surrendered more than SIXTY of the UK’s prized vetoes on EU decisions — forever.

The treaty puts in place a powerful permanent EU president and foreign minister. Powers will be handed to unelected bureaucrats and judges in Brussels.

Tory leader David Cameron blasted Mr Brown’s “betrayal” of Britain.

Mr Cameron said: “He doesn’t even have the guts to put it to the British people.”

This morning the PM was grilled by MPs in Westminster — meaning he would arrive late for the historic signing ceremony.

After finally arriving in Lisbon he was set to put pen to paper hours after his EU counterparts — leaving many of them furious.

Article 21 of the treaty declares it will be illegal for any EU state to discriminate on “any ground such as sex, race, colour, ethnic or social origin, genetic features, language, religion or belief, political or other opinion.”

It bars any member country from “any discrimination on grounds of nationality”.

Other clauses which hand immigrants more powers are included in Articles 4, 19, 7, 15, 16, 18, 45 and 47. The UK Government has confessed in the past it has great concerns about the measures.

by Kev24 on Thu Dec 13, 07 8:01am [+]

once again peeps, but a freaking comment with your vote otherwise they don't count.
by Kev24 on Thu Dec 13, 07 8:29am [+]

ok now you're all just tring to hock me off.
by Kev24 on Thu Dec 13, 07 9:02am [+]

Kev, Sometimes maybe people are just passing through, see recent ballots and they vote, perhaps just a one time visitor to this site, on their cyber journey.

Me personally, I didn't vote or comment because I don't know.
by larrynelmira on Thu Dec 13, 07 9:28am [+]

^Its a good ballot, but I'm just literally not informed of those goings on. Something I should read up on though.
by larrynelmira on Thu Dec 13, 07 9:56am [+]

ahh lawrence, good point. i'll accept your scenario as possible. for now. lol

you make sense.
by Kev24 on Thu Dec 13, 07 12:01pm [+]

Voted : it was wrong to sign
From what I've heard and read, I think most people were against it, so just based on that fact alone (if I'm right in my facts), it seems like it may not have been the best idea.
by patch22us on Thu Dec 13, 07 7:57pm [+]

Voted : it was wrong to sign
If the British public were allowed a referendum on the issue the overwhelming majority would have voted no. MP's are supposed to represent their constituants in parliament, they are a disgrace.
by winston on Fri Dec 14, 07 3:17am [+]






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