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Uhh. . . how about the people who did it? Too simplisme?
Technically, yeah I'd go with Al Qaeda. Apparently they'd kidnapped him before Abu Ghraib broke in the news, but at the same time there's no telling whether or not they'd have killed him had Abu Ghraib not happened. I guess if Bush didn't invade Iraq, he wouldn't have needed to go over there and probably would still be alive today.
Well, I saw the full video of Nick Berg's execution, and I must say that his captors are angry beyond compare. You also notice that the guy was jewish, which brings into the picuter the Israeli-arab issue. The arabs for the most part are not insane, they are just using the only methods available to them to fight off Israeli and US incursion into their holy land. If arab states had abrams tanks and f-16's, they would use these instead of resorting to terror. Terror is just more ugly but not less humane than the bombs Israel drops on palestinians... This is tribal warfare pure and simple.
Sorry, but executing a bound prisoner is not simply another way to fight a war. That man was of absolutely no threat to them, what they did was murder plain and simple, and needlessly cruel at that.
On a side note: if it's ok for them to hold all jews responsible for the troubles in israel, is it ok for us to hold all muslims responsible for 911?
Himself !!
What the fuck did the man expect?? Westerners aren't exactly flavour of the month in Iraq at the moment, and since he was just a freelancer looking for work he didn't need to be there in the first place.
It was their reaction to the heinous evil of a LOT of misguided people. NOT the right reaction, of course, but an expected one.
Excellent points Guest_597cc and couchgnome, we can not expect people to behavior in the same manner as we think we would if we believed that another country was constantly victimizing Americans. Those whom beheaded Mr. Berg did so for several reasons that maybe you and I do not quite understand. This hatred between the both the Muslims and Israel has nothing whatsoever to do with us, until Bush thrust innocent Americans between the two combatants. Mr. Berg was attempting to make a living in a hostile environment in which I am certain he knew the risk involved. No, he did not deserve to die (especially in the manner in which his life was taken)and those detainees did not deserve to be treated in the manner in which they were. With all that said, where do we all go from here? Bush will continue to have American Troops forge ahead and continue to DIE on a LIE(WMD) and that in itself is as obscene as the video tape of Mr. Berg being beheaded. Excellent dialogue all ~ Arrivederci!
Again, Islam proves that it is totally incapable of showing or proving that it is a religion of peace. Instead, Islamic terrorists feel they have a responsibility to prove to the world that they can't be out done when it comes committing vile atrocities with horrific fear and torture. As they did with Journalist Daniel Pearl, they had no problem cutting of the head of another kidnapped American hostage.
The Quran is their playbook and rule book for terror.
Quran 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
Quran 5:33 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
Quran 9:123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.
47:4 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.
I guess when Daniel Pearl was beheaded over a year before we committed the "terrible war crimes" of having a bunch of filthy muslims undress, they must have predicted these future "horrible" acts and acted in advance! PIGLAM is to blame, pure and simplle.
This comment is to Jinn, I will not engage in a dialogue with you and your hatred for a group of people that all is not bad. Your constant attack against a people's religion is insulting because what you claim is so misrepresented. For your information, many Priest of the Catholic Church blessed the slave ships coming and going and I don't hear your outrage for that disgusting acts. However, your choice, your decision and it is most certainly your right to do so. However, know this if you know nothing else, and I would like to use the word "NOTHING" again if I may, to blame the entire race of people and their beliefs for a few is just not rational thinking just like the radical Muslims and Christians (who some of their members bomb abortion clinics killing other to preserve the life of the unborn, yeah, right)and years past, so called Christians killed Black people and justified that those acts were ordained by GOD, just as some of the Muslims claim that their acts are justified through ALLAH ~ Arrivederci!
Your ballot proves that you are the type that likes to blame someone else for your actions. I suppose if somebody killed your spouse with a butcher knife, you would rather go after the knife manufacturer than the bastard that sliced through your spouses neck til he screamed his last breath? And I contest that your ballot should even be catagorized as "serious"!
