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Jealousy, definitely. I'd like to see another religion go through so much and still survive.
I think people are jealous.
White supremacists hate blacks, because they point to their shortcomings, or lack of success. They hate Jews because they hate
their intelligence, work ethic, success, and the fact their faith is older
than Christianity, not to mention the crucifying of Jesus Christ. The funny thing is Jesus Christ was born a Jew, and that's fact.
JEWS are world's most intelligent peoples they are controlling world's economi and just for they are all rich everybody hates them not for killing jesus christ.I wish I were a jew but I am muslim
Excellent points, stingray.
Oh, sure. Terrorism.
So the U.N. IS an organization of terrorists. Hmmmmmmmm...
Funny, I don't see any Israelis blowing up busses, or teaching 3 year olds how to shoot someone.
Oh, but then again, it's always our fault, isn't it?
Jews have conned people to believe in their own version of the holocaust.
FOR THE UNEDUCATED READ THE TALMUD, THE JEWISH HOLY BOOK THAT THEY REGARD AS MORE HOLY THAN THE BIBLE ITSELF, THIS TELLS YOU WHAT THE JEWS REALLY THINK OF NON JEWS!
HITLER WAS RIGHT, NO SURRENDER!
Thank you Violinmeister8x.
Actually most people probably don't hate Jews, or they would have let the Nazis do what they liked.
This is for the Anonymous
Christian who wrote about Jesus being crucified by
the Romans. I know that, but the Jews are being blamed for his crucificixtion, which was a pivotal event in Christianity. I think these so-called Christians
who dislike Jews would be
thankful that Jesus Christ died for their sins, or that's how the story goes.
If that's the case, then Christ being crucified for
the sins of humans was a
necessary thing. Besides, if he is truly the son of God, then he should be ok
in Heaven, correct? His Father is taking good care of him, it's just that his human form no longer exists.
Newsflash: Nobody killed Jesus... read the Jesus Mysteries.
They are the spawn of satan. They hate white people and want to smash all white culture with multiculturism so white people have no identity and the JEW can then rule freely in America.
Sure. We want to kill everyone, we want to destroy everyone, murder everyone, take over the world, take over society, any more?
You all know that's a lie. Who's the nation who did almost nothing in return to all the pogroms, inquisitions, holocausts, the Holocaust, and whatever the fuck else?
I want to see another nation go through as much as we did, and not complain about it.
Our whole existence has been a tale of tears and suffering. Why? Because that's what God chose to do, and we respect his decisions.
And although, there were mass-murdering, Jews never lost their faith in God. Never.
Which major religion prays more than once a day? Muslims amd Jews.
People of which religion do not put a crumb of food into their mouth before reciting a blessing, and on most cases recite one afterwards, as well? Jews.
Which religion was always victorious during religious debates against dukes and priests and kings? Jews.
On which religion does it it EXPLICITLY say that God gave it the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai? Jews.
Have a good day.
Jew boy, you are forgetting one thing.
While you rant and rave about fictional Biblical events such as God giving you the 10 commandments, you fail to realise that we dont give a fuck about Judaism, Islam, or Christianity. Religion is the food of the simple minded.
You seem to forget about Christians when you mention those killed by the holocaust. Stalin, who was a Jew, ordered the deaths of MILLIONS of Christians in Soviet Russia by way of the Gulag camps.
The concept of never losing faith in a God that puts his 'race' on earth to watch them die and be slaughtered is floored. The concept that he only has one race is also floored. Therefor, the concept of God is floored. You see we really dont give a fuck about ancient rules and religious regulations. Judaism is the most ancient, barbaric religion on earth and preaches hate and ethnic cleansing against the White man. Anybody who disagrees with me on this one should read the Jewish Talmud.
If you think that Jews do not have a political agenda in world politics, then you are either uneducated or just politically naieve. Maybe both.
However, Jews are one of the most intelligent races in the world, and their hold on world media, politics and American congress continues to help them dominate affairs across the world.
Shamon, everything you just said is either factually incorrect or just plain bullshit. Get a proper education.
Amen Jpparie.
Shamon, if that's what yu base the existence of a god on, then I have nothing to say to you.
Stalin was a Jew? ok...
We want to perform an ethnic cleansing on white people. May your ears hear what your mouth speaks. That was an extremely stupid comment. The Jews, for your information, have been experimented for ethnic cleansing all these years, not the other way around.
But of course, you'll just twist whatever I say, so it's as if I'm talking to the wall.
I don't know why.But I know sor sure a lot of people don't like them.
Because people are too stupid to accept their own faults so they must attribute the problems on someone other than themselves. Every single group has issues. Christians, Jews, whatever. Who gives a shit? Lots of people hate Jews, while Catholic priests fuck little boys... see we have our issues.
Hitler himself for you:
You said yourself that you have no idea why Jews are hated so much. Let me ask you: So why do people hate us? The answer(s) is/are simple: Either:
1)Ignorance, as they have been brought up that way and have no fuckin' idea what the hell is actually wrong with the Jews.
