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Voted : These are his heroic acts (below)
If Scott McClellan is a hero (as some on this site believe), then John McCain is a veritable superhero. Regardless of what you think of his politics, he certainly qualifies as a hero.
A US air force pilot, he had been shot down over Vietnam in August 1967. He was badly injured when he ejected from his plane. He was captured, escaped, and then caught again but refused to surrender. The North Vietnamese shot him and later bayoneted his left leg to discourage further escapes. He was held as a POW at the "Hanoi Hilton".
Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, instead beating and interrogating him to get information. Only after the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral did they give him medical care and announce his capture. His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of The New York Times and The Washington Post.
In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.
In mid-1968, McCain's father was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and McCain was offered early release. The North Vietnamese wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes, and also wanted to show other POWs that elites like McCain were willing to be treated preferentially. McCain turned down the offer of repatriation; he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.
In August of 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain. McCain was subjected to repeated beatings and rope bindings even though he was at the time suffering from dysentery. His injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head. While he was forced to sign one an anti-America propaganda statement, he refused to sign more and for this he subsequently received two to three beatings per week.
John McCain was awarded a Silver Star Medal for resisting "extreme mental and physical cruelties" inflicted upon him by his captors. His seventeen military awards and decorations include the Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Bronze Star, Distinguished Flying Cross, and Navy Commendation Medal, and are for actions before, during, and after his time as a POW. Even if you disagree with his political views this obviously qualifies him as a hero.
Well that should be enough. Actually, there is a lot more. It was disgusting to watch John Kerry being swift-boated and his heroic war record impugned. Let us not do this to another legitimate hero.
* thanks to wikipedia for the info. Other sources consulted as well.
"He was badly injured when he ejected from his plane. He was captured, escaped, and then caught again but refused to surrender. The North Vietnamese shot him and later bayoneted his left leg to discourage further escapes. He was held as a POW at the "Hanoi Hilton".
Fairy tale.
he was shot down, he landed in a lake. the fisherman went in to rescue him, broken limbs and all. That is a FACT.
everything else is from John McCain's mouth.
I am sure there will be people going to interview those who fished him out of the water this year, and lot of things he said will be examined with a microscope.
John McCain is a same hero that John Kerry was. He had bigger and better weapon, because his father was high up in the military food chain.
by LCD on Fri May 30, 08 10:27am
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"everything else is from John McCain's mouth."
Oh sure. That is why his capture and torture made front page news and why he was awarded all those honors. There are numerous witnesses to what happened to John McCain and his bravery while a prisoner including a Congressional Medal of Honor winner.
"John McCain is a same hero that John Kerry was."
At least you got that part right.
You can download or view his military record at the US Navy website. That one particular part you mentioned I saw some differences in various accounts but nothing super significant. The bayoneting etc - were caused at that time. He didn't self-inflict them.
Voted : This was his heroic act (see below)
He's a better man than me.
But I still ain't voting for him.
FiddleFaddleOnLSD
I've read that entire post but what exactly in there was heroic? He didn't go through anything much different than some of the "enemy combatants" at Guantanamo Bay.
Voted : If being a joke makes one a hero, then yes, he is one of the greatest heros ever...
That short arms midget did not perform one heroic act during his stay in Vietnam...The lil piss ant was shot down and held prisoner like many other soldiers during that time...Yes, that worthless toad survived, like others, however, I would not deem his captivity and alleged torture as being heroic...
He received awards for being a POW, not being heroic...
He like many others were unlucky, not heroic...I know, people will say, his alleged attempts to escape, his torture experiences, his willingness to serve his country and his survival deems him a heroic character...I deem him LUCKY...
During the Vietnam War, just like the many other wars, people will claim all and anything when the public is not watching...He is not a hero, he is an overrated little dip who don't know a damn thing about being a hero, the only thing he has experience in is being a tortured prisoner of war...thats it, nothing more, nothing less...
BTW: And he doesn't know a damn thing about the present war (Iraq)there is a vase difference between the Vietnam War and the Iraq War, one was a political war (Vietnam) and the other one is a religious war (Iraq)...
A vote for him is a waste of a vote...
"That short arms midget"
LMAO
Voted : If being a joke makes one a hero, then yes, he is one of the greatest heros ever...
Barbie Bolshevik once again starts running off her big mouth and again displaying the cobwebbed, empty attic inside her head. "Lucky"? Really? What else would you regard as "lucky"? Surviving the Holocaust, perhaps? By your twisted, insane logic, the fact that Elie Wiesel just barely managed to survive Nazi internment at Auschwitz and Buchenwald would just make him "fortunate," not heroic. After all, if he'd have been a "real" hero, he'd have beaten all of those SS officers senseless, hijacked a plane, and flown it straight to Berlin, where he would've kicked Adolph's ass. Meanwhile, back in the real non-delusional world, most of us can differentiate that what McCain did was heroic. It has nothing to do with agreeing with his politics or voting for him come November.
You might want to check in on McCain's actual war record. He volunteered for combat duty over Vietnam, and he was on his twenty-third mission when he was shot down. He'd earlier barely escaped death in another fiery crash, yet he didn't quit. I think FiddleFaddle told the rest rather well.