Yeah, because there could be the chance that the killer might be of the same color. Better to go after the kife manufacturer...because they're "the man"! That is what this ballot is all about anyway!
Know and Robert: The "man?" what are you referring to Robby? There is nothing that smells worse than American HYPOCRISPY, the stench is over whelming. You two are the types that would totally dismissed what part those American soldiers who abused those Iraqi detainees played in Mr. Nick Berg's death. However, that is your right to do so, if it was NOT for Bush sending Americans to Iraq on a LIE (WMD-Weapons of Mass Distraction), Mr. Berg and all those American soldiers would not have been lead off like lambs to slaughter. Some of us here knows what your comment was all about Robby, just like any other coward, you imply that my ballot has to do with what exactly? huh? And as for your user motto, know it all? The same applies for me ~ Arrivederci!
Yeah and if those damn Spaniards just would have stayed home and never ventured to new lands, they would have never taken people from Africa for slaves. You can go round and round with all this stuff! I can't say for Mr Robby, but I am appalled at the islamic jihad execution of Mr. Byrd, and I am very disturbed by those ignorant soldiers. But UNLIKE you ms Baby Cakes, I do not blame the American Government, nor do I blame all Muslims for these two events. Here's a novel idea... how about blaming the soldiers, and the islamic jihad execution killers themselves? Or is that too simple? Must their be some (Let's keep someone down) theory behind everything?
You know what, know nothing...You haven't a clue, so, just as you are intellectually, I am done...Arrivederci!
A "human being" who could saw a screaming mans head off is not one to "care" about anything living... let alone someone being abused while a prisoner of war. Only a purely evil psychotic could commit such an atrocity. Anyone who honestly believes that those "men" brutally killed Nick Berg as a retaliation for Iraqi prisoner abuse needs to think again. Those murderers were just looking for an excuse and claim to fame... they couldn't care less about anothers suffering. And I wish the news and everyone else would refer to these two sick, seperate stories each on their own.
Now, let's track these murderers down, (try to)humanely kill them and let them receive what justice there is on the other side.
the ones who did the crime need to do the time
BBC, you claim that my opinion of Islam is wrong, yet you jumped to conclusions yourself about me. What is that called? Have you ever read the Quran? I bet not.
Don't worry yourself about what I say. Hardly anyone can write anything more damaging to Islam than the Quran itself. All you need to see that Islam is not a religion from God but a dangerous cult that promotes hate and violence, is read the Quran. I do not hate all Muslims as you imply. It is the religion of Islam and its teachings that I despise. And believe me, I'm justified. Fortunately, the Muslims you and I know as peaceful do not have a clue about what the Quran is really teaching. Most are illiterate or can't read Arabic, which is what the Quran text is printed in. Most Muslims in the US or the UK learn to recite Quran in Arabic from their Imams. Most have no clue what they are really saying. But guess what? Arabic-Muslims can read the Arabic Quran writings fleuntly. Surprise! Is it any wonder that Arab-Muslims are the most violent of them all? Is it any wonder that most of the MILLIONS of Islamic terrorists are Arabic?
I know the The majority of the Muslims are good people who are innocently led to believe that Islam is a religion of God. Now, these people are seeing the truth for the first time and are leaving Islam in big numbers. Did you know that? Those who still remain Muslims after reading these verses, have no humanity or conscience. They must be filled with shame and shunned. They are the terrorists or their supporters and the enemies of mankind. They are in minority but still they number millions. Once the decent Muslims leave Islam, the terrorists will lose their moral base of support. This is the only way to combat the Islamic terrorism.
And show me the written verses in the Bible that instruct Christians to kill non-Muslims and enslave their enemies. There are none! I don't care about Christianity or any other religion for that matter. My life is in no danger from Jews or Christians. Those acts you speak of BBC as being done by Christians were definitely bad things done by people of the Christian faith. But they acts committed in spite of what the Bible teaches, they were NOT done because of Bible teachings.