2) Jealousy. Enough said.
3) They have been mislead by shit like "the Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and crap like that.
Regards.
The BIBLE has written proof of all your "theories". It says that the Jews will be persecuted, abused, and killed, and it prophecied that the WORLD (most likely the Arab World) will one day UNITE to strike on Israel but God will protect His chosen people in a supernatural way. You may think that I'm a lunatic, but the bible has been 100% accurate in ALL the prophecies it presented. The Jews do not believe in Jesus Christ just yet, because the Great Tribulation has to come first...then in the end, they will believe in the Messiah that they've always rejected throughout the history of mankind.
"FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH BUT SHALL HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE"
And by the way, the Resurrection of Jesus is proven historically. I'm not here to argue, but to present the TRUTH.
i don't like isreal but jew haters are jealous jews are the most advanced religion in the world
the protocol of the learned elders of zion....find it on the internet.....jews plot to fuck you over
Terrorists plan to fuck you over first, Vontion
In America, Black people hate Jews the most.
Vontion isn't even American. She says she's from Idaho, but she doesn't even know how to spell it (Ideho). I can also tell by the way she writes that English is not her first language. Based on the type of grammar mistakes she makes, I'd wager she's really from the middle-east somewhere. First language is probably Arabic, or Farsi - possibly Turkish. She's probably not really a she, either.
Well..if i follwo american logic its because there jelous of jews and there succsefullnis, as everyone who hate america or anyhjitnh gamerican must be jelouse of there power
I don't know why, but I can't hate Jews because my Savior & Lord, Jesus was a Jew and so was his Blessed Mother, Mary!
No Christian shouldn't hate Jews and let's not forget that hating people is a sin!
It's funny how hatred is seen inappropriate at times and justified at other times. How honest can some of you be with yourselves. If you hate any group of people then you have issues. If you think just because you are christian and jewish then you can justify your hate on others then you are ignorant. I feel like some of you are using muslims and others as a scapegoat. Kinda like dont hate me but hate them. People are just too ignorant. Their is no hope for humanity, budda is right, life is suffering. if only you find a way to enlighten yourself.
Looks like most people know that Jews are just people, and that people who hate Jews are just ignorant.
For those of you who do not know your theology:
Jesus was Jewish and so were the disciples.
All of the disciples went to Synagouge even after Jesus died.
If you love Jesus, yes, you love a Jew!
If you want to be like Jesus, learn about Judaism.
Any one who wrote on this pole that THEY HATE JEWS I AGREE
Jews are CUNTS
Uhh... HUH?
I seriously hope that that was a sarcastic comment. I should go to Al-Jazeera radio and listen to what's happening from a twisted, biased, completely idiotic, and anti-semite reporter who has nothing but the destruction of Israel and the Jewish nation on his mind and at the top of his assets?
It's all in the Bible, the New & Old Testaments, prophecied and fulfilled thousands of times, through generations and generations. But all these will just remain as questions to those who do not believe in Jesus Christ. These are all old news, and we, followers of Christ, are not puzzled or confused like the rest because God revealed them all to those who put their faith in Him, and to the One whom He sent to redeem mankind on the cross of Calvary in Israel.
There are some vicious comments by members, also. Primarily, 2. And I think you know exactly who I'm talking about.
;-)
Pureamerican, you are racist. That makes you no different than a Nazi. There's nothing original or hard to understand about hate. It's easier to hate than to use your brain or educate yourself. And what's with the broken English?
I am a turkish muslim and I love jews but I hate arabs they smell like apig and they don't use fork to eat sth they're disgusting but I love jews and people hte them because they know how to earn money and they 're all rich so jealous stupids hate them
Correct. Get your moth-eaten ass of the chair and go out there and make some money. Stop using other people as your scapegoats or punching bags. It will come right back at you at the end, I promise you.
Nope, Lew. They hate us much more. And they're so blinded by their hatred that they can't think straight.
WHY DO JEWS hATE NON-JEWS SO MUCH?
Why should anyone listen to YOUR opinin, Hamsun-sen, when you mention that Stalin didn't kill enough Jews? And no, we don't see Gentiles as dogs, although we SHOULD, because, after all, that is the way ignorant schmucks like you look at US! Why do I say your ignorant? Simply because of one thing. You deny the Holocaust. That's why. No, I am not saying it's true because I am a Jew. I am saying that because 11 million people, six million Jews out of them, don't vanish into thin air over a period of 6 years. Oh, and also because I don't think my grandfather had his arm tattooed willingly. Why should he want something weird like F-16746 on his arm. It must be because he wanted to lie that 6 million Jews were tortured, and really they weren't, right? Right, asshole?
jews suck
And so do you.
Dude you jelous jew hating people can go suck hitlers dick. Jews have gone through alot and survived. Sure, Israel isn't perfrect and neither are jews. But neither are you! Hitler, hitler, hitler. Seems so many people like him. You know, even if you believe in hitler, if your not blonde and blue eyed he wouldnt like you. he probably would take you outside and shoot you through the head. I am Jewish and proud of it. and christ was JEWISH! How are people so stupid not to know that?
