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I was there.Trust me it was bad.I got a realy bad cold.DAAAHMM YOU NAAAZZII BAAASSSTAARRDSS!
Do you know undertakers who needs to cremate hundreds of bodies simultaniously in huge crematoriums? Ask them about how they do it.
If you have trouble in finding such undertakers, know that the nazis are quite experienced - check it there.
by yosi on Fri Feb 06, 04 3:32am
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Yea.We gotta get jobs for those poor out of work nazi crematers.We might need them soon.
Anonymous, I really don't know the details of the Indian holocaust, but I don't think that it was the US government that ordered to systematically get rid of all the Indians and used them as forced workforce... If it did, this is an interesting case, but I think it was private people who did this to the Indians.
But let me tell you this: It was germany who offered to compensate the jews' who survived the nazi regime, and many didn't want to allow the germans to clean themselves by money. Moreover, I don't think that Germany has paid for all what the nazis robbed from jews and the countries of europe, so don't think that the jews robbed Germany, but it was the other way around, at start.
I'll just add that I'm not holding the nazis' crimes against the present German people.
by yosi on Fri Feb 06, 04 6:31am
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Its the nazis feel soory for If it wasnt for them we wouldnt have christmas
Its the nazis i feel sorry they have such a bad rep But If it wasnt for them we wouldnt have christmas
I typed that first one in right but tht retards at Best and Worst put in wrong
Anonymous, I meant that the germans robbed the countries of europe, and the jews, so if you care so much for the german money given to jews, you should know that Germany earned from the jews, I think, much more then it payed them back.
Can't you see the difference between "herding" people into reservations and systematical slaving the jews to death and eventually annihilating the entire race?
Well, anyway, I won't defend what the Americans did to the indians, it was wrong to, but I'm not sure as to what extent.
by yosi on Fri Feb 06, 04 8:07am
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take those guys dicks from your hands sayin_now_fools then you might be able to type correctly.Your hands are full of pubes.
YUKKA YUKKA!!
How come no one ever offers me any reparations? I want some too. I'm as good as any Jew out there.
uh? the what now?
Do Jews realy exist? Its a hoax or something.I always fall for that.
I found a jew in my rice crispies once
It has been exaggerated by all these Jew groups over the years. They use the holocaust as an international extortion racket and undeserved sympathy. Jews are the real evil-doers
"Do you know undertakers who need to cremate hundreds of bodies simultaneously in huge crematoria? Ask them about how they do it.
If you have trouble in finding such undertakers, know that the Nazis are quite experienced - check it there."
How is experience gained in the pursuit of a veritable impossibilty, Yosi? Did time somehow slow down during WWII?
Were it not for the Holy Hoax, Yosi would have to live elsewhere than the Israeli state.
"Can't you see the difference between 'herding' people into reservations and (the) systematical slaving (of) the Jews to death and eventually annihilating the entire race?"
What race, Yosi? Yours? The Khazars? Whose?
"Well, anyway, I won't defend what the Americans did to the Indians. It was wrong to, but I'm not sure as to what extent."
You're not sure because nothing may exceed the extent of your own people's "suffering." Yours is always greater regardless of the true "extent."
Also, Yosi, why were "Jews" among the richest people in Europe during the Great Depression? Why is it that only "Jews" were people of means during the interwar years in Germany?
Perhaps Yosi should get over himself and his own people, and venture to examine some other of history's holocausts before masquerading as a "Holocaust(TM) expert."
"I'll just add that I'm not holding the nazis' crimes against the present German people."
How magnanimous of you, Yosi. I thank you on behalf of the "present" German people. Now, if we could just get you to see that you have no consanguineous relationship to Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob...
Whoever wrote "Undertakers cremate one body at a time..U moron," apparently could not see that this is exactly my point. How moronic.
"How is experience gained in the pursuit of a veritable impossibilty, Yosi? Did time somehow slow down during WWII? "
What are you talking about? I checked in th dictionary for nothing, please don't do that again. Anyway, you hadn't answered to the simple disprove of your "math calculations" - Nobody claimed that the Germans cremated people one at the time. I'm sure the german efficiency had overcome those minor problems...
About your second remark, it can be correct,it's possible that Israel wouldn't have been created and that I was living there, but Britain's de-colonization, would probably include this area anyway, and the zionists arrived even before WWII, but most of the jewish people didn't believe that the holocaust that the zionists predicted to jews abroad would eventually arrive.
by yosi on Mon Feb 09, 04 5:07am
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Jews were rich even before the great depression, but if I were you, I would check your books, because they weren't the only "people of means". By the way, if the jews were those with the means = production means, why do you blame them for Communism as well? Back to the point, you can check ballot #2422, you will find there a scoop - a jew which relates to the Armenian holocaust - me! There you'll also find explanation why the Armenian holocaust and others called like that, while the jews' holocaust is "the holocaust".
by yosi on Mon Feb 09, 04 5:12am
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"How magnanimous of you, Yosi. I thank you on behalf of the "present" German people. Now, if we could just get you to see that you have no consanguineous relationship to Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob... "
What's your point? That the current Germans aren't related to the nazis? And by the way, you still never explained the problems which I presented in your theory, the main is how did the Khazars adopted a faith which alledgedly rejects them, claiming that only jews are the holy people?
by yosi on Mon Feb 09, 04 5:15am
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IF A suspect'S STORY IS SHAKY, THEN YOU AUTOMATICALLY LABEL HIM AND HE's FULL OF SHIT
ALL RELIGION ARE SHAKY
EVERYONE FULL OF SHIT
ESPEShALLY JOOS!
JEWS ARE A PAIN THAT DOES NOT RECEED!
AMERICANISM IS A DISEASE OF NO CURE!
EUROPEANS ARE A CANCER TO INTELLIGENCE!
ASIANS ARE A PUNCHLINE TO THE WORLD!
AFRICA IS A BUFFONERY!
ENDLESS SOURCE OF JACKASS IS SOUTH AMERICA!
VIVA LA GREENLAND!
"What's your point? That the current Germans aren't related to the Nazis?"
Maybe you and Daniel Jonah Goldhagen can explain to me how they are and will be until the end of time.
It's just as I said, Judaism is such a lame religion that it cannot afford to forgive.
"...you still never explained the problems which I presented in your theory, the main is how did the Khazars adopted a faith which allegedly rejects them, claiming that only Jews are the holy people?"
Perhaps then you and King Bulan can explain it to me. For some odd reason, Yosi, the majority of "Jews" today are Turko-Mongoloid Khazars.
The original Jacobite tribe of Judah is long extinct, Yosi. Face it. It's over.
All that you have left is the inheritance of the leaven of the Pharisees.
