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IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A JIHAD AND A CRUSADE?

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IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A JIHAD AND A CRUSADE?


[+] ballot by I_Always_Lie
created Wed Feb 04, 04

Christains have their crusades, Muslims have their jihads. You say potatoes, I say potatoes... Let's call the whole thing off.

No
Yes
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Jihad is Evil, cruisades are Good
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COMMENTS:
same can be said about being a soldier and terrorist. depends on which side you are on.
by LCD on Thu Feb 05, 04 3:47am [+]

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."
by User-Abuser on Thu Feb 05, 04 5:53am [+]

Palestinians want to take back land that had been taken in war. So you agree, crusades and jihads are the same.
by I_Always_Lie on Fri Feb 06, 04 8:59pm [+]

The crusades were ultimately a barbarous attempt to control the middle east. All though in theory they were well intentioned and just, they were riddled with attempts by petty lords to achieve personal greatness and wealth. Those who justify their disdain for Jihad on the basis that the crusade has long been abandoned whereas Jihad has'nt should note that no Muslim power has tanks parked outside their window.
by OJD on Tue Feb 10, 04 9:45am [+]

Let's see - a jihad is a religiously motivated systematic slaughter of those who hold different beliefs. A crusade is a religiously motivated systematic slaughter of those who hold different beliefs. Nope, no difference.
by Biggus_Dickus on Wed Feb 11, 04 10:52am [+]

A Jihad is just some little men riding donkeies or camels going to get themselves killed.

A crusade is when my faithful servant, G. Bush bombing the crap out of those little men. See the difference?

Once again, thou shall not ask foolish question.
by Jesus_christ on Thu Feb 26, 04 5:07am [+]

Crusades were military expeditions by Christian rulers to take back the land taken by the Muslims. Jihad is a much wide term meaning 'struggle against vice or evil'. Jihad can be against any evil, the biggest Jihad being the one against one's own illicit desires. Mistakenly, nonMuslims take Jihad in only military terms, which is just a type of Jihad, specifically known as "Qidaal". Therefore, the two are not the same thing. And Jihad cannot be called off as fight against evil will continue the Day of Judgement.
by ice on Fri Mar 05, 04 2:13am [+]

omsama or bush their both dumb shits
by frank_kiefer on Tue Mar 09, 04 10:06pm [+]

OJD(above)calls the crusades "just". THose chritians slaughtered the entire population of Jerusalem(35,000 at the time) when they took the city. Christians are more violent than muslims. Dont forget, the nazis were christians too.
by frank_kiefer on Sun Mar 21, 04 7:48pm [+]

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG, the qoran never specifically targets civilians, in fact, the qoran specifically states that 'those who kill the innocent' meaning non combatives, women, children, and men, shall suffer the same fate that was delivered to the innocent 'a thousand times over in hell'. But the poor idiot terrorists who kill innocent people, they are too stupid to know the whole qoran and instead are brainwashed by those who take little bits of the islam religion and twist it all around till it's not even about religion or spirituality anymore, but it's all about greed, money, and power. That's all Bin Laden cares about, is power, he wants NAME RECOGNITION, he doesn't care about Allah or the afterlife, or even about muslims in general, all he knows how to do is fight, and by picking the United States as an enemy, he is able to continue fighting. He just uses Islam as a thinly veiled guise to suit his own greedy personal means.
by jappy on Fri Apr 02, 04 12:12am [+]

It's a big subject to study but in simple terms. The early Jihads of war or "holy war" were aggresive conquests and invasions by Muslims to subdue unbelievers, all for the expasion and spread of Islam. In contrast, the Crusades were Christian armies coming to the defence of these conqured Christian lands to repel these invading and occupying Muslims.
by Jinn_the_Kafir on Fri Apr 02, 04 12:30am [+]

Jappy,

I recommend that you read the Quran much more closely. How can anyone justify these hate-laden verses of Quran? They are not even respectful of people’s right to choose and not even respectful of their lives. But I do respect people’s right to choose and their lives.

9:123 Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.

9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them

9:29 Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute by hand, being inferior

3:85 Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him; in the next world he shall be among the losers.

5:11 And as for those who disbelieve and reject Our Signs, they are the people of Hell"

9:28 O you who believe! Verily, the Mushrikûn (unbeleivers) are Najasun (impure). So let them not come near Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (at Makkah) after this year, …

2:193 Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah”

22:19“As for the unbelievers for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowls and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods. “

9:23 O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love Infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, hey do wrong.

25:52 So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them herewith with a great endeavor.

66:9O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end.

47:4 When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives.

3:28 Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah. except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (to fear) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
by Jinn_the_Kafir on Fri Apr 02, 04 12:44am [+]

A jihad is quite amateurish but the muslims increase the horror for the buck (=more death and mutilation for smaller bombs). They also suicide bomb (=smart bombs). It's by pure stupidity ("in the name of Allah"). Muslims are happy when one of their buddies fight for Allah.

A crusade is more professional: organized armies, hi-tek, etc. Most of the time its masqueraded as "not religious". Of course its still a little dogmatic but the main goal is profit (like Oil, Armament industries contracts, etc).

A crusade is understandable: people profit from it... And it cleans the planet from sandn****rs.
The Jihad is insane. Just a bunch of brainwashed idiots who wreck havok because they think they will go to Allah's brothel where angels will give their blowjobs for eternity.
by xxxxxxxx on Fri Apr 02, 04 6:35am [+]

I have to quote George Carlin a bit here.

"Do you believe in God?" "No." BAM! Dead!

"How about you? Do you believe in God?" "Yes." "Do you believe in MY God?" "No." BAM! Dead! "My God has a bigger dick than your God!"
by LudwigVan on Tue Apr 13, 04 2:16am [+]

Jihad is Islamic consept that means defend the rights of muslims and attack the enemy. BUT Jihad have stipulations that the muslim dont have the right of killing children, woman and old people.

Also they dont allawoe to attack other in the night because it will make children,woman and old man afread.

- Muslims must tried to not make any damage to the trees or rights of others


Look every body although its a way to returen muslimz rights

but it have a requrements & stipulations


tell me which religion think about other feeling

You sister.. Tommyan
by Tommyan on Tue May 04, 04 5:12pm [+]

Depends if your religion runs the world
by LRonCupboard on Tue Jun 08, 04 2:33pm [+]

Tidbits From The Jewish Talmud:

Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men").

Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals ("she-asses").

Jews are Divine, Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews, Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status, Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews, Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).

Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews, Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
by xxxxxxxx on Sun Sep 12, 04 5:04pm [+]






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