Nah, he wouldn't do that. If they would swear to him that they really really REALLY hate Jews with all their heart, and what they love best is seeing a Jew crumple to the ground, then Hitler would make an exception and let them join his club... on condition that they'd let him change their eye-color with chemicals.
Wussy, if someone hates somebody else with a blind hatred, there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. That is the case over here, as well.
May Hitler rot in Hell.
I know it's a problem for you to understand judaism, which relates not only to the beliefs and costumes of the person, but also to it's nationality, unlike any other religion. Judaism isn't missionary religion because of the nationality issue, and the chosen people concept. Even today, converting to judaism is very hard (orthodoxic), and only achieved when the person proves that he attached himself to the history of the jews as well as to their religion.
You also have a problem with accepting the fact that this method - of combining the religion with the nationality and keeping them under strict seperatism (I'm not sure about the translation of this) that judaism imposes on its believers. The close communities that don't assimilate or lose their faith, is one of the reasons for the survival of judaism - faith and nationality for at least 3200 years. This is also one of the main reasons for the hate that the jews' neighbors developed, but because of its nature, judaism succeded and survived - and reborned as a true nationality in the late 19th century, and finally the creation of Israel.
About the khazars stuff, I understand that you have no proofs for that, and I find it hard to believe that they were accepted by the jews at the time. Over the years many nations and tribes converted to judaism and followed the bible, but the mainstream of jews - the original jews didn't accepted them. For example the Shomronim, I'm not sure if I can translate it to Sumerians, but anyway, they are cult of non jews who converted before the the firsst return to Zion in 538 B.C. and those who came back never accepted them, and ddin't let them build the second holy temple. Those Shomronim aren't considered as jews today, although they are citinzens of Israel. The same is about all those who claim they are from the lost 10 tribes, never such group was accepted - so I find it hard to believe that such swap was possible when you talk about whole tribes and not individuals.
And even if you're right, don't forget that already then - in the 7th century they accepted Zion as their homeland and prayed for the salvation - Geula, in Zion, and that's way before the arabs who were defined as Palestinians ever left the Arab Peninsula.
According to this theory, what happened to the original jews? And how does it explain the jews who stayed in Zion?
by Yosi on Mon Feb 02, 04 12:31pm
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why do jews hate non-jews so much?
WHY we hate them????is this a fucking JOKE..everyone hates these mother fucking filthy tribe of animals.
Kill all the fucking Jews
Why do jews hate gentiles so much??
The Revisionist: You made up about 75% of that stuff so I can see how you be able to write such a volumnous tirade in such a short amount of time.
Jesus wasn't Jewish? The Holocaust didn't happen? Come on, nobody believes you. Since you are making most of this stuff up and adding just a little truth here and there it SOUNDS close to reality but since it isn't reality it is not the truth.
If you were hurt by a Jew I'm sorry, but not all Jews are bad and you people need to stop attacking them. You can't blame them for shit, they've behaved like model citizens in almost every society and have been SHIT ON for it. I am ashamed to be of the same race as Nazis and you should be too. Go back to Germany and take you ideaology and your lies and half-tuths with you so that you guys can destroy yourselves again.
Millions of deaths aren't good enough for you, you want BILLIONS of deaths don't you? No wonder Germany is responsible for Two World Wars and vandalism.
F u c k y o u r a c i s t s b a s tards
let's kick pureA in the nuts!
And you say that you DON'T hate Jews, Revisionist? Sorry, but all of the evidence points to the contrary, and I'm not the only one who thinks that way.
But that's not what I wanted to say. What I wanted to say is:
1) 6 Million Jews died in the Holocaust, no less. If you don't believe me, do you believe Hitler and Eichmann? They said the exact same thing.
2) If you say that the Talmud is fucked-up then you have no idea what you're talking about. The Talmud does NOT override the Torah/Bible. Frankly, the Talmud is inferred and learned out through all the verses of the Torah. The Torah is the basis for the Talmud.
3) A mohel sucks out the blood by that method because that is the safest and gentlest way to remove all the bad blood from the baby, and not harm him.
4) And no, my grandfather did not make a beeline to the tattoo parlor the day he heard that they were giving out reparations. Actually, he was living in Israel at the time.
Your comments make it clear that you are a huge anti-semite; in heart and soul. You take the most mundane things, and twist them so you'll make the Jews look bad. (What else is new?)
Regards.
lighten up Revisionist. If you find the solution for world peace then let me know.
Violinmeister8x, stop obsessing about your tribe. It is this self centerdness that brings your tribe bad karma.
Well, I'll reply only to the comments to my things, because it will already be too long.
First I don't understand the – and its friends - so what does they mean?