BBC, I know you don't like me, but I care not. But let me say this. You have no clue about Islam. You shouldn't get involved in making comments about a subject you know NOTHING about. And by the way, I don't think much of the Christian doctrine either, but at least I know the Bible doesn't preach hate and intolerance toward non-Christians.
Why was he being interviewed by the FBI for two weeks prior and all of a sudden he's beheaded on camera?
I thought there was no Al-Qaeda link to Iraq.
And why is it that up until now, all Al-Qaeda could do was make a barely audible cassette recording that took months to get to Al-Jazeera and now they're posting WMV movie files on the Internet complete with a caption at the beginning?
And all of this occuring just days after the Abu Ghraib scandal broke.
I'd like to know who was really behing those masks. Anybody else smell a rat here?
The group of men responsible for the beheading of Berg, are the vile insidious islamists seen in the video committing the act. NOONE else. The recent pictures that surfaced concerning Iraqi prisoner abuse had nothing to do with this horrific act. There have been many other instances in which kidnapped soldiers/contractors have met with a similiar if not the same fate. The prison pics are just another excuse for islamists to attempt the destabilization of any authority beyond that of shariah law. They will commit any act in order to further their goals in the formation a worldwide islamic state. They attempt to justify something like this with talk of revenge for american abuse. Well guess what the have done this crap many times before so don't give me a line of bull about how the treatment of prisoners brought them to outright execution.
The group of men responsible for the beheading of Berg, are the vile insidious islamists seen in the video committing the act. NOONE else. The recent pictures that surfaced concerning Iraqi prisoner abuse had nothing to do with this horrific act. There have been many other instances in which kidnapped soldiers/contractors have met with a similiar if not the same fate. The prison pics are just another excuse for islamists to attempt the destabilization of any authority beyond that of shariah law. They will commit any act in order to further their goals in the formation a worldwide islamic state. They attempt to justify something like this with talk of revenge for american abuse. Well guess what the have done this crap many times before so don't give me a line of bull about how the treatment of prisoners brought them to outright execution.
The group of men responsible for the beheading of Berg, are the vile insidious islamists seen in the video committing the act. NOONE else. The recent pictures that surfaced concerning Iraqi prisoner abuse had nothing to do with this horrific act. There have been many other instances in which kidnapped soldiers/contractors have met with a similiar if not the same fate. The prison pics are just another excuse for islamists to attempt the destabilization of any authority beyond that of shariah law. They will commit any act in order to further their goals in the formation a worldwide islamic state. They attempt to justify something like this with talk of revenge for american abuse. Well guess what the have done this crap many times before so don't give me a line of bull about how the treatment of prisoners brought them to outright execution.
Sry about the multiple posting.
Sry about the multiple posting.
Sry about the multiple posting.
EXCELLENT point Stewie, do you think for one moment we will ever know? I doubt is, Bravo! for your comment, it certainly is food for thought. As for Jinn, I don't dislike you at all, I merely am expressing my rights as you are, to give my opinion regarding this matter and any other matter infact. You have decided to spew hate and mistruths, that is your decision, and it is most definitely your RIGHT to do so. Now, never mistakening my freedom of expression as being hateful in nature and/or towards any person or group. It is not in me to hate anyone, and it is most certainly not in me to hate a group of people for that actions of a few :) nice talking with you and setting the reccord straight Jinn ~ Arrivederci!
Why is he wearing a U.S. issue prisoner jumpsuit?
Did he escape U.S. custody and get picked up immediately by Al-Zarqawi's gang?
Something's just not adding up here.
Why is he wearing a U.S. issue prisoner jumpsuit?
Did he escape U.S. custody and get picked up immediately by Al-Zarqawi's gang?
Something's just not adding up here.
I totally agree with you Stewie, something sinks about that ORANGE jumpsuit he is wearing, American issued no doubt.