"Maybe you and Daniel Jonah Goldhagen can explain to me how they are and will be until the end of time."
Still not sure what are you talikng about. You can't expect all the jews to forgive the germans in that or even the next generation. The memory of the holocaust should never be forgotten, but I think that as the time passes, jews will be less angry at their current time's germans.
"It's just as I said, Judaism is such a lame religion that it cannot afford to forgive. "
If judaism is so lame, because it hasn't forrgiven the germans for crimes their grandfathers did 60 years ago, what does it make you? You still holding against the current jews, scripts written by people generations ago, in the time of the Talmud. And again you're making a generalization, it doesn't include many jews, although I think that the majority still hadn't forgiven. It will take time anyway.
by yosi on Tue Feb 10, 04 3:10am
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"Perhaps then you and King Bulan can explain it to me. For some odd reason, Yosi, the majority of 'Jews' today are Turko-Mongoloid Khazars. "
You apperantly assume that your poibt is proven, and throws the duty to prove the point at me. So no, me nor king Bulan (who?) can or should explain my questions. Most of the jews today are Khazars according to you, simply because most of the jews are 'Ashkenazim' - jews who lived in europe, and the only difference between them and sepharadians, are slightly different rythem in prayers (which are identical). Those differences were caused by different cultural influence of their sorrounding - europe for Ashkenazim and spain's arabs for Spharadim.
by yosi on Tue Feb 10, 04 3:15am
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I'm not sure about the jacobite, but the tribes who later formed the "united kingdom" of david in 1004 B.C., is my certain anchor, which still contains the right to Israel.
by yosi on Tue Feb 10, 04 3:18am
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"Still not sure what are you talking about."
Daniel Jonah Goldhagen is a pseudo-scholar who wrote "Hitler's Willing Executioners," basically blaming all Germans for having a "killer gene." The very idea is patently ridiculous.
The difference, yosi, is that the majority of today's Germans find Mein Kampf to be an abhorrant piece of hate literature, while the majority of today's Jews worship the hateful Taldmud as the word of God. The MAIN difference between the Sephardim and Ashkenazi Khazars is that the Sephardim DO NOT believe in the Talmud, only the Torah, and as such, are treated like second-class citizens in "israel", living in caamps in much the same state as the Palestinians. You know the truth, so why do you LIE?
Is itt because "the Chosen people of God" have formed such a degenerate state of affairs that it cannot bear the scrutiny of the outside world?
You can't expect all the Jews to forgive the Germans in that or even the next generation."
I would expect many more than have to forgive, because not doing so is ultimately to their own detriment. What bothers me is that Judaism has not nearly been taken to task for ITS crimes against God and humanity.
"The memory of the Holocaust should never be forgotten..."
That "memory" has been wildly exaggerated, and I find that unconscionable. It makes your people out to be bald-faced liars with no compunction for the lunacy of their claims.
"...but I think that as the time passes, Jews will be less angry at their current time's Germans."
I will believe it when I see it. As long as there is money to milk from Germans it will be very slow in coming.
"If Judaism is so lame, because it hasn't forgiven the Germans for crimes their grandfathers did 60 years ago, what does it make you? You (are) still holding against the current Jews scripts written by people generations ago, in the time of the Talmud."
Those scripts of which you speak are to this day held in very high esteem. And the actions of Zionists in your "state" prove that the wickedness of Talmud is their ultimate inspiration. But, of course, you are an atheist, so how would you know?
"And again you're making a generalization, it doesn't include many Jews, although I think that the majority still hadn't forgiven. It will take time anyway."
It will take an eternity, I'm afraid, because the religion of Judaism is not capable of forgiveness. It stands in contrast to Christianity that way.
"You apparently assume that your point is proven, and throws the duty to prove the point at me. So no, me nor King Bulan (who?) can or should explain my questions."
Yosi, your "knowledge" of Judaic history is based upon little more than Zionist propaganda. It goes to show with what deftness the Rabbis manipulate the "Jewish" people.
King Bulan was the kagan, or king, of the Khazars, who converted along with his subjects to Judaism. You should know these things.
the jewish holocaust is trademarked?
"Most of the Jews today are Khazars according to you..."
Not just me, Yosi, but some of the leading Judaic scholars today: Kevin Brook, Paul Wexler, Yair Davidy, et al.
"...simply because most of the Jews are 'Ashkenazim' - Jews who lived in Europe..."
Those "Jews" migrated westward from Khazaria into Poland, and from Poland into western Europe. Besides, Ashkenaz was a descendant of Japheth, not Shem.
"...and the only difference between them and Sephardim, are slightly different rhythm in prayers (which are identical)."
Why do I care?
"Those differences were caused by the cultural influences of their surroundings - Europe for Ashkenazim and Spain's Arabs for Sephardim."
There's much more to the story, Yosi.
"the jewish holocaust is trademarked?"
No, not officially. It's a joke of mine to put (TM) at the end, as a jab at non-Jews who fall for the scam of its "enormity."
"I'm not sure about the Jacobite, but the tribes who later formed the "united kingdom" of David in 1004 B.C., is my certain anchor, which still contains the right to Israel."
It's over, Yosi. Those tribes are extinct. If you can bring yourself to do it, read Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 in the Christian New Testament. Today's "Jews" are imposters.
"The difference, yosi, is that the majority of today's Germans find Mein Kampf to be an abhorrant piece of hate literature..."
Correct.
"...while the majority of today's Jews worship the hateful Talmud as the word of God. The MAIN difference between the Sephardim and Ashkenazi Khazars is that the Sephardim DO NOT believe in the Talmud, only the Torah, and as such, are treated like second-class citizens in "israel", living in camps in much the same state as the Palestinians. You know the truth, so why do you LIE?"
Well, hold the phone, there, Violater, for just a second. As I said in another post (perhaps you did not see it), this is not the case with Sephardim. The Karaites, yes, but not the Sephardim.
Moses Maimonides was a Sephardic "Jew," a Talmudist, and one of the most evil men who ever lived. He is regarded as a "giant" in Judaic scholarship today.
"Is it because 'the Chosen people of God' have formed such a degenerate state of affairs that it cannot bear the scrutiny of the outside world?"
This is largely true, but we have to take into account those "Jews" who have thrown off the Rabbis' yoke, and are not afraid to speak freely about Judaism. That is how I know most of what I know.
Again, Yosi, all that you have left is the inheritance of the leaven of the Pharisees. You ignored this comment of mine. Why?
Consider the fact here, Violater, that Yosi is a Sephardi "Jew." He does not worship the Talmud necessarily. But he has gone out of his atheist way to defend it.
Well, I now have to research Karites. Thank you for teaching me something. As for Yosi, if you are an atiest, what are you doing there? If you reject even the religion which lays claim to Palestine, why do you steal from them?