To the point, the first part of your response just shows that you simply don't understand the principle of judaism. Back then - even 3000 years ago, our ancestors (original jews, if you insist) understood that the only way in which a nationality and religion can survive through the ages, and the hard times it is headed for, is to seal the communities from any foreign influences - so the jewish costumes and ceremonies will last as they were in the origin, without Synkretism - combining different faiths and costumes. And indeed, the most dangerous times, when assimilation of the jews and the possibility of forgetting their true nationality - was in 3rd and 2nd century B.C. That's when the helenic culture took over the world, assimilating and thus eliminating other faiths and nations from the world - like ancient egyptians, babylonians and so on. The fact is that those culture weren't as close as judaism, and that caused their disappearance and the helenic-telmaic and helenic-Persian (Seleucian?) culture to take over. Many jews did assimilated, and it was a great danger for the continuation of the jewish tradition - and thus nationality, because when you forget your own beliefs - you'll soon forget where you came from and fully assimilate. A rebelion was opened in which the jewish seperatists won and re-established the independent jewish country. You have to remember that judaism survived even much tougher challenge - the second Galloot, in which jews were seperated from their homeland and settled among foreigners, but still kept their religious identity - for 2000 years, untill the reborn of the jewish nationality. Now, you have to seperate the past judaism from the current. The past one was the one who consisted the babylonian Talmud - from the 6th century B.C., by that time, you can't criticize only the jews because all the world, religions - pagans and early christianity and Islam, preached for terrible things, like forced world domination and stuff. But in the enlightement age judaism was changed, although the orthodox jews still believe in those scripts, but never want to implement them - but that also relates to other devoted people from other religions - for example Osama Bin Laden - what makes him different that he is working towards Islamic world domination by force, using the religious explanations. The other jewish group - the more secular one, adopted to the new age, and started to assimilate in the society in which they lived - some lost their identity, but some kept their jewish identity, because their judaism was so firm - because of its nature, and in those ages your judaism didn't prevented the person from getting ahead in the society. But like in the greeks' ages the assimilation happened - and still happen today in the Gola - not in the real homeland - Israel. Zionism offered to the seculars a way to keep their jewish identity - thru nationality, not only religion, since the jewish people hadn't a country of his own for the last 2000 years, so the jewish nationality was frozen - but the fact is that he wasn't deleted - and that's the success of judaism in my opinion. To your question, I'm an Israeli, and a jew, but I don't believe in the religious part, so you can basically say I'm an atheist, but my nationality and history is jewish, and now when jews has a country of their own, the threat of assimilating is decreasing.
To the nazi stuff, that's the mistake that you antisemites do, the jews never claimed they are better - when you don't relate to the talmud, but they wanted to decrease the friction with the local non-jewish population, so one way is to forbid marriage outside the communities and keep the purity of the race (You don't have to define it as race, let's say that the jews should be deceandents of the original jewish people/tribe, cause I too don't think we are seperate race). Anyway it may sound racist, and the talmud is stupid, like a lot of stuff from that age, but it served the purpose - of not assimilating by adopting the costumes of your non-jewish wife for example. The most certain way to prevent that is to forbid those kind of marriage. So yes it may sound racist but it is, although very extreme, the most secure way to keep the jewish religion and nationality alive. The lack of acceptance of other non-linked groups to the jewish mainstream, is one of the extremest ways of protecting the faith, and it reflects the JUSTIFIED fear of foreign influence over the original religion, and causes trouble with the jewish seperate natinality - not in a nazi way, but in a way that should and does prevent tribes like khazars from "adopting" our nationality. Now, I have nothing against that, and whoever that wants to connect himself to this religion and nationality AS IT IS, is welcomed to undergo orthodox convertion and join the jewish people. The talmud had a problem with that, but you can't say that religion shouldn't forbid people to join it - this is not discrimination in a restaurant...
On ballot #12995 you can find more answers to your accusations, written by me and others, and I'll relate latter to the rest of the things you say - it's just too long for now...
The registered anonymous who written the last comment is me (yosi)
by Yosi on Tue Feb 03, 04 2:24am
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boy, talk about ethnocentrism
Any tribe that is ostentatiously ethnocentric, hordes wealth, and insults outsiders, invites hatred upon itself.
Again, your problem to understand the purpose of the Talmud, causes you to understand it the way you understand Hitler. Let me ask you this, if you convert now a group of people to christianity, and in the future this group will influence christianity in a way that it'll forget jesus and god and so on... Will you agree to that? Now imagine that christianity is a little religion in a world in which most people don't believe in jesus and christianity's stuff, and to add to that, christians are seperated groups, without territory of their own. What will you do? give up and merge in the population?
The jews didn't, and the only way it is possible is the way of seperatism - "Hitbadlut".
