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I'm gettin another drink.
- There is no point to living. Still,you got to have a laugh:)
To live? Perhaps the whole point is simply to experience and live? Heres where I fall into some difficulty, are you talking about purpose or simply why is life worth living? If it is the former there is little I can say without being vague and sounding like I know more than I really do. The latter I can explain as best I can: Here goes; FACT - Life exists, from small micro-organisms to large complex lifeforms like humans. We know that each person or complex life form is made up out of many smaller life forms. (in a way). FACT - Life must consume life to continue living. You eat a fruit or meat, both were once living, until you stopped them from living. Now that in itself is fascinating when you think about it. If life must consume other life to sustain itself, then exactly what are we sustaining ourselves for? What makes it important that we are considered greater than a cow, or an apple? Is it our thinking proccess? If so, then does that tie into our purpose? I think I may have veered a bit here, but I really like how this is starting to pan out. Someone else please continue from where Im leaving off or something...
I am not sure what the point is, but the best way to live life is to find what makes you happy (as long as it dosn't negativly effect others in a noticable way) and go and do it, and live life without any regrets and go 110% in everything you do!
"I always knew that riddle writing cunt was all wrong. What a stupid picture of the world where people are slaves to their animal nature." Well, what are we but souped-up animals? Repress *all* animal instincts and neurosis sets in...
Life goes on, every second of every day. Life goes on, wether you notice or not, wether you enjoy it or not. Tic, tic, tic, goes the clock, and every moment youve wasted is a moment youll never get back. Quoth the raven, nevermore.
And yet sometimes (some very rare times), in some point, I realize, just for an instant, that Im actually living. And those moments are too short and too intense to be remembered, and yet, somehow, make me feel life so strong, so colorfull, so natural and so divine, that it makes my whole existence worthy. Even if its just for the feeling of something you cant control going through every single atom of your being. Life.
I guess the meaning of life is just to live.
Does that make any sense? Probably not. Oh, well, Im drunk anyways... or so I wish.
by Smat on Tue Jan 20, 04 9:03pm
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Wake up, eat, work, watch tv, have sex (or not), sleep. What's the point, since it's all going to end?
I don't know. Do you? No. Theres no possible way to know. As that cool guy Kant said once, no metaphysical axiom can be proven to be necessary. Yup. You've heard me. No way to know. But you know what? Even if there's no point at all, even if this is all just a big nonsense, shouldn't we get some fun meanwhile? You've heard Felix. Go all epicuristic, get drunk and wild!
(Oh, and about the duality of the human nature : Apollo and Dionysius, as I see it. Reason and mesure againts passion and excess. By supporting Felix Im not saying balance shouldnt exist. Im just saying you shouldnt forget about Dionysius, he was such a great guy, after all...)
by Smat on Tue Jan 20, 04 9:08pm
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"Oh, and about the duality of the human nature : Apollo and Dionysius, as I see it. Reason and mesure againts passion and excess. By supporting Felix IÂm not saying balance shouldnÂt exist. IÂm just saying you shouldnÂt forget about Dionysius, he was such a great guy, after all...)" I'll be next to third nicely proportioned nymph on the left at the next bacchanal. Bring your thrysus and a few gallons of wine, and we'll save you a space.
By the way, one needn't believe in Pagan gods to recognize their value as powerful symbols of human nature. I will go a little bit along the Jung trail...
"There's no wisdom in getting pissed and shagging some rotter." You need to read some Euripides before you get all snarly, Pentheus.
"Mankind has a dual nature. Animal and divine. We are not just souped-up animals." Prove it: all most people care about is territory, mates, and dominating their fellows (getting to be "alpha" ape).
"I never suggested that we should repress all our animal instincts."
Good, because it's absolutely impossible.
"Balance, you see?"
Balance is nice: sex on even nights and drinking rounds with pals out on the town on odd nights.
Argh... I just wish english was my mother tongue to be able to discuss this more easily...