Honestly, I'd love to see you held by hostile Viet Cong, Barbie. I wish I had Mr. Wells's fictitious time machine so you could show us all how to behave heroically. ...Or more likely heroically piss your dress, plead for mercy, and offer the V.C. sexual favors in exchange for your miserable life.
Ah, well, let's try it again, shall we? I think it's obvious how I intended to vote earlier...
Barbie Bolshevik once again starts running off her big mouth and again displaying the cobwebbed, empty attic inside her head. "Lucky"? Really? What else would you regard as "lucky"? Surviving the Holocaust, perhaps? By your twisted, insane logic, the fact that Elie Wiesel just barely managed to survive Nazi internment at Auschwitz and Buchenwald would just make him "fortunate," not heroic. After all, if he'd have been a "real" hero, he'd have beaten all of those SS officers senseless, hijacked a plane, and flown it straight to Berlin, where he would've kicked Adolph's ass. Meanwhile, back in the real non-delusional world, most of us can differentiate that what McCain did was heroic. It has nothing to do with agreeing with his politics or voting for him come November.
You might want to check in on McCain's actual war record. He volunteered for combat duty over Vietnam, and he was on his twenty-third mission when he was shot down. He'd earlier barely escaped death in another fiery crash, yet he didn't quit. I think FiddleFaddle told the rest rather well.
Honestly, I'd love to see you held by hostile Viet Cong, Barbie. I wish I had Mr. Wells's fictitious time machine so you could show us all how to behave heroically. ...Or more likely heroically piss your dress, plead for mercy, and offer the V.C. sexual favors in exchange for your miserable life.
"You can download or view his military record at the US Navy website. That one particular part you mentioned I saw some differences in various accounts but nothing super significant. The bayoneting etc - were caused at that time. He didn't self-inflict them."
That's correct: it's not just McCain making all of these claims about his war service. There's plenty of corroborating evidence, so stop making yourself look like the worst kind of political hack, LCD.
By the way, Barbie, I see that you spelling and grammar are as atrocious as ever. It's "heroes"! "H-e-r-o-e-s"! I can't imagine how utterly illiterate one needs to be in order to misspell such a common plural word.
Is English your first language? Were your ma and pa first cousins? Have you ever sustained massive head trauma while not wearing a helmet? This can't be the normal course of events, can it?
Correct as: "your spelling and grammar."
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At least I know the difference, Barbie.
^ Hahahahaa...well now...You are quite the gem felix...There you go attempting correct my grammar and spelling again, and really not saying anything worth reading...Hey, if it gets you through your day to do so? Then have at it...Now, remember this always, YOU are only a legend in your own mind, ok, I hope I don't have to remind you of that again...However, knowing YOU, the possibilities are endless...
No, he won't...
He's a completely inexperienced political lightweight, and, even if the utter loathing the American populace hold for Dubya causes Obammy to get elected as the least of several possible political evils, he's going to suck as President--utterly. Enjoy those confiscatory Carter-era tax rates he'll be bringing back, unless, as I suspect, you're already on welfare.
Felix (bestandworst.com) on 4:29pm May 31, 2008 | ZAP
^ Cute Felix, hahahahaaa...You are a typical McCain and Bush supporter, enjoy Legend...hahahaaa...
felix my man, most excellent to see you back. 
Kev, glad to see you again, my friend. I shall probably hang about for a bit, as it seems I'm the last conservative alive here after all of the pogroms. Wait? Is that jappy? Oh, well, next to last, but we'll see for how long.
Barbie:
I see you've yet to respond substantively to anything either FFLSD or I said. You've not actually responded to any of McCain's documented war record nor to my criticisms of why anyone should take your absurd definition of heroism seriously. As usual, you are a complete and utter cretin--unread, uneducated, lacking even the rudiments of how to construct a logical argument. All you have are rather sad ad hominem attacks that would shame a five-year-old child were he to be caught using them.
Oh, yes, that's exactly what I said about Barry Obammy earlier. You've not responded to that substantially, either. You might also want to go back and look at my earlier posts here to see that I didn't vote for Bush in 2004, have critiqued his foreign policy continuously, and have consistently voted Libertarian for many years now.
You really are a prime idiot, aren't you? Well, thanks for the laughs again, "hero."
By the way, Barbie, what precisely have you done in your sad twit's life that's heroic, as you see it? Did you heroically take on double shifts at McDonald's or perhaps you heroically dealt with a severe problem with hemmorhoids that affected your ability to commute to the McJob on your scooter?
Please, by all means, Virgil, tell us of arms and the left-wing she-male, and your many acts of valor.
^ What a pathetic individual you are Felix, you are a legend in your own mind...You are quite the social misfit and there is no ending in site regarding that fact...
You are without a doubt a McCain arse kisser of epic proportion, your midget, short arms, so call war hero is nothing more than a prisoner of war, not a hero, a prisoner of war...Now, live with that fact and if you can't, by all means, do us all a favor and end it all right now so that the undertaker can take out the trash and bury it six feet under...
BTW Felix the RAT...May the Obama force be with you, your next President, I know the very idea of him becoming YOUR President gives you that warm feeling of euphoria...Yeah, I experience the same feeling, isn't life grand...
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