Now, for the difference between hitbadlut and nazism - nazism was based on the "natural order" concept and acted towards achieving that goal - not only to keep the purity of its own race, but to make the world be the way it is supposed to be according to the natural order - in which the less superior races are uneducated slaves for the Aryan race, and the most inferior races - jews and others are eliminated. Now I don't see anything wrong with the idea of keeping the nationality closed to others, but in anyway you can't violate other races rights. When the germans invaded other countries or even restricted minorities' rights it was wrong and forbidden. I know that you as an antisemite won't agree that the jews aren't acting towards those goals - but this is your paranoia. Now, about the Talmud, you don't accept that it became irrelevant to all the jews, just like extreme primitive writing of Islam and christianity aren't being implemented.
Now if you from one side claim we aren't real jews, so how come you blame us for killing christ or following the talmud? After all those belong to the original jews by your theory...
I'm sure that the Talmud's intention is to maintain the jewish faith and identity, and for a fact, judaism is the oldest nationality and religion - that survived at least 3200 years. You can't say that it could be kept in other way because you can't give any example of religion that did survived in the judaism conditions. So basically your claim is that judaism shouldn't have survived, like each antisemite throuout the years, ask yourself if it's legitimate - if you can force a religion to be extinct.
by Yosi on Tue Feb 03, 04 4:13am
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"Now if you from one side claim we aren't real Jews, how come you blame us for killing Christ or following the Talmud?"
Real Jews - members of the tribe of Judah, prior to AD 70, were not Khazars or Sephardis, and the oral tradition (the beginnings of Talmud) was merely a political-religious undercurrent. I hold the religion of Judaism responsible for the murder of Christ. If you claim Judaism as your religion, or Zionism or Communism as your ideoology, then you are culpable. The Talmud takes responsibility, and as outgrowths of Talmud, the adherents of these ideologies are likewise culpable. They inherit the same mentality.
"I'm sure that the Talmud's intention is to maintain the Jewish faith and identity..."
I'm sure it has a MUCH bigger agenda.
"...and for a fact, Judaism is the oldest nationality and religion - that survived at least 3200 years."
No, that is not a fact.
"You can't say that it could be kept in other way because you can't give any example of religion that did survived in the Judaism conditions."
Of course, I can - Christianity. Christians were viciously persecuted for roughly 400 years before that religion's widespread acceptance. Oddly, you did not see Christians adopting a crime syndicate masquerading as a religion in order to survive, as have "Jews."
"So basically your claim is that Judaism shouldn't have survived, like each anti-Semite throughout the years, ask yourself if it's legitimate - if you can force a religion to be extinct."
Why not? If an ideology such as National-Socialism can be brought to heel for World Zionism by a proxy Gentile force (World War II), why cannot the tables be turned for a nationalistic, socialistic "religion" like Judaism?
"Again, your problem to understand the purpose of the Talmud, causes you to understand it the way you understand Hitler."
Why not? The two ideologies are practically sisters!
"Let me ask you this, if you convert now a group of people to Christianity, and in the future this group will influence Christianity in a way that it'll forget Jesus and God and so on... Will you agree to that?"
No. But that is only the experience of Pharisaism-cum-Judaism. The thing in that case which is presumably in danger of being forgotten is racial self-worship. That is why assimilation is guarded against so strictly.
"Now, for the difference between hitbadlut and Nazism - Nazism was based on the 'natural order' concept and acted towards achieving that goal - not only to keep the purity of its own race, but to make the world be the way it is supposed to be according to the natural order - in which the less superior races are uneducated slaves for the Aryan race, and the most inferior races - Jews and others are eliminated."
Ah, but this is exactly the purpose of the Noahide laws. Judaism seeks to establish worship of "Jewish blood" - whatever that is, as the only legitimate object of worship. Anything else is blasphemy with decapitation as the punishment. Knowing these things makes me question just how much your people really love peaceful relations.
You hold the judaism responsible to christ - what should be done to them? To be more specific what should be done to the current jews who "inherited" the guilt of killing jesus? You set the standarts for judaism - that we shouldn't act as Hitler, so be careful with that answer, so you won't be a hypocrat...
Other issues
How could the khazars adopt a faith and the talmud which rejects them, I and any ametuer anthropoligist would think that they'll try to legitimize themselves - so did the Shomronim, Karaites and any other group of unaccepted jews. But as you said those khazars inherited even the mentality. I think it'll be an enormous task to convert whole tribe - millions you said to religion that from the first place rejects them. And even not to try to change it to legitimize themselves...
I'm by the way sepharadian jew, if you're interested, but this explanation should include the sepharadians convert - when did it took place and where? And if it did, how come those apperantly non-connected streams in judaism acknowledges one another, but don't acknowledge the rest of the cults claiming to be jewish?
And another thing, zionism I can understand, but how can you explain communism's link to judaism, which its main points are complete devotion to religion, and hitbadlut?
This too is antisemite claim, because communism wasn't a jewish invention, but it was invented and implemented by people some of whom were jews, but they were extreme secular jews, who neglected their religion - and thus the talmud's intentions...
by Yosi on Tue Feb 03, 04 5:07am
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"When the Germans invaded other countries or even restricted minorities' rights it was wrong and forbidden. I know that you as an anti-Semite won't agree that the Jews aren't acting towards those goals - but this is your paranoia."