The_Revisionist: Early in 1942, plans were drawn up for a new crematorium at Auschwitz with an additional 15 chambers but, in summer 1942 these plans were enlarged and it was decided to install an additional 46, rather than 15, chambers and to situate them in the new and huge "Birkenau" or "Auschwitz II" section of the camp. Specifically, Crematorium II and Crematorium III were to be mirror images of one another, having 15 chambers each. Crematorium IV and Crematorium V were to have eight chambers each. The new crematoria were more or less ready in spring 1943. Buchenwald had a six chamber crematorium, installed in 1942, and perhaps two additional chambers installed earlier; Buchenwald also had access to the civilian crematorium that existed in Weimar. Dauchau had a two chamber crematorium before 1942, when a four chamber crematorium was constructed. We may take both Buchenwald and Dachau as having at least six chambers each... And those are the numbers from only three of the many concentration/ extermination camps.
Most of the improved chambers could cremate between 4 and 5 bodies every 25 minutes. Overloading of the furnaces caused the camp authorities to improvise and burn corpses outdoors in pits. Unimpeded operation of either all of the chambers or all of the pits had the capacity to yield 5 thousand corpses each daily.
Bodies were sorted into combustability catagories as the result of earlier experiments by the SS staff to reduce fuel consumption. By the end of the war, the shortage of fuel resulted in piles of bodies in the camps, waiting to be buried.
6,017,760 people died in the Holocaust.
"The difference, yosi, is that the majority of today's Germans find Mein Kampf to be an abhorrant piece of hate literature, while the majority of today's Jews worship the hateful Taldmud as the word of God."
Or maybe they don't? Again I'll emphasize that I don't believe that the Germans aren't ashamed of Mein Kampf, but lets just assume. You apperantly can blame current Zionism for following the Talmud, so I'll just bring an example of Germany's implementation of Mein Kampf. In the 1980's untill Kuwait's invasion, German companies encouraged by their government, secretely sold to Iraq nerve gasses. They kept this a secret, because they don't want anybody to know, just like the evil jews, that they are following Mein Kampf and Nazis' crimes - by supplying gas that will later be used to exterminate jews by Sadaam Hussein - The perfect cover for the renewed Germany. When it was discovered, the germans wanted to silence it as fast as possible, so people won't do that 1+1, so they have reached a compensation deal with Israel (That is their way of hiding their real intentions, giving money, while secretly prepare the second final solution). Now, of course that I think it's BS, but the facts about the deal and gasses are correct. I'm just wondering how can you defend the germans, I just want to see if you do a better job then me trying to prove that Zionism don't follow the Talmud.
by yosi on Tue Feb 10, 04 11:49pm
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"Those scripts of which you speak are to this day held in very high esteem. And the actions of Zionists in your "state" prove that the wickedness of Talmud is their ultimate inspiration. But, of course, you are an atheist, so how would you know? "
We, in contrast to the germans and other, don't burn books, especiallt not those related to our religion. But those books reflect that time, in which the jews had to had reasons why not to convert to christianity. Today it is obsolete, but their intention (real inrtention, not what you claim) remains the same. You still haven't brought a shred of evidence to Zionism's evil, I'm really looking forward to that. I guess you can call it a zionist propeganda, but this is what they teach us in schools. And no, they don't teach us the "real" judaism and force us to deny it in international forum. Don't you think there are many Israelis that would happily expose that alleged jewish scum?
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 12:09am
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"Again, Yosi, all that you have left is the inheritance of the leaven of the Pharisees. You ignored this comment of mine. Why?"
Correct me if I'm wrong - the pharisees are the jews of before 70 AD, right? So you claimed that they aren't jews in the same way that we are, in terms of different faith. So yes, the jewish faith has evolved through the ages, especially whne the second temple was destroyed in 70AD, that was the beginning of synagouges' widespread and the longest peroid away from our homeland. So, even back then, there were 2 centres of jewish communities - the Zion's center and Babylonian center. After 70 AD, jews immigrated from ruined Zion, and this centre's influence has declined. At that time there was still a large community of jews or pharisees in Babylon. That centre existed and was the centre of judaism untill 7th, 8th century, when the muslim emerged and conquered vast areas. I'm sure that you're aware of books containing questions to the Geunim - religious leaders of the jewish people from all over the known world, to which the jews immigrated. Anyway, whenever they encountered an unattended problem, they described it to the Babylonian jews, which answered them and kept those questions and answered in books - I think the Halacha or something like that. Now following the muslim expansion to Spain, a new jewish center emerged there - and again there are those letters and stuff. Even your favorite Talmudist - Moses maimonide was there. Meanwhile in early 14th century jews were expelled from France and England, and settled in Germany and Poland, joining the SMALL community there, of jews from the Balkan. Those today are the Ashkenazim. In 1492, the Spanish jews were expelled from there, and their decendents were called the Sepharadians - in hebrew, it is identical to Spanish. Now, I think I heard about King Bulan, and the vast jewish Kingdom in the Caucass area, but they weren't accepted, or even contacted by the two jewish streams I just described. They are those who faded away, because apperantly, they didn't have the experience in keeping their faith, like the original and current jews.
And, again, you didn't answered my question - how did the Khazars accepted the religion that don't accept them? Don't refer me to jewish researchers - there was never shortage of jews attacking their people, that doesn't mean they're right. About king Bulan - nobody knows how jewish they really were, unlike the jews of that time, there aren't much evidence about they're religious life, so maybe and probably they did change the jewish faith in order to include themselves.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 12:29am
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"If you reject even the religion which lays claim to Palestine, why do you steal from them? "
Whenever the bible says "god", I see it as an Historiosophy - attempt to explain why the events happened as they did using religious concepts of miracles and god. However, the latter facts about judean kingdom are correct, and confirmed by other sources - this is the historical right of the jewish people according to my understanding. Israel in its earlier form existed, unlike Palestine, which was invented in the 1920's following the British mandate.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 12:33am
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"It's over, Yosi. Those tribes are extinct. If you can bring yourself to do it, read Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 in the Christian New Testament. Today's 'Jews' are imposters. "
If I don't believe my bible, why should I listen to yours? Anyway, there are evidences of the continuation of this tribe through the peroid in which they according to you weren't existed - between the new testimony, and the Khazar's convertion.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 12:36am
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G-D?
Elohim?
Adonai?
Yosi, your problem is that you (and many of your kind) cannot get it in your heads that just because a non-Jew disagrees with you, or takes issue with your philosophy, ideology, etc, it does not denote or connote a fervent desire to exterminate you. You and your kind are the true paranoiacs. Oy vey!