BBC:"It is not in me to hate anyone, and it is most certainly not in me to hate a group of people for that actions of a few" BBC: "Who ultimately is responsible for the gruesome execution of Mr. Berg?" Yet it sounds like you certainly have a vendetta against anybody other than the savages that cut (not a quick chop) this poor man's head off. Did you hear the audio of this? I suggest you do so and get off your conspiracy high horse. Maybe those butchers under the masks where the other shooters of JFK. They were never caught you know! Wasn't one of them LBJ's nephew?
Yes, the orange jump suit! I'm with ya'. While just last year a man in a Chicago Cubs cap robbed my mother. I know the Cub organization had something to do with that. Now I sure don't trust that basebakll team anymore. All of your "I don't hate anyone" but let me blame everyone ideals are very disappointing! Too bad to, cause I heard you have a nice booty!
The savages who did it. I hope the US captures them and excecutes them. I'd dance on there graves if I had the cash to fly over there. Evil gits.
by seon on Thu May 13, 04 9:12pm
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Lots of people are guilty.
1. The terrorists who did it.
2. The US soldiers who detained him, not allowing him to leave when it was safe.
3. Bush, for creating this damn war, it's a war for PEACE, like you said , NOT this shit...
Stewie: 'I'd like to know who was really behind those masks. Anybody else smell a rat here?'
Yes, I do. You raise some puzzling discrepancies, Stewie.
Hmmm...I *think* it's Al-Queda. I doubt it was Bush on that tape.
Mother fuckin Ted Kennedy and the alphabet left wing media are directly responsible for making such a big deal about the poor combatants at GRAB AN ARAB PRISON!
Most of all, we must check out the videotape carefully. He put on american jail-suit, and he never bleed when he was beheaded. is it possible? Negative. He surely was dead before he was beheaded and thost muslims who did that horrible thing must be CIA. This is all about the politics. Wake up, guys
You mean these hooded chaps cut off someone's head and there was no arterial gush? They should have got Tarantino to fake it.
All MUSILIM SCUM MUST DIE!
Arab linguists have said the man posing as the Jordanian Zaraqawi did not speak with a Jordanian dialect. Others have suggested the man reading the written statement may not have been a native speaker of Arabic.
Zaraqawi was missing one leg and had been outfitted with an artificial leg that did not fit or function properly. He was unable to walk or stand normally with his ill-fitting limb. No man in the group showed evidence of such an infirmity.
Numerous indigenous sources have said Zaraqawi was killed by a US helicopter attack months ago when he was unable to move quickly enough to escape the targeted house. While others managed to exit the house in time to survive, he died in the collapsed building.
As any surgeon will testify, the alleged beheading was a fake. A beheading would result in a tremendous amount of spurting blood. There would have been blood everywhere had an actual beheading taken place. When the executioner holds up Berg's head immediately following what is represented as an actual decapitation of a living person, there is no significant blood flow from the neck or blood splatters showing anywhere on the executioner. Furthermore, the cut was simply too neat to have been done crudely and with such amazing speed by a man wielding a knife. Anybody who has ever carved a turkey knows there is something wrong with the supposed beheading. The suspended head looks more like Berg had been neatly beheaded by a guillotine.
The orange jumpsuit was standard US military issue to men in custody. It is unlikely Berg would have continuing wearing a US custodial uniform if he had been released by the military as they claim. The fact he was still wearing the suit is both anomalous and suggestive. One is forced to speculate as to whether there was an immediate transfer of Berg from the US military to unknown persons, thusly preventing Berg from discarding his US prison garb.
Several of the men in the film were fat by Iraqi standards. If they were Feyadeen or mujahadeen, they probably have been living underground since the first days of the occupation. Tens of thousands of Iraqis have been shown on news stories as they have marched and demonstrated. One would be hard pressed to point out a single fat man among these thousands.
Some men had what can only be described as pasty-white hands. Once again, one would be hard pressed to find Arab men with pasty-white hands.
The lack of spurting blood suggests Berg was already dead at the time of the alleged decapitation. It is possible Berg's dead body was displayed with his head already partially or totally severed. In any case, he almost certainly was killed before the staged beheading. If so, it suggests the captors had no stomach for an actual beheading of a living person, and they opted to fulfill their assignment quietly and with the least amount of gore.