The word Semite denotes a language group, and I find it difficult to oppose a language. Can you prove that "Jews" are Semites?
Paranoia? Yosi, I resent this assertion very deeply. It smacks of only arrogance and supremacy, and these are not becoming traits. However, "Jews" like even you are apparently so enamored of their group and convinced of its necessity for Tikkun Olam that they just cannot think of anything else. Paranoia? Only a very rabid national megalomania can produce such an apologist attitude for all Zionist actions or the support thereof.
"You hold Judaism responsible to Christ..."
Yes, indeed I do, just as any "Jew" can proclaim the "anti-Semitism" of Christianity, or maintain of the genetic evil supposedly inherent to German blood. (cf. Daniel J. Goldhagen)
What about German blood in the United States?
"What should be done to them? To be more specific what should be done to the current Jews who 'inherited' the guilt of killing Jesus?"
Well, all I can do is forgive them according to the dictates of my religion, although not failing to point out their error.
Christianity is a missionary religion - it wanted to convert the entire roman empire, and that's how it survived - using missionary methods to increase the number of its followers - you see judaism can't do that, and yet it survived, as you claim 1200 years between the khazars adoption of judaism untill today. 400
by Yosi on Tue Feb 03, 04 5:27am
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One thing's for sure, you certainly won't find me lopping off people's heads simply because they disagree with my religion or refuse to worship me. But then that's the stark contrast of Judaism to Christianity: Judaism is utterly incapable of forgiveness and reconciliation. All it knows is war and vengeance.
well the rest of my things were deleted after the 400. I have to go now, but
I'LL BE BACK
by Yosi on Tue Feb 03, 04 5:29am
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But Yahweh said, "Vengeance is mine." The Jewish people think they are God! How messed up is that?!
"Christianity is a missionary religion - it wanted to convert the entire Roman Empire, and that's how it survived - using missionary methods to increase the number of its followers. You see Judaism can't do that, and yet it survived, as you claim 1200 years between the Khazars adoption of Judaism until today."
Judaism "can't" do that because the notion of racial superiority is just too intoxicating.
It was not "Judaism" that survived for 3200 years, because "Judaism" began formally in AD 70 as a response to the threat perceived in Christianity. Before AD 70 there was Pharisaism. Before that, the "traditions of men," as the New Testament calls the oral tradition. Before that, it was the paganism picked up in Babylon and Egypt. Before that, it was the Golden Calf. That is the belt of transmission for what is called "Judaism" today.
What you have there is a persistent spirit of evil and mischief that continuously plagued ALL 12 of the tribes of Israel, and not just Judah. The fact that it has infected a race of Turko-Mongoloids (Khazars) proves that Satan can influence ANY race of people. None are immune.
" But then that's the stark contrast of Judaism to Christianity: Judaism is utterly incapable of forgiveness and reconciliation. All it knows is war and vengeance. "
I guess christianity's forgiveness and reconciliation is the reason for the world peace in the christianity's reign - since 4th century A.D., you are probably one of the better examples for that forgiveness and reconciliation :
"What you have there is a persistent spirit of evil and mischief that continuously plagued ALL 12 of the tribes of Israel, and not just Judah."
"Oddly, you did not see Christians adopting a crime syndicate masquerading as a religion in order to survive, as have "'Jews.'"
Your forgiveness and reconciliation is just overwhelming. But obviously there is a problem with your blind hate for jews today because of religious scripts 2000 years old - Talmud. Although you said:
"Well, all I can do is forgive them according to the dictates of my religion", you still blames the jews for all what's bad in that world - communism for example. Those accusation are meant to legitimize your hate, it is obvious that your hate is religious hate, a hate so famous, a hate because of which the dark ages were called that way. You should ask yourself how many victims there were to that christianity religious hate, believing the entire world should accept jesus. You claim that jews only have war and vengeance, but do you know how many innocent jews were slaughtered in medieval europe because of vengeance of jesus' death?
A non-hating person doesn't talk like you, but forgives and reconciles.
by Yosi on Tue Feb 03, 04 12:58pm
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Revisionist, you haven't commented on my comment "How could the khazars adopt a faith and the talmud which rejects them, I and any ametuer anthropoligist would think that they'll try to legitimize themselves - so did the Shomronim, Karaites and any other group of unaccepted jews. But as you said those khazars inherited even the mentality. I think it'll be an enormous task to convert whole tribe - millions you said to religion that from the first place rejects them. And even not to try to change it to legitimize themselves...
I'm by the way sepharadian jew, if you're interested, but this explanation should include the sepharadians convert - when did it took place and where? And if it did, how come those apperantly non-connected streams in judaism acknowledges one another, but don't acknowledge the rest of the cults claiming to be jewish?
And another thing, zionism I can understand, but how can you explain communism's link to judaism, which its main points are complete devotion to religion, and hitbadlut?