"We, in contrast to the Germans and others, don't burn books, especially not those related to our religion."
I would not advocate burning the Talmud simply because there can be so much learned about Judaism from it.
"But those books reflect that time, in which the Jews had to have reasons to not convert to Christianity."
Reaching for straws, you mean.
"Today it is obsolete, but their intention (real intention, not what you claim) remains the same."
Okay, Yosi, just what is the Sages' "real" intention. You still have yet to tell me.
"You still haven't brought a shred of evidence to Zionism's evil, I'm really looking forward to that."
Just look around you.
"I guess you can call it Zionist propaganda, but this is what they teach us in schools."
That's a shame, really.
"And no, they don't teach us the 'real' Judaism and force us to deny it in an international forum."
Oh, really? And why should I believe that YOU are telling me the truth?
"Don't you think there are many Israelis that would happily expose that alleged Jewish scum?"
Probably, but they are afraid of the stigma ("hillul ha-Shem") that will be applied to them if they do talk.
There is also the stigma of "moser," or "informer."
Yosi, if you don't believe your own Bible, and I don't think even the most "pious" Judaic can without the Rabbis' glosses, then why do you go so far to defend Judaism?
"Even your favorite Talmudist - Moses Maimonides was there."
He's not my favorite Talmudist. He's just one of the worst.
"...the Pharisees are the Jews of before 70 AD, right?"
You ought to know, Yosi. The answer is not that they were "the Jews" (meaning all) of before 70 AD. But they established the religion of Judaism. Look at the word Judaism itself. It's Judah-ism - racial tribalism raised to the level of a religion.
It appears that Cheesecake has consumed much of the standard disinformation. And as a dog is wont to do, he (or she) returns again and again to his (or her) own vomit.
"You idiot, not all Jews murdered were in the gas chambers..."
Show me proof of homicidal gas chambers, please.
"...about 3 million were in death camps..."
Death camps? Why, then, were individual SS men tried and convicted in German courts for vernichtung, MURDER of camp inmates?
"...the rest were murdered by eizengruppen..."
The word is einsatzgruppen, idiot.
"...German soldiers that marched behind the tanks and were a special squad whose job it was to find and kill Jews..."
Not Jews, partisans. I guess it was just a coincidence that most partisans were Jews.
"3 million murdered in camps, another 3 million were either SHOT by the eizengruppen..."
The einsatzgruppen killed a lot of partisans I would presume. I will make no excuse for German efficiency.
"...buried alive..."
Where are the mass graves? Why haven't the bodies been exhumed for the entire world to see and believe once and for all in the Holocaust(TM) story?
"...burnt alive(with the help of Polish 'Christians' or bashed/stabbed."
You have a fantastic imagination. Why not apply for a job as a screenwriter? Spielberg could use you.
"More died of starvation in ghettos like in Warsaw."
Starvation caused in large part by Allied bombing of German supply lines. Many Germans died of the same malady. The military was fed first and best.
"...and 6 million is the MEAN number, the estimate was between 4-8 million murdered, it easily could have been 7 million dead as 3 million dead, but I know anti-Semites always say fewer died because it makes them feel better."
It could also have been in the tens of thousands. If feeling better is the sole aim of revisionism, then why not just say that no one died in WWII?
Apparently, the Jewish Bolsheviks killed no one at all in Russia, and that is why Jews have such high self esteem today.
"And, again, you didn't answer my question - How did the Khazars accept the religion that does not accept them? Don't refer me to Jewish researchers. There was never a shortage of Jews attacking their own people. That doesn't mean they're right."
It doesn't mean they're wrong either. I'll answer your question with a question of my own: How, then, did Yiddish become so predominant among the "Jewish" people?
"Israel in its earlier form existed, unlike Palestine, which was invented in the 1920's following the British mandate."
Khazaria existed too. Why not take it back from the people of the Caucasus? Why not carve a homeland out of North Africa wherefrom your own people derive?
Why not cut the charade and just be honest in admitting who you really are?
"If I don't believe my Bible, why should I listen to yours?"
Good point. I guess you are the skeptic's skeptic, Yosi. So why don't you afford me that honorable distinction?
"Anyway, there are evidences of the continuation of this tribe through the period in which they, according to you, did not exist - between the New Testament and the Khazars' conversion."
Yes, and they say the Loch Ness Monster is a relic of the Jurassic period. But have they captured it? No.
Ripyerheartoutndance, it's Yahweh - "I am who am."
Violater, the best revisionist historian I have found to say anything whatsoever about the Karaites is Michael A. Hoffman II. He actually has private contacts from within that community.
Zyklon-B was a fumigant insecticide that was used to kill lice and prevent the spread of the typhus epidemic in the camps. Clothing and bedding were regularly treated with this cyanic substance in only very small chambers. Did you know that even Dr. Josef Mengele himself contracted typhus but was treated and survived? Few talk about it, so I guess that makes it a lie.
The so-called "gas chambers" were actually cold cellars for the storage of typhus victims. Besides, it makes very little sense to build crematoria adjacent to a gas chamber, don't you think?
"We may take both Buchenwald and Dachau as having at least six chambers each..."
Why does the Dachau camp museum today only have one room above which there is a sign in German that reads "Gas Chamber - Never Used?"
"Most of the improved chambers could cremate between 4 and 5 bodies every 25 minutes."
Oh, so they cremated bodies right inside the gas chambers? That sounds kind of dangerous, no?
"Overloading of the furnaces caused the camp authorities to improvise and burn corpses outdoors in pits."
Bodies were cremated to prevent the spread of typhus from the dead ... period.
"Unimpeded operation of either all of the chambers or all of the pits had the capacity to yield 5 thousand corpses each daily."
In two years' time (1943-45) that would still only amount to 3,650,000.
"Bodies were sorted into combustability catagories as the result of earlier experiments by the SS staff to reduce fuel consumption."
Do undertakers do the same today? I was not aware that different people burn differently.
"By the end of the war, the shortage of fuel resulted in piles of bodies in the camps, waiting to be buried."
No, disease and starvation resulted in the piles of bodies. And just how does one detect Jewishness in a dead body in a photograph?
"That is their way of hiding their real intentions, giving money, while secretly preparing the second final solution."
There can only be one final solution. That's why it's called "final." Your paranoid thesis is flawed to the core. Besides, the US supplied Hussein with WMDs in the 1980s as well. Are you going to blame the descendants of Germans in the US now, Yosi?
"Now, of course that I think it's BS..."
Yes, and so is Barbra Streisand.
"...but the facts about the deal and gasses are correct."
So, what?
"I'm just wondering how can you defend the Germans."
All Germans are apparently responsible for what a few do. It's just a wonder I don't blame all "Jews" for killing Christ!
