COMMENTS:
Voted : Yes
yes, but they are not gonna.
big problem with that is that recently, we've done pretty bad stuff ourselves.
hard to call people on things when you are as guilty as they are.
by LCD on Sat Mar 29, 08 6:05pm
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Didn't you see my very similar ballot? ballot #125210 :)
Yours isn't about a whole country boycotting the games. The two ballots aren't the same at all. :-)
Voted : Yes
I realize that this would be an extreme hardship on athletes, which would be a shame, but some things are more important.
Voted : Yes
If not for social reasons, then for health ones. Anyone who's seen pics of Beijing knows what I mean.
Back on track, we boycotted the Evil Empire back in '80 because they were a "threat to us". What is China, if not a major threat?
boycott walmart would probably hurt them more, I would feel sorry for the athletes but I really have problems with China's human rights record, Darfur and Tibet,
^this just in, German chancellor, Angela Merkel said she would not attend the opening ceremonies because of Tibet,
Yes, but they're close enough that you could have admitted where you got the idea for your ballot. :)
Voted : Yes
I think so.
by mojo on Sun Mar 30, 08 4:31am
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glad to see you mojo, I missed you
Voted : Yes
Sure!
Glad to see you larry, I missed you.
Voted : Yes
yeah what the hell
patcheroo, I have had the idea for several days. You just gave me the impetus to post it now. :-) LOL
^^^ 
Voted : Other
I will have to go with LCD's comment regarding this matter, who is the US to point a finger at China when the US behaves badly as well?
This is another primary example of the US flexing its hypocrisy muscle again and when/if other countries dare to boycott the US for the very same reasons, some of its citizens will criticize those countries in doing so...Because it is ok for the US to engage in these pattern of behaviors against their own citizens, however, no other countries better not dare to do the same, what a crock of BS...
As for answering the ballot question, what does it really matter, the BIG and bad US is goint to do whatever if deems necessary until the entire international community slaps the US on the nose with a newspaper like any other disobendient mutt...Its time for a CHANGE America, and its a comin 
^ 2 wrongs don't make a right, if Olympics were held in the US and other countries or people had problems with US policy, I would have no problem with them boycotting . Whatever preasure that might help with injustice is fine with me.
protest actions you perceive to be wrong in any country, US included, don't just ignore, that would be ridiculous
I usually put a disclaimer about US actions when criticising other countries , I've noticed if I don't , ballots are used as a soap box and the question is usually not really answered.
How does a ballot that is ultimately about the Olympics in China, become once again, an irrational USA bashing ballot? It's like a broken a broken record. Some people really seem to have seriously flawed and unhealthy ethics, values and morals.
Now that's timing! :)
^ maybe we were separated at birth :)
patch... when BBC enters the ballot, that's when.
^ FFD get a grip, you are so full of yourself, Israel and you know what else...
Patch, I answered the ballot question whether you agree with my response or not...
Larry, your commentaries is what it is, you are young and I will leave it at that...
my commentary is just because the US does things wrong does not mean injustice is okay elsewhere, if growing older means we should watch and say nothing about genocide or human right abuses no wonder the world is in the sorry state it's in today.
We need a change alright, if you are saying this is what your generation believes.
I also don't see where you did answer the ballot question, either yes we should boycott or no we should not, you could have added that in your commentary instead of making a riddle out of it
^ You know something Larry, you nor anyone else on this site or beyond this site are in no position to require me to respond in a certain way. I will respond in a manner as I see fit, see how that works Lar? Now, with all that said, if you believe it is necessary for the US to boycott the Olympics in China than goodie for you...However, it is in my opinion that the US is in NO position to point a judgmental finger at any other countries for their human rights violations of their citizens. To boycott China would be like a murderer pointing the blame at his victim IMO...Again, "IMO" as it is your right to have your very own regarding this matter...Capisca? Bene...
BBC... what the Sam hell does Israel have to do with this ballot?
LOL
any country is in position to condemn what they see as wrong, Russia and China both condemn US policies even though their record is shotty, I guess your way of thinking is say nothing and let the abuse continue because look what we're doing.
You don't seem to get that both can be done, condemn the US when they do things wrong but also condemn other nations if they do as well and boycott if that's the only thing that will get their attention.
I don't know if a boycott is the answer, but I agree with Larry.
It seems that the world is in the condition it's now in because too many people deflect and nothing gets addressed. Ignore China and their horrendous abuses because the United States has made mistakes? So then nothing gets done.
A murder should not identify another murderer because he should have the attitude: "well, I'm a murder too, so who am I to help the police by letting them know who this other murder is." I can't follow that logic.
In World War II, should nations have taken the attitude that they had no right or obligation to speak up about the Holocaust because they have questionable episodes in their own nation's history?
So I guess Russia, England, the United States, Spain, France, Germany, Japan, China, etc. should not do anything about Dafur.
