ATHEISTS ONLY-WAR AND HELL

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ATHEISTS ONLY-WAR AND HELL


[+] ballot by eccentricities
created Fri May 28, 04

War is hell. I do not believe in hell, therefore I do not believe in war. Any other atheists who feel this way?

Yes, I feel this way exactly
No, war is good

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COMMENTS:
Look, I'm trying to say something important here, all right?
by eccentricities on Fri May 28, 04 3:02pm [+]

I think the only war worth fighting is against the mutant scum who create the whole Babylonian "matrix" system.Everything about the industrial system is a surreal nightmare.War is hell and the matrix is hell
by bigmonkeynuts on Fri May 28, 04 3:31pm [+]

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
by bigmonkeynuts on Fri May 28, 04 3:34pm [+]

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super - Nationalistic- Capitalism.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.
by bigmonkeynuts on Fri May 28, 04 3:37pm [+]

I have to concur with much of Moneynuts remarks. I become very dismayed when I hear so many Yahoos waving a flag and using it to wage war on other nations or to enforce a view that is abhorrant to many nations.

I also was a member of the armed forces, and although we had a few 'lets go kill em' types, they soon realise when they kill their first human being, that all that goes out of the window.

War is brutal, dirty and very bloody. When you are wounded it isnt like the movies, where the hero says 'its nothing' and continues to fight. Being wounded hurts like a bleeder. Imagine someone stabbing you with a red hot poker, then perhaps you may get an idea.

By all means defend your community from attack, this is a natural response. I dont agree with the lax gun control laws they have in the US, how can anyone justify needing an assault rifle? The argument 'criminals have them so we should too' is a circular argument. Most guns that fall into criminal hands, were privately owned. If a criminal has a gun, they are far more ready to use it than Joe Citizen.

But this is off the subject and possibly the subject of a different poll.

On a personal note, I truly believe imaginary borders are irrelevant. How can the planet be 'owned'? I want to be able to free move across it without silly prejudices.
by Steelhamster on Sun May 30, 04 8:40pm [+]

"On a personal note, I truly believe imaginary borders are irrelevant. How can the planet be 'owned'? I want to be able to free move across it without silly prejudices. "

exactly.i didnt want to edit the transcript.
But its true that the planet has been turned into the perception that economists and militarists have of it.Are we all just poker chips and commodities?To patent the sky, trees and molecules.The way they talk about drafting people, about people having no choice and not being able to get away but done with the usual pathological parental/cop/ school teacher moralism and criminalising is stunning.They are doing it again now and SURELY all hell will finally break loose.All borders WILL be dismantled, there is no question
by bigmonkeynuts on Mon May 31, 04 7:43pm [+]

Vive La Revolution!
by Steelhamster on Tue Jun 01, 04 4:27am [+]

Hell is here on Earth
by x__ on Wed Jun 02, 04 8:19am [+]

um...some of us don't like war, you know
by Kukini on Wed Jul 14, 04 3:20am [+]






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