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It was actually "Operation Iraqi Freedom," but I like your way better.
oh yeah
I still like the original name: Operation Iraqi Liberation. Unfortunately, some sharp-eyed Whitehouse staffer picked up on the acronym.
hmm, doesnt seem a catchey
by ABC on Wed Jun 30, 04 2:03pm
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Guest: Who are the innocents being killed? surely you jest. If not, I shall remain silent ... I cannot debate an unarmed man.
STOP MAKING BALLOTS, couch! These questions are old and outdated! Wait til the election is over!
you can't stop the truth
If it's a war for oil than why are gas prices so high?
things haven't gone quite as planned
by mojo on Wed Jun 30, 04 2:54pm
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Damn, well said smarternyou.
And it was a WAR, people do die but nearly all "innocent" deaths are attributable to followers of terrorist clerics, al-quaida cells or saddam loyalists.
You forgot wedding guests, children and people minding their own business. Something the American and British governments don't seem to be able to do.
I think couch is probably one of the few who choose to know the truth not what the news tell you.
cough has balls to say the truth, not some version of propaganda that the administration has made for mindless consumption
Put it this way, if Bush really wanted oil so badly he could have "gone against he amerians" in another way and just drained Alaska. There are other reasons behind this war.
No, you've got this all wrong.
Over 10,000 civilians have died. They were not in militias. In Afghanistan over 5,000 civilians were killed by American bombs. anonymous seems to be living on a different planet.
You seem to have forgotten that Saddam killed thousands of his own people with mustard gas. And what of the mass graves found?
Of course innocent people will die. Millions more civilians died in WWII, and that war was surely justifiable.
Yes, let's go for Truth in Advertising!
If it's a war for oil than why are gas prices so high?
by doen5167 on Jun 30, 2004
Because the USA and UK fucked up.
No, I'm just more concerned with the 3000 innocent americans killed 9/11 as well as those who could be killed in the future if we don't wipe out all islamic fundamentalist terrorists.
by anonymous on Aug 17, 2004
You're nuts!
You seem to have forgotten that Saddam killed thousands of his own people with mustard gas. And what of the mass graves found?
by Dragonman657 on Aug 24, 2004
Factoid#1 The Kurds were killed by Iranian mustard gas, not by Iraq or Saddam Hussein. This has always been the truth, but the USA and UK govts decided to distort it for propaganda purposes to demonize Saddam Hussein during preparations for the First Gulf War.
Factoid#2 Mass graves are leftovers from the Iran-Iraq War, and the Iranians say that most of those bodies were of Iranian soldiers.
Of course innocent people will die. Millions more civilians died in WWII, and that war was surely justifiable.
by danny_mack on Sep 16, 2004
That doesn't excuse the USA and UK for being the aggressor states, illegal invasion, and lying to the UNSC and their own people. WW2 may have been justifiable, but the invasion of Iraq was not, and that the USA and UK had to lie and are still lying so much, shows that the war is not just.
Put it this way, if Bush really wanted oil so badly he could have "gone against he amerians" in another way and just drained Alaska. There are other reasons behind this war.
by emilyknotz on Jul 24, 2004
Yep, profit margins, share prices, dividends, and Israel. As well as strategic oncerns like trying to dominate the middle east oil production.
since when did shiite militias constitute "innocents"?
by anonymous on Aug 17, 2004
Since when did wedding parties, school children, old men and women, families, and peaceful protestors constitute ENEMIES TO BE KILLED? US military seems to hanitually kill civilians in every war. They don't seem to give a flying fuck either about many young american men get sent to the meat grinder to lose their limbs, eyes, and often their lives for the power of the wealthy elite. Why isn't GW Bush or his kids out fighting in the hot sun of Iraq armed with an M16 and being shot at and bombed? They want the place so much, they should go there and fight for it themselves instead of sending the poor whites and blacks of America to fight for them.
who are the "innocents" being killed, other than U.S. troops killed by followers of muslim terrorists.
by Guest_d6118 on Jun 30, 2004
13,000 to 30,000 civilians so far. Are you really, really dumb, or just a coldblooded asshole Bush apologist?
if they wanted oil they didn't need to go to war, they could've lifted the embargo and bought it cheap.
And it was a WAR, people do die but nearly all "innocent" deaths are attributable to followers of terrorist clerics, al-quaida cells or saddam loyalists.
And if Cathexis were smart she'd know the phrase is "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man." Guess she's the unarmed one.
by smarternyou on Jun 30, 2004
Yes, they wanted the oil, They wanted to CONTROL IT. Not just buy it.
If they lifted the sanctions, the Iraqis would've been able to rearm so they could defend themselves from the uSA and UK properly.
It was an unnecessary and ILLEGAL WAR according the the UN, and most other international laws regarding warfare.
Those first 10,000 deaths of innocent civilians are directly attributable to USA and UK bombs. People killed at peaceful protests by American soldiers, and people killed by American snipers in Fallujah; most of them were civilians too. That wedding party near the Syrian border for example. One incident among many. I have an awfully big file on these incidents, do you want to bring them here?
# American F-16 and F-18 fighter bombers as well as Apache helicopters carried out continuous and hysterical bombing from 3:30am until 5:00am local time Friday morning of the Ridwaniyat Zawbi area in the village of Zaydan, 20km south of al-Fallujah. The area is home to members of the Zawbi tribe. The local correspondent of Mafkarat al-Islam reported that the American aircraft dumped more than 14 massive anti-personnel container bombs as well as napalm on the rural community. Each container bomb consists of about 2,000 bomblets that blast apart near the ground to kill any and all living things.
Forty-four Iraqi civilians were massacred in the savage American bombing at last count, but the figure was expected to rise considerably in view of the massive scale of the damage inflicted on the little village. Of those, 15 of the dead were children, 10 women, and nine were elderly persons. Seven children are in critical condition, and eight women and five men were also wounded.
# FALLUJAH, Iraq (AP) U.S. troops opened fire on a truck carrying live chickens near the tense town of Fallujah, killing five civilians aboard the vehicle, including a father and his two sons, relatives said today. "They went to bring chickens ... and they came back at 9 or 10 at night," said Khalid Khalifa al-Jumaily, whose two nephews were killed on the truck. "The Americans fired on them."
# The brother of two teenage girls told Iraqi police that US troops at Ibn Firnas airport, 7km (4 miles) from Baquba, shot Fatima and Azra, 15 and 12, on Thursday at midday as they were collecting wood from a field some 30m away. "Azra died on the spot and my other sister later died from her wounds," said 18-year-old Qusay.
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