Hey, about Epicure... I just wanted to point something out, it's not all about getting drunk and having sex with gorgeous women, it's about reaching happiness by satisfying your needs. That "sex and beer" simplification was just Felix's lust talking... ;) Believe it or not, philosophical discussions were very important to them, as they were considered a need. I don't really think you can say that's an "animal instinct"...
Pagan gods and booze : "By the way, one needn't believe in Pagan gods to recognize their value as powerful symbols of human nature. I will go a little bit along the Jung trail... " Thank you, thank you so much, Felix, for understanding my point. I wasn't thinking Jung actually (I'm a big Nietzche fan) but hey, that's the idea.
by Smat on Wed Jan 21, 04 7:54pm
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I just realized everyone has forgotten poor old little Richard_Harbridge... So here I am to add some sartrianism to your life. What's the point of life? Who knows? But wether life has a point or not (wether history has a point or not), the grandeur of men is their capacity to give a purpose to their existence. It's up to you to decide what the point of your life is. Yay.
I hope this post makes any sense, I'm pretty tired actually... Oh, but don't you guys think we should create a "philosophy" cathegory for this site? We could have fun for hours!
by Smat on Wed Jan 21, 04 7:57pm
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Smat:
You're correct about the original philosophy of Epicurus--as best explicated in Lucretius's DE RERUM NATURA. On the other hand, you also know that, in early Roman imperial days, there were a group of "epicureans" (mostly in name) who'd simplified his philosophy down to a kind of "maximize pleasure" philosophy that discarded all subtleties. I'm kind of half serious when I cite to them or the idea of behaving exactly like them, but a little bacchanalia on the side regularly would do many a world of good.
I understand what you ment, Felix, just wanted to point out the original Epicurean philosophy, because of that "I always knew that riddle writing cunt was all wrong. What a stupid picture of the world where people are slaves to their animal nature" comment. Sex, beer, fluoxetine and rock 'n' roll!
And damn, how come you're so erudite? It's not fair. I wanna be smart too.
by Smat on Thu Jan 22, 04 1:22pm
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Are you depressed or something?Go see your dr.He will prescribe you a good anti depressant.
At the end of the line, after discarding all religious wishful thinking, you're left with one purpose in life: to be as happy as you can possibly be. Hedonism is the meaning of life and all who deprive themselves are living a second-rate existence. "A little bacchanalia on the side?" I say if it won't kill me, I'll take all the bacchanalia you have in stock, please!
hey i'm terminally depressed too but i finally came to terms about suicide...i figure death is most likely oblivion BUT i don't know so i figure why not stick around and enjoy the occasional nice day at the track, watch t.v., go out for drinks sometimes, play videos, smoke weed, or even take a nap...i'm pretty sure i won't be able to if i'm dead.
Wow I am diagnosed as clinically depressed and you make me seem as happy as Hilary Duff .
freedom to live hell on earth surrounded by whack-jobs and sickos. i think not! unfortunately this is TRUE!!!
If you can think of questions such as the purpose of life might be pointless, you are already too fucked up to live.
People on this ballot is not telling you the truth. Here is a good way to find out what is the point of living. Go out and kill 100 people, just right before you kill them, ask them the same question, and kill them after they answer your question. After 100 kills, you should get a fairly good idea about the point of living.
i'm trying to figure that out... i'll let you know soon.
The point of living is to exist, that's it. There is no other reason. What do animals such as Tigers and Lions do besides exist? Nothing. As do Humans. The point is to exist.
Maybe if tigers and loins had minds like ours you'd see them commiting suicide from time to time.. and it's not THEATRICS, GMBFC, it's just the realisation that life is tedious, I've wondered over and over if I can stand this sad world anymore, but then I turn the news off a while, and I think of my family and my cats who need me, they're my point of living, not the wondrous glory of the Earth- we're tearing it up. It scares me that I'll be here probably sixty more years, I won't have room to turn around, there'll be so many stupid people crowding all over the place
by x__ on Wed Sep 22, 04 1:12pm
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sorry I got carried away.. my sincere apologies to any stupid pigs.
by x__ on Wed Sep 22, 04 1:13pm
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I would slap you until you cry though
by x__ on Thu Sep 23, 04 11:43am
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