This too is antisemite claim, because communism wasn't a jewish invention, but it was invented and implemented by people some of whom were jews, but they were extreme secular jews, who neglected their religion - and thus the talmud's intentions... ", I'm sure that didn't convinced you so you probably missed that, but anyway - what do you think?
by Yosi on Tue Feb 03, 04 1:01pm
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Other subjects, you from some reason claim that judaism started in 70 A.D., again it is derived from your lack of understanding of judaism. You see, judaism had stages before it adopted its current features. Indeed 70 A.D. was thwe most dramatic switch, but the religion's basics are exactly the same. Untill 70 A.D. the holy temple existed, and the concept of concentration of god worship was valid, that meant that the religious rituals are performed only in the holy temple in jerusalem. But in 70 A.D. the second temple was burned down, and no other was built ever since. Unlike the period between 586BC-516BC, when the first temple was gone, judaism changed itself because the lack of the temple, to continue the rituals and jewish faith in order to survive as a religion without a temple, which was the only place in which they were allowed to worship god. So for example synagouges were created - to maintain judaism in foreign countries, while waiting for the messiah - return to zion and rebuilt of the temple... Since 70 A.D. god hasn't revealed to any prophet, so again judaism had to be changed to survive. You can't maintain a faith with no possibility of worship - this is the ceremonial need of the person - when it is gone, the person will look for it in other religions. But the jewish religion basically remained the same - as it did after the destruction of the first temple, those are just different stages in the evolution of religion.
by Yosi on Tue Feb 03, 04 1:15pm
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OMG, Revisionist. You are really an asshole, no question about it.
First of all, what's with the stupid ballot choices - do you think you're making an impression on anyone? Well, yeah. Maybe you are - sending a message to all others that you're a schmuck.
Secondly, regarding your "facts" and protests, I have never seen anything more twisted and biased in my whole life (maybe except the protocols of the elders of Zion). Sorry to tell you this, but you're a HUGE anti-semite. Look at your own problems and don't look at someone else's.
The Talmud is the thing that has guided Jews over these years. The talmud does not proclaim violence against anyone, except for those that affect and afflict the Jews. Almost all of your comments are bilge. How can you study Zohar, Talmud, Midrash Rabbah.. when you're not even a Jew? Clearly, you'll interpret everything according to the way that your racist mind works.
Keep your stupid comments to yourself, and don't give them to anyone else.
finished your rants, yet?
A people of unfailing resolve.
In other words they kicked the shit out of like 5 Arab countries...and this right after Hitler tried to exterminate them.
See: The War of Independence (1947-49)
Yes, as the safest and gentlest way to remove the excess blood from the area, you asshole.
True, to a person like you it looks perverted, but if you would open your narrow-minded way of thinking, you might see it differently.
Any tribe that is ostentatiously ethnocentric, hordes wealth, and insults outsiders, invites hatred upon itself..
slicing a penis open?
And you hint that I'M narrow-minded?
"A non-hating person doesn't talk like you, but forgives and reconciles."
Only a blind Judeophile overlooks that which is clearly wrong with Judaism.
"How come those apparently non-connected streams in Judaism acknowledges one another, but don't acknowledge the rest of the cults claiming to be Jewish?"
It works just like an insurance policy - a limit must be placed on the number of claimants.
"It works just like an insurance policy - a limit must be placed on the number of claimants. "
Yes you aren't paranoidic at all...
by Yosi on Wed Feb 04, 04 12:13am
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"Only a blind Judeophile overlooks that which is clearly wrong with Judaism. "
only a blind anti-semite judges people by their religions' 2000 years old scripts, which he apperantly doesn't understand
by Yosi on Wed Feb 04, 04 12:16am
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"This too is anti-Semite claim, because Communism wasn't a Jewish invention..."
What? Marx was not Jewish? He was the son of a long line of rabbis."...but it was invented and implemented by people some of whom were Jews, but they were extreme secular Jews, who neglected their religion - and thus the Talmud's intentions..."
No, what you have with Communism (and socialism in general) is the left side of the kabalistic Adam Kadmon scheme. I have read the Tanya. I know what I'm talking about.
Yup. It seems as if you've read a ton of Jewish stuff. And judging b your comments, you wasted your time, because only a bigot would post what you're posting.
"Keep your stupid comments to yourself, and don't give them to anyone else."
It's a good thing you're "physics_gal" and not "psychic_gal," because as far as real insight is concerned you are a complete fraud. Don't quit your day job, okay?
Good question, but I don't know.
My family were Mormon after the US revolution and before the Civil war and they were deemed heretics by the US Army and had a $20,000 price on each of their heads. My family had to go West just to live. I don't understand that kind of hate at all.
I don't hate the Jewish, I don't know anyone who is Jewish who is someone I could hate. Two of the people who are Jewish that I know are both Cardiologists, and just like anyone else.
I am sorry for you that you were not at least given the choice. I don't pity you, so don't get me wrong, I just think it is wrong for parents to force their own ideals onto their children.
I grew up in the Mormon church, I had the choice to believe there is a god or to believe in something else. My desire to find out what I believed in gave me a great deal of experience.