"I just want to see if you do a better job than me trying to prove that Zionism doesn't follow the Talmud."
It doesn't in practice, Yosi. But it's actions, perhaps unwittingly, but I doubt it, RESONATE from the attitude of the Rabbis in Talmud. Does that explain my position for you?
"I just want to see if you do a better job than me trying to prove that Zionism doesn't follow the Talmud."
It doesn't IN PRACTICE, Yosi. But its actions, perhaps unwittingly, although I doubt it, RESONATE and derive sustenance/impetus from the attitude of the Rabbis in Talmud.
Does that explain my position for you?
"Okay, Yosi, just what is the Sages' 'real' intention. You still have yet to tell me. "
Sages'? I think I have already explained the sages' intentions - to prevent jews from losing their faith by adopting the goyim's beliefs. One of the major problems, is when you marry one of the goyim, and your wife will educate your children - so they'll not be raised as jews and thus the faith will be lost.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 5:49am
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"Just look around you."
Stop avoiding - give evidence of Zionism's cruelty, that isn't accepted by modern and not hypocratical world.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 5:51am
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"That's a shame, really."
If that's what they teach us, maybe it's not important what the real books says - cause after all we are those who will act, not those who wrote the Talmud
"Oh, really? And why should I believe that YOU are telling me the truth? "
Do you really think that the ex-Israelis who criticize Israel's actions everyday abroad won't be happy to share it? Out of the roughly 5 millions children educated in Israel - why nobody says such things?
"Probably, but they are afraid of the stigma ('hillul ha-Shem') that will be applied to them if they do talk. "
You'll be amazed but there are many atheist Israelis who just want to harm their fellow jews, and don't really afraid of Hillul Hashem, or by being outcasted from the community.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 5:56am
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" then why do you go so far to defend Judaism?"
You use judaism to attack Israel and the jews, this is my nationality, and I do support my country and brothers.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 5:59am
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"You ought to know, Yosi. The answer is not that they were "the Jews" (meaning all) of before 70 AD. But they established the religion of Judaism. Look at the word Judaism itself. It's Judah-ism - racial tribalism raised to the level of a religion. "
What, so who were the pharisees, and where did the people of king David disappeared?
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 6:03am
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"It doesn't mean they're wrong either. I'll answer your question with a question of my own: How, then, did Yiddish become so predominant among the 'Jewish' people? "
Well, that was the 3rd or 4th attempt to get a real answer, so I'll assume that you have no real answer other then to believe other "jews" as you refer to them. So untill you'll provide an answer, consider the jews as the direct continuation of the phariseesjews from 70A.D. and even 3300 years ago, because you haven't broken the link between those two yet. Now, to your answer, the jews always adopted local languages as they're everyday language leaving hebrew as the holy language - meant for prays only. That was the case wit the Aramit, which diminated the ancient east, and was adopted as everyday language for jews in about 900 B.C. The sepharadians adopted arabic, and Spanish - and turned it to Ladino, just like the Ashkenazim who turned German to Yidish - because this is where they lived. You can ask how come that jews adopted english in the U.S. but nevertheless the old language was preserved - and is the oldest surviving language spoken today. It's revival was part of the normalizatin of the jewish nationality.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 6:14am
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"Khazaria existed too. Why not take it back from the people of the Caucasus? Why not carve a homeland out of North Africa wherefrom your own people derive? "
There were zionists who suggested to colonize other lands and create there the jewish state - like Uganda or Argentina, but most of the jews never compromised on their real homeland - Israel. Don't you think they would prefer to settle in Khazaria if it was their homeland? After all Israel was just desert and swamps when the other plans were abandoned for Israel.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 6:18am
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"Why not cut the charade and just be honest in admitting who you really are? "
Although, I must admit that you've done pretty good job in the Talmud's issues, you haven't done any impact on the Khazars' issue. The questions you don't answer damage your theory :-(
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 6:21am
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"Yes, and they say the Loch Ness Monster is a relic of the Jurassic period. But have they captured it? No. "
I think you are chasing the Loch Ness monster not me, anyway I'll look for those letters.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 6:39am
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Ravioli is right!
In his book "The Holocaust Industry," Professor Norman Finkelstein (whose parents were interned at Auschwitz during World War II) points out that the number of Holocaust(TM) Survivors would be around 40,000 if the Germans had murdered six million "Jews," including all those too young to work. However, about a million were still alive sixty years later, according to the report of the Israeli government. Explain that.
"Stop avoiding - give evidence of Zionism's cruelty, that isn't accepted by modern and not hypocratical world."
What does Hippocrates have to do with hypocracy? (That's a joke, Yosi.)
I'm sorry, Yosi. Israelis don't commit war crimes, do they? Israelis are just beyond reproach.
"You use Judaism to attack Israel and the Jews. This is my nationality, and I do support my country and brothers."
You are an atheist, and your nationality is Arab and Berber. You are not a Hebrew.
"There can only be one final solution. That's why it's called "final." Your paranoid thesis is flawed to the core. Besides, the US supplied Hussein with WMDs in the 1980s as well. Are you going to blame the descendants of Germans in the US now, Yosi? "
I have waited for this, and not surprisingly, you can't effectively contradict my theory. Look at you, playing with words - 'final' must be the only and so on. And then just saying that my theory is flawed from its core - you know, just because people say bad things about the germans, doesn't mean they lie. You just panicked when I have exposed your secrets. Well, unfortunately, you don't come clean with your theory, saying from the beginning that this is BS. I guess anyone can think of such conspiracies relating to foreigners and minorities.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 6:48am
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"Explain that. "
Go to Whanse documents, written by the nazis themselves - 11 million jews in europe alone.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 6:50am
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"Well, that was the 3rd or 4th attempt to get a real answer, so I'll assume that you have no real answer other then to believe other 'Jews' as you refer to them."
You've got a ready answer for everything, don't you, Yosi? But it's just that same old broken record: anti-Semitism.
The Wannsee Conference, and its supposed importance, was debunked by none other than Raul Hilberg himself. He called it a meeting, not a conference, and said that it had nothing to do with the systematic destruction of Jewry.
"I'm sorry, Yosi. Israelis don't commit war crimes, do they? Israelis are just beyond reproach. "
Can you honestly say, that even the human and enlightened Europeans never did a single war crime? And yet you blame only the jews and tying it to their religion, so let me tell you this - Europeans, which are of course Christians, commited so many war crimes, that I can just as easily blame them and christianity's missionary ideology for being evil.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 6:54am
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"You've got a ready answer for everything, don't you, Yosi? But it's just that same old broken record: anti-Semitism. "
Now when we are talking directly - can you repeat that answer? Something of your own - not reference or other question - I'm waiting...