The scream that is heard has been interpreted as a woman's scream by many viewers. Videotape cognoscenti have further said the scream was amateurishly added to the tape.
The U.S. government translation of one statement made on the film is: "Does al Qaeda need any further excuses?" This is a falsification. The actual statement urged fellow insurgents to get off their hind ends and do something. One assumes the translator being used by the US military is a native speaker of Arabic, so this cannot be explained as an innocent flub. This suggests the US government wanted to inject an alleged al- Qaeda group into the murder of Nick Berg.
Iraqis who have seen the videotape on Arabic news broadcasts are universally saying the men in the film are not Iraqis. Are they saying this partly because the speaker does not employ an Iraqi dialect? Where does their certainty come from?
Firearms experts have stated the AK-47 carried by one man was a "Gilal." This actually is an Israeli-made weapon that improves on the famous AK- 47. Feyadeen and other insurgents almost universally use AK-47s.
The man in the videotape who is purported to be Zarqawi is wearing a gold ring. This is absolutely proscribed by Islamic law.
The US military has stated that Berg was never in US custody and that he had been in custody of the Iraqi police. The Iraqi police adamantly deny he was ever in their custody. On April 1, an e-mail from Beth A. Payne, the U.S. consular officer in Iraq, was sent to the family of Nick Berg. It stated that Ms. Payne had located Nick, and he was currently in custody of the US military. We have to conclude that either the email was bogus or the US military has been lying.
The chair that Berg was seated in during the filming was a standard issue military chair of the exact same kind as seen in a color photo taken at the Abu Ghraib Prison. The chances a terrorist cell would be using this same chair are minimal at best.
Here's some more nutball conspiracy theories for you to ponder:
When trying to tie Al Queda with Iraq, Colin Powell claimed that
Zarqawi was fitted with a prosthetic leg in a Baghdad hospital (which, at the
time, was touted as being a major indication of a connection between al-Qaeda
and Saddam Hussein).
Yet the killer in the video walks and moves around with both legs just fine.
The Berg video is a montage of two separate videos taken from two cameras. This
is apparent from the time in the lower right-hand corner, which changes as the
angle of the shot changes.
You will notice that Berg's head has been cut off at 13:47:49 (1:47) yet, at
2:44 nearly an hour later he is sitting with his head intact!
In the video shown all over the world, the man in the middle (wearing all black)
is the one who beheads Mr. Berg, but immediately when the head is held up,
suddenly it changes to the man in the white mask.
Hey Stewie, my man, you are on the ball on this one...excellent observation indeed, there does seem to be at least two separate video cameras involved. The executioner does move about quite well, I wonder if either colin powell got it wrong or this person is not whom it was reported that he is. Interesting points regarding the video once again Stewie. The brutality and gruesomeness of the tape distracts the viewers from noticing some of the flaws and questions regarding your personal observations. Interesting points and I can only hope that Mr. Berg's family not view this tape, the imaages are quite disturbing in its totality, how sad.
I am appaled that you put Pres. Bush as the first choice. there are risks in all forms of war and Mr. Berg understood that completely. Bush went in to Iraq off what his intelligence told him. his intelligence told him they had reason to belive there were WMD's in Iraq. So, it's not entirely his "fault." Anyway, Jinn is quite correct when he says this is Muslim brutality. Because it is true that in the third-world countries in the Eastern Hemisphere have a deep hatred for those not of their religion. I should know, because Christians get persecuted daily by such Muslims. So Jinn is corect when he implies Islamic Terrorism. Remember, the U.S. gov't WARNED Mr. Berg to get out, and he decided to stay, it was HIS decision to face the danger. In no way is the U.S. gov't responsible.(that is, is the death wasn't a conspiracy.)
What did the fool expect? You got an entire planet and he chooses to go to Iraq. Where was his next stop Afghanistan? Seriously some people need to get some common sense and have a bit of fear in order to protect themselves. There are just some places on this Earth that are off limits if you care about living.
