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COMMENTS:
Voted : I'll tell you below
It was a very good campaign speech.
I would feel the same way as he does toward my minister, friends or family member .
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Very well done. I may even register as a Democrat yet just so I can vote in a primary just to spite Billary.
Or register as a Republican just to piss off the McCain folks.
I haven't heard all of it. Thanks for the link. I'll post when I've read it.
Voted : I'll tell you below
Human nature is complex. His comments were interesting.
Voted : Same old, same old
Didn't convince me at all or change my opinion. I'm sorry but I look at it like this: If Bush went to a church where the pastor praised David Duke, gave him an award, and traveled with him, everyone would call Bush an idiot and a racist (or at least a racist supporter) for doing so. (Yes, I know he is an idiot anyways).
Obama says that his opinions and those of his minister are not the same on these controversial issues. Two responses to that. Actions speak louder than words. Obama says one thing but does nothing (especially at the time). Second, at the very least this whole controversy shows me that Obama shows very poor judgment in at least some cases.
Nothing he said convinced me to change my opinion. He reminds me some times of a person who will say all the right things but often never follows them up with the right actions. Sort of like "I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It won't happen again". Of course, it does.
^ that's your opinion and your right to it of course, I could care less who my friends friends are as long as they aren't pushed on me, with Bush, I don't even think I would care, he is friends with leaders of some repressive nations, I know countries have relationships with nations but for our leader to walk with them holding hands declaring them their great friend , isn't that just as bad or worse?
My point is that when someone is elevated beyond mere friendship to the level of "spiritual mentor", then the connection between the two is more intimate. I do find it hard to believe that you would want to be friends with someone who called Farrakhan or Duke a "friend". I think you would question the sanity or your friend. I doubt you would want to call them a close friend. If you did, you would certainly expect (or should) that people would harshly criticize you for your decision to be friends with that person. Frankly, someone who calls Farrakhan a "great man" or "great leader" is either a moron or a racist. Just do some research on what Farrakhan has said about Hitler, etc. To praise such a person implies agreement at least at some level. I won't even show Farrakhan the respect of calling him "Minister Farrakhan" as Obama does. I also don't even remotely want to be associated with someone who praises a person like that.
And you are right about "our leader to walk with them holding hands declaring them their great friend". I agree. It is disgusting and it shouldn't be done. Most all presidents do it to some extent (even Saint Carter who praised the Shah of Iran and others). Some of it is diplomatic necessity but it still shouldn't be done. In Obama's case, there isn't any foreign relations issues at play.
I also think that some of the other things he said were off the mark, naive and incorrect. For example, his attempt to link the reasons for Reagan being elected at being related to anger by whites over "affirmative action" and "welfare". I wasn't old enough to vote in that election and I certainly wouldn't have voted for Reagan. I wouldn't have voted for Carter either (Go John Anderson!). It had nothing to with affirmative action or welfare. I had everything to do with the catastrophic mess the economy was in and the Iran hostage crisis. I think my parents may have voted for Reagan. Those were the reasons. They didn't like Reagan and held their noses when voting but they certainly couldn't tolerate Carter any longer because of the economy. I think Obama's attempt to give the reason as being affirmative action and welfare is insulting to the people he needs to convince.
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His speech was positive, motivational, exceptional and quite candid and frankly, for those who continue to find fault with this man after his speech I have only this to say... ...Cry me a river why don't you...
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There's a limit to what most people will tolerate before cutting their ties. Obviously Obama's limit wasn't reached.
I think a preacher, being not a member of the family, is a little different than a grandmother. If my preacher started uttering comments that I felt were racist, I know where the door is. And I would walk out, never to walk back in. I don't have the conscious to let someone with racist overtones minister to me or my family.
On the other hand, his white grandmother could toss out the same card that others toss out for his minister. The time they grew up in was very different than it is today, so it's easy to see how they could arrive at racist viewpoints.
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