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 6:55am
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"To prevent Jews from losing their faith by adopting the goyim's beliefs."
I shouldn't be asking this of an "atheist," but what is "the faith?" What do Jews believe in? I know you'll say, "God," but that's not saying a whole lot. Tell me who "God" is for Jews. What is His Name?
"And yet you blame only the jews and tying it to their religion..."
No, no, no, Yosi! I want to know why they are deemed exempt from the accusation or even the inference. Come on, now!
can you comment on my last message - I won't comment on yours, so don't worry, take your time, but answer, because this one is important.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:01am
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"You just panicked when I have exposed your secrets."
What secrets? I don't have any secrets. If I did I wouldn't be here. Words mean things, Yosi. You are the one playing with words.
Why don't you repeat the question?
Stop Playing. Why did the Khazars accepted a religion which don't accept them, without even trying to change it - to make their convertion legitimate?
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:05am
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You know, maybe I'm tired of German-bashing. It's a shame I don't have a handy term, like "anti-Semitism," and the stigma that goes with it, to describe the way I feel as a descendant of Germans. I never killed anyone.
I never blamed you, or any other Germans, based on his origin or legacy, now can you answer the question?
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:09am
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I've got your answer, Yosi. The Judeans of Jesus' time had already interbred with Edomites. Herod was an Edomite. The Rabbis' know this, and they knew that the religion as stated plainly in the Bible is unworkable toward their goals. That is why they invented the Mishnah and Talmud as a filter for reinterpreting the Bible. By the time of the Khazars, non-Jews had already been accepted. They were the Edomites.
Earth to Yosi...
So now they were the edomites. Well, that collapses your racial and self-worshiping theories I guess. Now, how come the edomites were accepted, if judaism rejects them - why did the original edomites converted to such evil religion by your standarts?
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:15am
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Come in, Yosi. Do you copy?
You cling to this idea that Judaism is a Biblical religion. It's not! That's where your theory falls down.
Another issue - the edomites are those from edom - right? Edom in the bible is the trans-jordan territories, so the khazars does have roots in that region - but you don't stop there - you even admit that they were included in herodes kingdom - which was in Zion, Therefore you base the Khazars claim to Israel. That's not a very good answer.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:17am
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The problem with Judaism is that the Rabbis believe they can create a race out of any mixture and yet still claim racial purity. It's schizophrenia on parade! It's laughable, but that's the way it is.
How can you claim that Judaism is a Biblical religion when the Bible condemns the Edomites?
Oh really? What about Solomon the king who had 1000 foreign wives - didn't the bible criticized it just a bit? The basics were set in the bible
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:20am
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The Rabbis concern themselves mainly with the first five books, and then hardly at that.
We are working on your story, you are the one who should explain that, according to me - the edomited never became part of the jewish people, as a whole nation for sure.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:23am
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Having 1000 wives does not necessarily mean having 1000 "bastard" children. But then again, didn't Ezra force Judean returnees to cast off their foreign wives and their children by these wives?
"The Rabbis concern themselves mainly with the first five books, and then hardly at that. "
Those kind of commands - the Hitbadlut are already there - Do you want me to quote?
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:24am
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The Edomites never became part of the nation? Ha! The Judeans did so much as to make an Edomite (Herod) their king! You jest, surely.
I've got to go, Yosi. But this has been fun. We'll continue tomorrow. Ciao!
" But then again, didn't Ezra force Judean returnees to cast off their foreign wives and their children by these wives? "
Yes Ezra did, and it was in 457 B.C. - way before the edomites supposobly joined - so you see that even back then, the jewish people rejected foreigners from entering the jewish nation. And so did the faith - as mentioned by Ezra and even in the bible. Ezra represented the attitude of Hitbadlut - like the babylonian stream which took over by the way.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:27am
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Bye, take care
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:28am
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"The Edomites never became part of the nation? Ha! The Judeans did so much as to make an Edomite (Herod) their king! You jest, surely"
Never as a nation, not as individuals, but anyway king Herod was the Roman sponsored king, he had nothing to do with independent jewish self-rule - the last ones were the Hashmonaim - 2nd and even 1st century B.C. if I'm not mistaken. Anyway Herod controlled the jewish authonomyprovince, and his subjects - the jews didn't really accepted him because of questions about his jewish nationality.
by yosi on Wed Feb 11, 04 7:32am
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The_Revisionist:
"We may take both Buchenwald and Dachau as having at least six chambers each"... not GAS chambers, CREMATORIUM chambers (also known as muffles).
"Most of the improved chambers could cremate between 4 and 5 bodies every 25 minutes."... once again, speaking about the muffles.
"Bodies were cremated to prevent the spread of typhus from the dead ... period." -Epidemics of typhus and spotted fever were permitted to run rampant as a means of eliminating prisoners. So it's true, thousands of people also died of typhus, dysentery, starvation... but, at Auschwitz alone, 1.5 million were killed by the gas chambers.
"Unimpeded operation of either all of the chambers or all of the pits had the capacity to yield 5 thousand corpses EACH daily." -5 thousand from the crematorium, 5 thousand from the pits... in only two years time you have 7,300,000. (and that's just calculating two years, many crematoriums were up and running well before 1943)
"Bodies were sorted into combustability catagories as the result of earlier experiments by the SS staff to reduce fuel consumption." -The findings of the experiments concluded; the most economical and fuel-saving procedure would be to burn the bodies of a well-nourished man and an emaciated woman, or vice versa, together with that of a child, because, as the experiments had established, in this combination, once they had caught fire, the dead would continue to burn without any further coke being required... Today cremators are built to only allow one adult sized coffin to be cremated at a time... the "efficiency" with which they cremate is of no consequence to them because they are only trying to cremate one body at a time, unlike the Nazis.
"Disease and starvation resulted in the piles of bodies" ... as well as the deaths from the gas chambers: Auschwitz- 1.5 million Birkenau- 200,000 Majdanek- 1.3 million Treblinka- 700,000 (just to name a few).
It wasn't only the 6,017,760 Jews, a total of eleven million human lives were lost during the Holocaust. Five million of these were non-Jewish. Three million of those five were Polish Christians and Catholics. The others consisted of communists, socialists, trade unionists, homosexuals, Gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses, and other "undesirables."
thank you cheesecake!
by LCD on Thu Feb 12, 04 12:25am
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I guess the word "holocaust" could be trademarked if it was some type of breakfast cereal.
We aren't in the 1930's, naziboi, antisemite and nazi propeganda can be freely contradicted. Anyway, on this ballot I won but if you look closer, the revisionist had succeded more than anyone else here with his anti - jewish propeganda. He hasn't been around since that Februar 11 in this ballot, and his place was taken by pathetic nazis like you. Read my comments throughout this site, maybe it'll change your opinion too.
by yosi on Sun Feb 22, 04 11:52am
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Goddammit--IT NEVER HAPPENED!
you FUCKIN JEWS!