TERRORists kill to inflict TERROR on the living. In my opinion they are succeeding in excatly what they set out to do.
Berg traveled alone, no interpreter no taxi no security. The U.S. offered him a flight out of Iraq to safety which he refused. You do the math.
Was Nick Berg a Solidear, no. Was Nick Berg a Threat, no. Was Nick Berg in any way an opposing force that could of brought down the Iraq's, no. He was murdered by thugs that hide behind a claim of god and they have lost all crediblity in dealing with the Americans and ruined there one high ground the moral high ground after the americans came out and talked about problems with there own POW's.
"Go ahead and believe in conspiracy theories if you want to. Part of the fun about them is that this country is one of the few places in the world where you can actually voice such preposterous indictments of government without fear of torture or consequence."
by Anonymous on May 26, 2004
True words well spoken "Anonymous".
Danny Casolaro called it "the Octopus". A vast, interlocking network of criminal conspiracy that reaches into every branch and agency of the U.S. government, many other national governments, and every sector of our societies.
An investigative reporter seeking the truth, Danny told his friends he was meeting an informant to "bring back the head of the Octopus" when his body was found in a hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia, on August 10, 1991. Much of the evidence he had gathered was missing. The death was ruled a "suicide", but the evidence supports murder. He never had the chance to write the book he was working on.
Chalk up another lie for Jinn the Liar. He even said that Anonymous' comment was "true". Ugh.
cretin_slap is correct
Those who dont understand that havent done any research and keep using the term "conspiracy theory"
The video is a hoax.There is no evidence this is Muslims and Muslims would not need to screw around.What muslim group claimed responsibility?
Those who think politicaians are merely politicians and dont think the CIA are not brutal murderers needs to have a conversation with the CIA and they'll tell you differently.But then I suppose the CIA are just "conspiracy theorists".You assholes can be frustrating, I'll give you that much
"Go ahead and believe in conspiracy theories if you want to. Part of the fun about them is that this country is one of the few places in the world where you can actually voice such preposterous indictments of government without fear of torture or consequence."
by Anonymous on May 26, 2004
Yes isnt it fun.Im having so much fun.
To Cretin & BMN, you two said a mouth full and your position regarding this matter was well stated. I seriously can not add nothing more except for Cretins statement to Jinn ~ Jinn, you really need to consider putting that pipe down ~ Arrivederci
It is the western nations that have created the nightmare in this world.They create the econimic conditions and put in place the evil regimes and they MAINTAIN them when the people organise to get rid of them.The democratic , glorious Pop culture West.
Go shove and it up your fucking ass.
The worlds comin to GETCHA
"I seriously can not add nothing more"
by Barbara_Baby_Cakes on May 27, 2004
Good English. A double negative...just like your brain!
Anyone one to pick up a copy of "The Twilight Of Democracy?" The author worked for the COA for 25 years
How about "Defrauding America"
Anyone out there want a good list of books to wipe your arse with?
*jesus,gotta start proof reading this typing**
"The intent of Defrauding America was to inform the American people of a pattern of extremely serious government corruption that has and is inflicting great harm upon America and upon individual Americans. I first became aware of government corruption while I was a federal inspector-investigator for the FAA, and saw the close relationship between air disasters and hard-core corruption occurring in my area of air safety responsibility. As I fought this problem over the past 30 years I became a confidant to a great number of former CIA and other deep-cover operatives who revealed to me government corruption beyond what I had discovered as a federal investigator. In Defrauding America I have tried to present evidence of this serious government corruption in such a way that the reader can understand and believe the extent of misconduct in government; how Americans have suffered as a result of it; why the public is unaware of what is being done to them; and encourage the reader to do something about it before it is too late. The book is very factual and heavily documented, and avoids any conspiracy theories. The reader is taken inside covert CIA companies and operations by those who headed or were involved in the secret activities. Several people have been killed who helped provide data for Defrauding America, and I have suffered severe retaliation as efforts were made to silence me "
I think it was O.J. Simpson behind the mask.