I studied witchcraft, voo doo, spiritualism, religion, and came out an agnostic. I believe in a higher plane of existance, but I think that if it actually does exist it is filled with those who came before us and it is them that watch over us.
The bible is a good history book that gives you a very open eyed view into the world's social history though. Read it, it could teach you a lot about people.
"Oh yeah, and I forgot the 'mezizah.' That is where the mohel sucks a little boys penis after circumcision. Nice Huh?"
That's what it's called, all right! Perhaps this is also the origin of the term "bloodsucking Jews."
"Yes, as the safest and gentlest way to remove the excess blood from the area, you asshole.
True, to a person like you it looks perverted, but if you would open your narrow-minded way of thinking, you might see it differently."
Never heard of gauze, Violinstrangler? Perverted indeed! You people are fucking vampires.
"Actually, the safest way would be not slicing a penis open. But that probably wouldn't be an option for an 'open minded' guy like you."
Sick-minded is more like it. Excellent interjection!
"Jews are probably the fist model minority! You have to admit that!! Thousands of years of persecution made them a stronger people-- it's incredible how they've survived this long with so many people wanting to get rid of them.I have to say I am impressed."
The fist model minority ... That says a lot. Okay, I guess surviving in spite of one's own tendency for self-destruction is a pretty big deal after all. Heck, it might even be a MIRACLE!!!
Revisionist, why'd you only give me one poll choice? I want 37 like Yosi, or at lest 10 like violinmeister8x.
Asshole.
"Yup. It seems as if you've read a ton of Jewish stuff. And judging by your comments, you wasted your time, because only a bigot would post what you're posting."
Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess it takes a bigot to take Jewish bigotry to task. Takes one to know one, perhaps? Whatever, babe - I mean, judge.
"Revisionist, why'd you only give me one poll choice? I want 37 like Yosi, or at lest 10 like violinmeister8x.
Asshole."
I did it MY WAY...
That's your problem. You think that your opinion, and only your opinion, counts. And you won't listen to anyone else.
"That's your problem. You think that your opinion, and only your opinion, counts. And you won't listen to anyone else."
Why should I, when I know I'm right? Are you listening to me? Hello. Can you hear me now?
Yes I can. Stop Screaming!
At least if you were screaming sense...
"Only a blind anti-Semite judges people by their religion's 2000 years old scripts, which he apparently doesn't understand."
Is that desperation or exasperation that I hear in your voice, Yosef?
"Yes I can. Stop Screaming! At least if you were screaming sense..."
Who's screaming?
neither. Grim determination, and rightfully so.
And I don't give a damn if that comment wasn't directed towards me.
Grim determination to rule the world.
Yup. To overcome the other 98%.
"To overcome the other 98%."
Oh, you're still falling for that "helpless minority" fraud? Poor you.
"Revisionist, why would anybody listen to YOU, when you're acting as immature as a 2-year- old, by posting about 70 stupid ballot choices!?"
YOU are apparently listening.
revisionist just get to the point, if you have one. So far you've been talking in circles. Is your point that Christianity is superior to Judaism, or that Judaism is another stupid religion, or that your just a schizophrenic. Because, no offense, so far you have been mostly raving to yourself.
"Revisionist just get to the point, if you have one. So far you've been talking in circles. Is your point that Christianity is superior to Judaism, or that Judaism is another stupid religion, or that your just a schizophrenic. Because, no offense, so far you have been mostly raving to yourself."
You're paying very little attention to what I have said.
"Through one ear and out the other. Your facts are messed up, majorly. Your anti-semitism overcomes your reasoning, and you're a plain old lunatic, to most people. And I'm not even a Jew. I'm MUSLIM!"
If you're Muslim there should be a lot more anger to your tone. Frankly, I think you're lying.
Yosi, if Khazars and Sephardis are so fond of the convert to Judaism, why are not Black Jews acceptible?
"And there isn't a lot of anger to my tone, because I know you're wrong, that's why. I don't like Jews, I'll tell you that. But the stuff that you wrote are completely twisted - even we, Muslims know that. I can't speak for every Muslim but I think that what the Palestinians are doing are wrong, and that your comments about Judaism are way out of line."
Are Muslims allowed to lie? Christians are not, and I have not told one lie in this entire discourse.
"Is pedophilia natural? Is bestiality natural? Is incest natural?"
I don't know what caused you to bring upthese subjects, but since you did I will say that Judaism sanctions all of them for "Jews." Oh, and Jewish males are not to be suspected of homosexuality. The Rabbis say it doesn't happen, and that's just it.
"BTW, do you post a stupid ballot choice after EVERY comment???
That's sad."
It's no worse than the Democratic ballot for president. Kerry is a "Jew." Lieberman is a Modern Orthodox "Jew." Dean is married to a Jewess.
I would certainly like to know why, if Jewish people are likened unto God (as Judaism clearly indicates), why then are they susceptible to harm? Shouldn't "gods" be immortal?
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