IT NEVER HAPPENED BUT IT NEEDS TO!
i swear to god if I ever get the chance to build a new concentration camp--HITLER WAS A GENIUS!
FUCK YOU PATHETIC GOOD FOR SHIT JEWS
Oops! Forgot to log in. Gee, Yosi. I thought I was a Nazi in your view.
"Do you really think Germany would ever release a film of a gas chamber in use, you idiot?"
Do you really think such a film exists, anonymous idiot? How is it that the Germans have managed to hide such a film? Were the Allies too damned stupid to find it even in the bombed-out shithole they made of Germany?
Seon wrote: "You anti-sematic (sic) evil bastard. The holocaust happened. I'm sick of all you evil freaks trying to deny. I hope you all burn in hell with Hitler."
Yes, I am anti-semantic, if that's what you are trying to say. As to denial, one does not DENY history. One debates it. Therefore, the Holocaust(TM) is not history. It is a religion. And you, apparently, are a believer. So what right do you have to push your religion on me?
To: The_Revisionist
or I should simply call you Nazi
First I'm a Jew (you hatred emotions probably rising now and you blood going up to your twisted stupid brain)
And I'm also believe in God and try follow the laws God give Moses. Now according to Christianity and
Muslim no one argue with the fact that God give us the Torah and also give us Israel 3500 years ago.
You claim is that he "changed his mind". Now let me explain you few things about Judaism.
There are many laws = mitzvot in the torah that does not give any explanations how to fulfill them.
However Moshe got on the same time all the laws which we call Torah she be al pe. This was not
written anywhere it was pass by teaching and memorizing it. For example the shabbat include many
laws but it only say in the Torah to keep it. Our father eventually decided its time to put everything
on papers because people start to forget. This is how the Mishna was created.
Keep in mind it was ALL give to Moses on the Sinai mountain. Our books mostly don't even deal with other nations just have deep discussion
of how to guard the Torah to fulfill our obligation to God. In regard to J he was killed in a way like
other 250000 Jews who were murder by the Roman empire in that time. The cross was normal method of
killing for the Romans. About the Brit mila that every Jew
is keeping even if he don't believe in the Torah, since Christianity believe in the Torah or the "old"...
they also believe God told us to fulfill it. and actually the Muslim also do it at the age of 13.
Also %30+ of US (I may be worng about the % but its still big) and today Doctors offer you to
do it to every baby because its healthy (not saying its the reason we do it > we do it because its
our obligation) Like many other laws God give us that we actually very good for all humans. For example
the Canadian government clearly stated that the kosher meat is protected from mad cow. I guess that
maybe your problem that you eat a cow who caused you to become crazy unless you were born like that...
Now you claim we are not the real Jews...? So to put it clear a Jew is some one that his mother was Jewish
or he decided to convert to become a Jew and after passing the test that he is doing it for the love of
our God and truly want to follow the Torah he become a Jew! Now since all your attempt to destroy us and
kill every Jew never worked out. Mostly because God made sure we spread to many countries like my
family who happen to be from Morocco... And because the people like you who hate us. These 2 facts
made sure we won't disappear from the Map! Just to remind you today is Purim a Jewish Holiday about Mordachi
Ester and Haman ha rasha a Nazi like you that wanted to kill every Jew (women, babies men) but God made the
opposite to happen! He and all his family were killed and we became stronger. Through out history its
always repeat it when ever we are challenge with Amalek (any nation that declair its main goal to destroy us)
we manage to overcome it with God help and our enemies fall. You should be blind not to see the miracles Israel
went through by fighting 5 countries without an army and experience! So anyway... sorry to tell you we
are going to stay here FOREVER! that is a promise by God and all the promises were kept. The best
example is that God promise we will be back in our home land (against your religion believe that we should be without
our own country) and NO ONE ever manage to build Israel all this time. Regarding the Palestinian = Mix of arabs who admire
death over life and think its their main purpose in life. And all these Arabs countries that claim that they care about them
its the biggest lie. How come they can't accept them in Lebanon, Syria ext... Compare to Israel who accepted all the Jews
that got kick out from the Arabs countries or you can call them Jewish refugees. (maybe we should claim to go back to Iraq) Keep in mind that Israel is 1% of the Mideast.
So there is a lot of space they can use to Build their "Palestinian" state. However we do welcome them to stay
if they learn to control their desires to blow up and kill Jews!( its has NOTHING to do with their situation.
The proof is every week there are suicide bombers in Iraq, Pakistan, Chechnya... )
As we accepted the Israeli Arabs (20% of Israel population) who live in peace with us and
enjoy all the benefits we have to offer. Other countries
would destroy these terrorist a long time ago! You can learn how Husein Jordan last king treat the Arafat gang when he decided
he don't want them to live there. He fired them up! killing 500 in one month (black September check history) and never again
had to face these murderers.
So just last point to understand their suffer:
who ever bless us will be bless and who ever curse us will be curse!"
Damn. Forgot to log in again.
So maybe you should try to log in to a new prospective toward Jews.
When you view our history and books clear your mind from negative views you grow up with.
Its like a Judge that get a case about some one that he hate. He can not have a clear view on the case becuase there are emotions involve in it.
Some Rabbis used to put something on their eyes not to see the people they Judge so only the true can be heard.
You can't be "capable of seeing past it" becuase its the relity.
You checks our books you see things happen again and again exactly how our books say. Even the conflit with the arabs is written when they were small tribes.
"in the end of the days Ismael will cause big wars in the world"... it also say that when we go back to our homeland we will need to face them. Even the Holocaust is written in our books. Some jews may argue with me but we blame it on ourself becuase we tried to become like the nations.
Jews in Germany start to call to Berlin Jerusalem. There was the hightest % of inermarrige in our history. Its like body that need sergury and must suffer to fix it.
But when ever we face panishment we also face redemption. Exactly like galut mitzraim (Egypt) we suffer and we sent to freedom. We suffer from the nations but God sent us back to our home land. But still the one who did it to us = the Nazi did it becuase for other reason. Simply hate and love of killing. They enjoy it and they will pay for it in the next world...
Magniv wrote: "But still the one who did it to us, the Nazi, did it for another reason. Simply, hate and love of killing. They enjoy it and they will pay for it in the next world..."
I am not a Nazi, but I am of German descent, and I take extreme umbrage with your comment, because such comments are so often directed at Germans in general (cf. Daniel Jonah Goldhagen). Yet, I live in the United States. Do you include in your definition of German hatred for Jews and the supposed love of killing them all those who are of German descent but living elsewhere in the world? I'm afraid that this would make you a racist, Magniv. Otherwise, it is a theory you simply cannot explain to the rational mind.