I don't know if China would change because of boycotts either, as I said earlier probably boycotting Walmart would hurt them more, but my statement "IF" that is only thing that would get their attention.
Voted : Other
I really don't know. 
I feel that sports should be separated from politics, but then again, the US boycotted the 1980 games in Moscow and within a decade, the walls of opression were coming down. 
So I guess Russia, England, the United States, Spain, France, Germany, Japan, China, etc. should not do anything about Dafur.
sad to say when it comes to Darfur, they seem to be using the BBC Doctrine
^ There you go again Larry, proving my point, grow up son, you are behaving as usual like a spoiled 2 year old brat. You can't handle the truth SON, and as for FFD, Israel is calling...
who is behaving like a spoiled two year old , who is latching themselves on to haters and agreeing when they talk hate , but let anyone dare say any foul thing to you and you get up on your high horse proclaiming to be all righteous, From the time I joined this site you have been doing that shit, I'm sure you could care less but this is the reason I never had respect for you. practice what you preach.
if you want you can have the last word, I'm done
one last thing though, far as my feelings being hurt , maybe if someone I respected made neg comments to me, my feelings might be hurt , but coming from someone who swoops in on ballots not to debate but talk hate, not to listen to other view points but to attack the person making the ballot usually saying things that have nothing to do with the subject, but that's okay, right?
But if someone else does the same thing to you with far less hateful words, you climb back on that high horse and play the victim ," please stop messaging me,stop making comments directed at me, boo hoo," Again practice what you preach .
I'm sure you will dismiss all I said above but I said it and I'm finished, no more dealing with you on any subject.
Oh gee, and my feelings are definitely hurt now, you no longer deal with me? the problem son, you can't deal with me, grow up, now I am done, go collect your toys out of the sandbox and go home...
Barbara_Baby_Cakes, can I ask you a question?
In my ballot on protests and the Olympics, you added the following choice and comment:
Voted : Injustices should be exposed no matter where it lives...
I believe injustices should be expose where ever it exist, from the White House to the Out House, pull those covers/blinders off and expose that festering wound for all to get a gander...
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on Sun Mar 30, 08 3:40pm
But in this ballot if I'm understanding correctly, you seem to be saying that the United States is in no position to point fingers. What is the situation in which we should "expose injustices?" Do you mean we cannot ever because we are guilty as well? If you can clarify because I may be misunderstanding your position on the issue.
This is my position patch, when a country pledges the following: "With Liberty and Justice for all," and fail to live up to that and other pledges, then turn around and point the judgmental finger at other countries for committing the same injustices against their own citizens, that slaps square in the face of hypocrisy...
China has NEVER pledged the same, so with China you see what you get, I am not against protesting injustices, however, I am against a country (USA)that has a brutal history (and not to mention recent acts of injustices against Americans, by the Government and other Americans)committing injustices against its citizens regarding race, religion, sexual orientation, gender, the socially economic disenfranchised, etc, etc, etc...
It is an individual decision whether to boycott the olympics in China, however, Americans should think about how some members of the international community views Americans standing before the world and objecting to what is going on in China.
Until America understand that it should clean up its own backyard(s)before venturing into others, especially China, America can not afford to damage the relationship between the two countries any further to prevent possibly not only causing China to point back and bring other countries with them against the US.
It disgust me to know what is happening to the citizens in Tibet, however, is it really any of our business? Boycott the members of the US Government, compel them to clean up their act and then, and only then, we can restore our honor within the international community (if thats even possible). We must be the ruler of morality that others can work towards measuring up to...The hypocrisy must cease in order for our concerns to be heard and taken seriously...
Its not about ignoring injustices outside our borders, its about practicing what you preach to others, not dictating to others and/or saying, don't do what I do, do as I say...That mentality is no longer putting fear into members of the international community...
Why is it that some Americans would rather venture abroad to protest injustices in other countries and ignore those in the US? I just don't understand such a priority...
There are many American children that went to bed last night hungry, not only that is an injustice, it is incomprehensible, where is the outcry for these helpless Americans:?
Enough is enough, not only Americans are not a concern for many members of the international community, they aren't for many Americans as well as MANY members of the US Government...
Its not that I don't care about what is going on in Tibet, I am more concerned about what is going on in this country, first and foremost and I don't apologize for that...
Barbara_Baby_cakes, but do you see shades of gray? In other words, the reality is, there truly is a scale of "evil."
No country is without fault. No country is without social injustice. But, there is a huge chasim between social injustice and inequities and total barbaric, brutal force. Wouldn't you agree?
If you have a minute, would you cite for me examples of totalitarian brute force in the United States with paralel examples in China...or lets say Russia, as examples.
I think what I need to do is see the distinction between social injustice, which exists in all nations and polar opposite examples in which a government set about to intentionally opress, murder and erase a human life because that human life dared to challenge the government.
Do anyone know of the time in history books(or in his/her own history)when President Carter boycotted the Moscow Olympics...not just him. He won't let the American athletes go.
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