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IF THERE'S GOD, THEN HOW CAN HE EXPLAIN THE FACT THAT...

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IF THERE'S GOD, THEN HOW CAN HE EXPLAIN THE FACT THAT...


[+] ballot by william_wallce
created Mon Feb 02, 04

1. holocaust existed and innocent people died from the Nazi killing machine.

2. The acceleration of universe expension

3. Relativity & Quantum mechanic, which explains why nature works in a way it works

4. Rich & Poor (The British Royal Family and a commoner)

5. the possible existance of extraterrestrial in outer space

when you answer my question, i want you to include every factors i mentioned above.

therefore god does not exist
no our almighty exists 'nomatterwhat'
Man within biosphere Earth may develop as he will
we are not robot, God allows us freewill
Who the hell knows whether God exists anyways?
GOD IS A MYTH, JUST LIKE SATAn
because you have a pickle for a mustache
he's god, he could prove shitlots!!
God exists, where just here for his entertanment
u suck thats why. who's with me???
God is for ants and you kill them


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yes this is the proof that god does not exist. People, get into reality!
by william_wallce on Mon Feb 02, 04 7:13pm [+]

ignorance is bliss
by MeNaCe on Mon Feb 02, 04 7:19pm [+]

1)God is sovereign. He's not responsible for death or sickness. It's mans' sinful natural that causes sickness and death.like war, dictatorship,rulers who don't care, etc. 2)Universe expansion-The Univers is and was always the same size. the planets and Milkyways are just moving further apart. 3)Nature-nater works. male/female, Sperm for mammals. Male/female. pollen and spores for the plants. There are a-sexual life forms such as worms,germs,viruses,etc 4)who's knows? 5)the possibility that there is life out there is just a possibility. there is no real hard evidence. as much as i would like to beleive-i haven't seen anything by the same token. But God said,this is it. just us.
by GaymanBrian4Christ on Mon Feb 02, 04 7:34pm [+]

U fucking morons. Its useless to try to show u the truth. Just don't believe in God and then when u die try to explain to St. Peter or whoever guards the gates try to tell him and Jesus how u thought God didn't exist. or u found science to help ur problems.
by Guest User from [24.26.28.203] on Mon Feb 02, 04 8:50pm [+]

first of all you misuse the word innocent - don't you know that nobody is innocent

second of all one of your points supports the existence of god (2)

three of your points are irrelevant (1,3,4) and one of your points is ambiguous (5)

i am not saying god exists (it's dead actually) i am saying that your poll sucks and you are an idiot.
by bilbo on Mon Feb 02, 04 9:08pm [+]

I think that those examples you give are really not the best examples to prove or disprove God’s existence. You cannot give me five or six instances and tell me God does not exist because of those. Two of those things that happen are unfortunate, but that is a part of life. It is a part of that grand mystery that we will never understand, at least not until we die and see what is really out there. As for your scientific circumstances, as you know, nobody who is here now was around the time of Christ, so it really is unfair to pit science versus religion. They are two different sciences, and while one might strive to explain the other, it will never happen. Also, I am curious as to what ‘God’ you ask about. Is it a Christian God? A Muslim God? My God? Your God? Joe from next door, his God? Your reality and my reality are not the same. So what reality should I get into exactly?
by ladyluck_26 on Mon Feb 02, 04 9:54pm [+]

I ask, 'if god exists, does he know what 'quantum physics' is? Is that something he created or something just happened in nature after the Bing Bang
by william_wallce on Tue Feb 03, 04 7:21am [+]

and if he exists, how can he explain the unjustice in this world, where sometimes the bad wins over the goods. is this world the god intended to creat?
by william_wallce on Tue Feb 03, 04 7:23am [+]

I see this as inadequate proof of God's nonexistence, and I'll tell you why.

First off, I have seen murals and paintings of my God. In all the renditions, he is the one with the biggest hat. He has the biggest hat of any deity I've ever seen. And I ask you, how can the God with the biggest hat not be real? Think with your heart instead of your mind, and it will be clear to you that the biggest hat must belong to God.

