NY PHILHARMONIC IN NORTH KOREA

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NY PHILHARMONIC IN NORTH KOREA


[+] serious ballot by LCD
ACTIVE Tue Feb 26, 08 - Wed Feb 25, 09

Live on CNN.

400 americans in North Korea, performing a national concert, broadcast nationally there on TV and radio.

North Korean and American flag on stage together.

Which is the best way to handle dictatorial regime?

follow bush, call them axis of evil and isolate them.
follow everybody else, through cultural and information exchanges

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COMMENTS:
they removed the anti-US propaganda before the concert.

that's pretty significant, they have that anti-us propaganda shoved down their gullet every hour on the hour.

perhaps more of these cultural exchanges, then some popular literature, some news channels, some travel shows, etc. then maybe it will un-brainwash some of those poor people in North Korea.

Maybe the world would see a new day afterall. no thanks to bush.
by LCD on Tue Feb 26, 08 1:55am [+]

It isn't an either/or thing. Cultural and information exchanges can be helpful in some circumstances but by themselves they most likely will not bring about the fall of a dictatorial regime. See Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, etc.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Tue Feb 26, 08 8:00am [+]

Voted : follow everybody else, through cultural and information exchanges
I saw that too and was going to make a ballot about it, but you beat me to it. I think it's fantastic! Music did more to thaw relations than guns ever did or could. It was great seeing everyone getting along.
by patch22us on Tue Feb 26, 08 11:39am [+]

You make a good point FiddleFaddleonLSD, but at least we have to try. We know that the people of North Korea are somewhat cut off from the world, so if like LCD said, more and more they were allowed to experience more music and literature, etc., from around the world, the people would probably bring about a "regime change" themselves. Anyway, I so much prefer seeing a concert in North Korea than what we've been seeing thanks to hard liners in the West and in North Korea's government.
by patch22us on Tue Feb 26, 08 11:42am [+]

there were some ugly mugs in the audience, and all stone faced communist party members.

by the end of the concert, they were all smiles, and giving standing ovation :)
by LCD on Tue Feb 26, 08 11:43am [+]

"It isn't an either/or thing"

oh but it is. it's diametrically opposite.

ISOLATION vs. CULTURAL EXCHANGES.

those two can't happen simultaneously by definition.
by LCD on Tue Feb 26, 08 11:48am [+]

I disagree and I think you misunderstood me. The Soviet Union was viewed as being evil or at least certainly very bad (repression of their own people, communist system, etc). Certainly criticizing them, ensuring that we could militarily defend ourselves, and not providing assistance (economic or whatever) that would aid their system of government and its policies were arguably the appropriate things to do. These were in some sense isolating them. However, cultural exchanges and allowing the Soviets to get some sense of our culture, freedom, etc were good things also. They were also useful in speeding the end of the communist system. Certainly, the propaganda value was. Eastern Europeans had at least some knowledge of the differences between the two systems because of radio, TV, and propaganda broadcasts.

You can isolate a country economically and militarily while still allowing cultural exchanges.
by FiddleFaddleOnLSD on Tue Feb 26, 08 12:31pm [+]

I can't wait to see North Koreans get internet access and find out what Kim Jong Il's been doing.. eating lobster and caviars flown in daily from japan, while everyone else is starving and eating tree bark.

he gonna be hung like a pinata form the nearest tree.

let the people get some education. cultural or otherwise.
by LCD on Tue Feb 26, 08 12:32pm [+]

It is really depressing that he lives like that and lets his people suffer. I feel very bad for them.
by patch22us on Tue Feb 26, 08 1:55pm [+]

Voted : follow everybody else, through cultural and information exchanges
Any glimpse of the outside world those oppressed people may see will someday foster a desire for change which may so day some way take hold...
by thesoothsayer on Wed Feb 27, 08 11:50am [+]

Voted : follow everybody else, through cultural and information exchanges
Maybe the ol' Jonger can teach them to play some of his compositions. rolleyesballot #79209
by _Beelzebubba on Thu Feb 28, 08 10:04am [+]






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