The Nazis were basically Germans who had had enough of the integration of Jews and their culture with that of the German, and they decided to do something about it. They were tired of communism. They were tired of degeneracy. They were tired of Jewish "law." Whether or not it involved the killing of six million Jews is surely a matter for debate. But just as Israelis today do not want Palestinians impinging upon Jewish culture, if the assassin Ariel Sharon is any example, it is clearly for reasons of hate and the love of killing that he does what HE does.
"When you view our history and books clear your mind from negative views you grew up with."
You're wrong. I did not grow up with these views. I grew up thinking you and your kind were the "Chosen." It is only as an adult when I started to read these rabbinic scribblings that I these views began to develop. They further develop every time I open a book of your "history." They are right there on the page. So, what you are asking of me is the impossible. I only blame you for morally supporting this filth.
Why is it that you and your "tribe" are always the ones who are being "done to," and never doing to someone else? Answer: class-conscious and even racial self-worship. Prescription: Get over yourselves!
"I am not a Nazi, but I am of German descent, and I take extreme umbrage with your comment, because such comments are so often directed at Germans in general"
First don't try to words into my mouth.
I did not say I hate all German people,
especialy of this generation.
I view each individual as one person with positive and negative.
Nazi in my prospective was a culture that set goals to destroy my nation or tribe as you call it. But also murdered many sick people or hadicup just becuase they believe they were "usless". Now when a person is able to put a gun on woman with her babies and toward civilian that have no proctection and did not do anything to him and kill them with a smile on his face he will need to face Justic. If he manage to skip it in this world I believe he will face it in the next...
"The Nazis were basically Germans who had had enough of the integration of Jews and their culture with that of the German"
So if it is true why did they decided to "clean" the intire world from jews? If its only about the German so they could just do what many countries did in the past to send them out of German!
Also its like saying I can not compete with a another company so maybe I should blow up their offices so I can win. Is this make sense?
How did the jews affected the German colture exactly? by inventing too many things in Sience, business ext...
communism? you tell me how a small family with babies has anything to do with this BS that they need to be kill for it. communism as you claim has invented by group of ppl that maybe there was a jew 2 involve in it for their own interest. Do you know how much the jews suffer from communism?
In russia it was Iligle to study torah and if you did they sent you sebir! So you want to tell me an entire nation need to be killed for this reason that has NOTHING to do with their culture and even the opposite.
You claim has no base and there is NO way in the world you can Justicfy their action to murder so many people! I won't even bather arguing with you about # becuase its about the ideology.
"The Nazis were basically Germans who had had enough of the integration of Jews and their culture with that of the German"
I don't accept your reason simply because:
Jews were murder in history when they:
- Poor
- Rich
- Trying to infulence
- Trying to be in their small conner
-Looking different
-Trying to look the same
-Changing their religion
-Die protecting it
The point is there was no reason other then the fact they have a title = jews
Find me one country and one generation it did not happen!
Not including Asia, they treat us good.
"Nazi, in my perspective, was a culture that set goals to destroy my nation, or 'tribe' as you call it."
Prove this without the usual citations of Nazi rhetoric, Magniv. Give me physical proof, not just some wildly overblown statistics.
"...don't try to words into my mouth. I did not say I hate all German people, especially of this generation. I view each individual as one person with positive and negative."
It SOUNDS good, Magniv. But I would appreciate your (and your fellow Jew) putting ideas in my head. Just because I see the Nazis side of the story does nor make me a Nazi.
"...don't try to words into my mouth. I did not say I hate all German people, especially of this generation. I view each individual as one person with positive and negative."
It SOUNDS good, Magniv. But I would appreciate your (and your fellow Jew) putting ideas in my head. Just because I see the Nazis side of the story does not make me a Nazi.
I meant to say NOT putting ideas in my head. Why do I keep getting a message that I using too many big words? It's ridiculous. I am trying to make this as simple as I can so that all of those reading will understand.
"But (the Nazis) also murdered many sick people or handicapped just because they believed they were "useless."
You obviously do not understand the Nazis' application of Darwinism. But just saying I understand it does not mean I endorse it.
"Now when a person is able to put a gun on a woman with her babies and toward civilians that have no proctection and did not do anything to him and kill them with a smile on his face, he will need to face justice."
I suppose this does not apply to IDF soldiers against Palestinians, hmm?
"So, if it is true why did they decide to 'cleanse' the entire world of Jews? If it's only about the German they could have just done what many countries did in the past: Send them out of Germany!"
They did that. But some refused to leave. Many countries would not take these Jews. If Jews are so wonderful why wouldn't Roosevelt take them all?
"How did the Jews affect the German culture exactly? By inventing too many things in science, business, etc."
The way they all cultures of substance (and even some devoid of substance). They gain control at the top.
AFFECT all cultures. This "big words" thing is pissing me off.
"Communism? You tell me how a small family with babies has anything to do with this BS that they need to be killed for it."
I never said they did. Why don't you tell me how a small Palestinian family with babies has anything to do with "terrorism" and why their house should be indiscriminately bulldozed for it.
Communism, as you claim, was invented by a group of people that maybe had a Jew or two involved in it for their own interest."
There were far more than two. There were hundreds in the commissariat alone.
"Do you know how much the Jews suffered from Communism?"
That takes nothing away from the fact that Jews invented and administered it.
"In Russia it was illegal to study Torah and if you did they sent you Siberia! So you want to tell me an entire nation needs to be killed for this reason that has NOTHING to do with their culture and even the opposite?"
Communism was derived from the Torah (i.e. Talmud). Marx was the scion of rabbis on both sides of his family. His lessons were well-ingrained, and his denunciations of Judaism were merely hollow rhetoric. Marxism was actually intended to update and eventually supplant Judaism. The "proletariat vs. bourgeois" debate was a substitute for "Jew vs. Gentile."
"Your claim has no basis and there is NO way in the world you can justify their action to murder so many people!"
The Communists or the Nazis? I simply doubt your genocidal claims. I have the right to doubt.
"I won't even bother arguing with you about it because it's about the ideology."
You won't even honestly argue the ideology of Judaism with me, so why should I be surprised?
Magniv wrote: "I don't accept your reason simply because Jews were murdered in history when they were poor, rich..."
There were always far more rich than poor Jews.
"...trying to influence, trying to be in their small corner..."
Maybe your "influence" is not wanted. Consider the possibility.
"...looking different, trying to look the same..."
Obsessed with appearances, are we?
"...changing their religion, dying to protect it..."
Get rid of it.
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