Second off, God's hat is not just any hat. I went to a religious museum where my God's ORIGINAL, REAL hat is on display. And you know what color the hat is? Green and pink. That's right, ladies and germs, His hat is GREEN AND PINK. Have you ever seen a green and pink hat before? Neither have I. They do not exist. That's because no accessory manufacturers PRODUCE green and pink hats. this can mean only one thing. THE HAT BELONGS TO GOD HIMSELF.

I ask you all to repent, abandon your lives of sin and listen to your hearts. God exists. he put his hat here on Earth as a reminder that he is the only and only Lord God. He wants you to know that if you believe in him and lead a life of repentance, you too can have a big hat in the Great Hereafter.

So it was spoken. Praise be to God.

Jannine 69:96
by Jannine on Tue Feb 03, 04 7:39am [+]

Does this mean that God works at Krispy Kreme?
by Stewie on Tue Feb 03, 04 9:37am [+]

Oh, Krispy Kreme has green and pink hats?
by Jannine on Tue Feb 03, 04 9:39am [+]

Well, god could exist, but then there's...

A retarded chimp president, 9/11, the holocaust, and all the goddamn wars this fucked up country has had. I think that it's impossible to know if god exists.
by Silly_Pickle on Tue Feb 03, 04 11:05am [+]

Exactly right, buddy. That's why I'm agnostic too.
by Jannine on Tue Feb 03, 04 11:07am [+]

Most of the questions were adequztely answered, but I see some people are still having trouble with #1... Humanity is endowed, by God, with free will/ freedom of choice. If all actions or choices, both good and bad produced the same effect, how would one ever learn to choose the good and reject the bad? Finite beings with personal will power must be allowed to suffer the consequences of wrong choices if they are to learn that the good is to be valued over the bad. As you know, we sometimes pay the price for others' freedom of choice. We are not perfect... only God is. God of course knew the choice of bloodshed (the holocaust)would be made by some, and they will suffer the consequences for their actions. He doesn't intervene with free will...it is as simple as that.
by Cheesecake on Tue Feb 03, 04 2:04pm [+]

How do you know that the size of the universe has always been the same size, especially since most current physics theories predict that the big bang occured??

The best arguement for God's exsistence come from the fact that most fundemental constants of nature are so finely tuned that if one were to alter slightly any of the constants life could not have existed, the chances that the constants could have been chosen at random to give life are so small as to make it seem as if some being picked the constants to allow life to exist.
by deloprator2000 on Wed Feb 04, 04 1:17am [+]

god was created by man
by frank_kiefer on Wed Feb 04, 04 8:34pm [+]

Wouldn't that make you agnostic?
by User-Abuser on Thu Feb 05, 04 4:49pm [+]

(I'm Paul) No. "We can be certain of nothing" is a truth, and everything else is a belief. Intelligent beliefs rely on the validity of the senses and human reasoning. 1+1=2 is a belief. There is enough evidence against the bible, jesus, creationism, etc. and lack of evidence for theism to convince me that a god of religion has never existed. Of course, I can never know that for certain, but it appears to be the more likely.
by Sgt_Hartman on Sat Feb 07, 04 9:28pm [+]

Brilliant reasoning (cough, cough), but if you say that you can be certain of anything than you are saying you are either infallable or omniscient, both of which are absurd. By your comment, I take it that you don't believe in objective truth? That whatever you believe is correct?
by Sgt_Hartman on Mon Feb 09, 04 7:05pm [+]

Again, I am mesmerized by your logic. How about backing your statements up with some evidence? And try not to give some stupid ass idiotic response like "God is everywhere and everything".
by Sgt_Hartman on Thu Feb 12, 04 3:21pm [+]