Run, Juice run!
"The intent of Defrauding America was to inform the American people of a pattern of extremely serious government corruption that has and is inflicting great harm upon America and upon individual Americans."
-Big Monkey Nuts-
The intent of publishing a book with a titilating title like "Defrauding America," is moving units to a gullible populace and getting ink in the left-wing media during an election year.
You have no proof. I do have a story for you though of a conspiracy theory that actually came true. A few years ago there was a guy who was cheif of security at Goldman Sachs, an investment banking corporation. In '93 he had to evacuate all 1000 employees from their offices after a bomb went off in the World Trade Center. No one was injured from the Goldman office. Spooked by the whole ordeal, the guy did some research on the Muslim group responsible, a little start-up organization called "Al Qaeda." After learning as much as he could about this organization he became convinced they would try to attack the U.S. again and he even thought they would try to take down the World Trade Center even after failing the first time. So he spouted off this gibberish to anyone who would listen and insisted to the corporate officers that they conduct disaster drills.
On 9/11, this guy saw to it that all but two of the 2000 people in the Goldman offices were evacuated. One guy had gone back for his laptop and the other guy who died was that security guard. I believe that conspiracy theory.
We live in a crazy, dangerous world. But it's as dangerous to ignore what really threatens your safety, in favor of entertaining some bullshit. Maybe you live in the suburbs or in the middle of somewhere and don't understand what's really at risk. I work in one of the ten largest buildings in the country. I don't have the luxury to assume that Al Qaeda won't come back.
i try and refute as much conspiracy theory crap as possible.Most of what surrounds 9/11 is ridiculous and I dont know how they make it up.But so far there is stuff that hasnt been refuted and stands out very clearly.
The biggest nutballs I know of are those who believe what the corporate media and government say and keep saying "conspiracy theory" all the time.Claiming that those in government did something isnt a fucking conspiracy theory no more than if you said the mafia shot someone.Conformists need their heads examined
"You have no proof" says supposable thumbs Has this person read the damn book?
Because os satan, we have to see innocent blood shed. satan, your time is running out. Our Lord Jesus is coming for you and you will be bound and cast into the Eternal Punishment the Lord has prepared for you and the demons.
That would be nice NHB
Except that Satan was the good guy.You are talking of Objectified Dualism and that is not what Jesus taught
The church and all christian cults have turned everyone and everything into symbiotic devils and is totally destructive
Bush is responsible. Is there any doubt?
Bill Cosby will kill all!
the us
Q: Where did Nick Berg work for a time?
A: Abu Ghraib prison, where his dead corpse was beheaded by Muslim extremists who just happened to speak English and wear wedding rings.
Just in the nick of time, as the crusaders were going into meltdown over the outrage of the sexual perversions and torture photos of iraqi prisoners being released into the semiosphere , the word came down from up top , We need a distraction , an atrocity , an outrage and we need it NOW!
It's the classic CIA, Black Op it appears that The CIA arranged for some of their Iraqi musclemen ( most likely Ahmed Chalabi ) to cut off the head of what appears to be an American intelligence agent cutout for a staged atrocity , made to order.
It looks like a Sheep dip operation. Berg is an Oswald. A patsy. A made to order, fall guy. A sleeper, waiting to be activated , this time as a sacrificial lamb to distract the comatose masses as they sit there and say , Take my rights but protect my precious flesh.
Questions are swirling around the very suspicious activities of the CIA in the hours preceding the beheading of the 26 year old American.
There is also the question of the alarming , coincidental , connection to Moussaoui.
The murdered man's father is coming out with a scathing attack on Bush claiming it's Bush who is behind the death of his kid.
And the message gets transmitted at different levels to different groups.
1) For the gullible non thinkers sheep they get the brunt of the horror and nothing more. For their brains are so profoundly stunted by the continuous Psy-op and the alpha state induced conditioning from the television. In the alpha state you forget about the coffins and rape . And now you react exactly in the pre-planned way and say, See, Raping and torture is much better than Beheading, see, we're the good guys cause we only rape and torture, not like those evil terrorists who cut off people's heads... duh
2) But to the thinking people, the people who are aware and awake the message is loud and clear: We can kill you at will. Anytime - anywhere. You'll be the next one in the orange smock.
3) Also the message to the antiwar movement ( Berg's dad was supposedly Anti war) is: Watch out! We're offing civilians now too. (Although don't believe for one second that he was just a civilian. He's got Agency Patsy written all over his decapitated body.)
4) Apparently what the Freepers did was to get a list of anti war movement people and publicize it and create a hit list in essence and this kid's name was on the freepers list and he goes over there and get's picked up by US forces who later deny they detained him.
5) The Message is: Stuff happens to anti war people.
It's the softening up and desensitization of the human mind.
Gun's present in frame: Israeli Ak47 and a Mac 9MM
White plastic lawn chair identical is the same as in Abu Gharib prison torture and sexual assault photos.
Raising the threat level for those who can see it.
For those who can see what is real
prometheus (kid's company name)
The Neo Cons are bringing the terror to a new level.
They would of course have Chalabi's boys do the act.
It's got EVERY SINGLE HALLMARK OF A CIA BLACK OP JOB
1) It's got the bogus near certain identification of the hooded executioner as being Al-Zarqawi within minutes. A feat literally impossible for the CIA to do.
2) There was No Blood spurting from neck. Experts (Except the CIA Ex-spurts) noticed the obvious lack of blood spurting from any neck artery which should accompany a beheading - There was none. (Major media fails to mention this obvious fact)
3) Looks like the same director who did the previous phony Bin Laden Video with the admittedly fake Bin Laden.
4) It's surfacing that Berg worked at the Abu Ghraib prison????? WTF!!!
5) There is a Link to Moussaoui. Moussaoui emailed something from this kid's laptop. The FBI says: Nothing to see here, move along. And the media doesn't dare talk too much about it. And they are going to try to tell the American people, Oh it's just a coincidence that the so called 20th hijacker just COINCIDENTALLY emailed from this kid's laptop before 911. And the people who's minds have been so sadly destroyed by the effects and dumbing down of the Television, will accept that it just must have been a coincidence. (The thinking is: If it's got the swirling graphics and ominous theme music and read by some blond bimbo on CNN, we can feed these mental midgets anything, no matter how ridiculous - they'll believe anything.)
6) Berg has a mysterious Israeli passport stamp.
7) Berg has sensitive electronic equipment on his person that he has no paperwork for.
8) Berg travels the world helping the disadvantaged? Huh? What? Big Hmmmm on that one.
9) And just exactly what is a jew doing as a freelancer in the apocalyptic war torn Jew hating Iraq? Does he have a death wish? Is he mentally retarded? Nope, He's a US government agent - albeit a patsyesque one.
10) Bergs father smells a rat - he thinks it's the US Gov who killed his son - and not abstractly so either.
These are the working notes of this atrocity, look for updates as this story develops
Berg was absolutely positively murdered by the shadow operators of the US Government. It's in your face. It's a very dangerous time for the human race.
Get in their face
Dont have a shred of fear
Don't give in an inch to their Nazi tactics
Get off your knees
Open your mind
Wake up
THE KILLERS...
THE CIA OR ELSE ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...I CAN'T TELL- THEY WERE WEARING SKI MASKS.
IT IS REALLY HOT IN IRAQ, WHERE DO THEY SELL SKI MASKS?
how is it that 118 people blamed george bush for an execution made by an islamic extremist? "Your ballot proves that you are the type that likes to blame someone else for your actions. I suppose if somebody killed your spouse with a butcher knife, you would rather go after the knife manufacturer than the bastard that sliced through your spouses neck til he screamed his last breath? And I contest that your ballot should even be catagorized as 'serious'!". I completely agree with what he said.
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