In reality the situation is that I am right. People who say there is no God are wrong. All questions of religion aside. The above post shows the length some people will go to to get you into their cults but be sure of this one thing: God exists and if you want to confirm it for yourself you can. No amount of anybody's scorn or feigned incredulity will change my mind because I know my mind. ---True, if I want to believe unquestionably in God, then he will exist... in my mind. But whether he exists in reality is a different topic. You say that people who believe there is no god are wrong, and I believe that people who say there is a god of religion (whether Christian, Jew, Arab, etc.) are probably wrong. Now, reality would tell us that one of us is correct and one of us is incorrect. But you seem to say that whatever YOU believe is correct. If you were convinced that dinosaurs were actually chocolate-covered raisins, would they truly be chocolate-covered raisins?
by Sgt_Hartman on Mon Feb 16, 04 2:08pm [+]

God gave us free will, if he steped in to solve all our problems then we wouldnt be free and would be no better then robots. As for that science stuff I believe he created the scientific laws.
by seon on Mon Mar 29, 04 9:29pm [+]

"just feel (especially when you are alone)" when you're alone you feel your SELF, dumbass
by xxxxxxxx on Wed Mar 31, 04 7:01pm [+]

I think a seal is a transitional animal.
by Dot on Wed Aug 25, 04 2:57am [+]

24.64.173.108
by cretin_slap on Fri Oct 15, 04 7:31am [+]

1. As far as the Nazis goes, It was just time for those people to die. This is going to sound stupid, but If that wouldn't have happened, Israel wouldn't be a state, we wouldn't have the middle east crisis, so we wouldn't have set the stage for the end of the world. The point is, everything happens for a reason. This answer isn't very satisfying, but its all part of the Big Plan. As far as individual fairness to each person goes, for a religious person, it doesn't matter how long you live, what matters is what you do in the time you have, and what will be gained for the Hereafter.

2. As for the expansion of the Universe, it was revealed in the Qu'ran long before conventional science discovered it, in Surah 51:47. 'And the heavens(universe) we constucted with power and skill, and verily, we are expanding it.'

3. For this, I'm not sure what you're talking about, but just because nature works in a certain way doesn't mean that it did so on its own, or on accident. The entire universe is organized, and structured. Planets revolve on their axis, the water cycle, the cycle of birth and death, the reproductive cycle, everything has an order, a structure. To say that this organizatonal structure manifested itself isn't very convincing to me.

4. As for rich and poor, again, If the meaning of life was to be the best in this world, then heaven wouldn't exist. The fact is, it matters what we do with what we have. On the Day of Judgement, the money the Royal family has will not help them the least on making it into heaven. It will be according to their faith and their deeds. A homeless person who gives away one loaf of bread is just as good as a rich person who gives 10,000 to charity.

5. For the 'possible' existence of life in outer space, something's 'possible' existence doesn't disprove that God exists. In the Qu'ran it says God 'created seven heavens, and of the earth a similiar number.' Some people say that this means other life could exist, others say it pertains to the earth, and its seven layers(troposphere, stratosphere, etc.). Whatever the case, I don't think it disproves God.

I hope I didn't sound too much like a raving religious lunatic. Very good ballot.
by Spirit_of_Truth on Sun Oct 17, 04 12:40am [+]

If there is a god he's certainly not a bearded human being nor nothing we can understand with our limited braincells for millions seem a large number but they're not far from the number of cells in a dog brain.

If there's a god then it should be above all life and death and particulary our species centered, binary way of understanding everything son he doesn't give a damn about holocausts or your life, for me he's just the sum of every existance and not existance and we are a smallest part of one endless system. all human's mass is not bigger than the mass of all the ants in the world and the world is a rather small planet. why sould god care?

if there is a god don't you think he should also be above of any 'care for' related ideas and motivation and using the world as a big chessboard? that kind of tought is just romantic fantasy.

you're talking about a tipical judaic god. there are more gods to explore.

god exists but he has nothing to do with religion.
by don_perro on Mon Oct 18, 04 2:35am [+]

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